Are you guys happy with the recent Iran agreement ending the war?

[Marymog]

Hey, I had a crazy thought. ....

Finally, we agree on something!

 

[Luther7]

What does Isreal buying weapons from the US (creating American jobs) have anything to do with genocide and raping our finances?

Isreal is giving the U.S. money for a product and creating jobs. How is that "raping our finances"? That makes no sense...........

Sooooo back to your 'genocide' and raping of our finance's theory: Where is your evidence?

Patient Mary

Technically, Israel buys weapons from the United States, but the vast majority of those purchases are made using free grant money provided by U.S. taxpayers.

The financial relationship operates through a specific cycle that functions as an economic loop:
1. The U.S. Gives Israel Financial AidUnder a 10-year agreement running from 2019 to 2028, the U.S. gives Israel $3.8 billion annually in military assistance. This money is allocated primarily through the State Department's Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program.
2. Israel Must Spend That Money on U.S. WeaponsThe FMF funding is not a blank check. By law, Israel is required to return that money directly to the U.S. by purchasing weapons, vehicles, and ammunition from American defense contractors like Lockheed Martin and Boeing.

What a deal!

 

[Luther7]

Iran has been behind the terror committed throughout the world. Ever since the Khamenei regime has taken over. It began by attacking its own people and surrounding Ara nations trying to force an Islamist revolution. It aligned with the PLO and Iran has allied and funded several anti-Israeli Islamist militant groups since.[302].

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution

In fact Iran was the second Arab nation to accept Isreal as a nation soon after it was declared a nation in 1948. It has been since the Khamenei regime has taken over by force that it has narrowed its politics and ideology with radical Islam.

Since then we have seen this radical ideology spread and inflict terror on the world with its various Islamist groups such as the Taliban, al-Qaeda, the Islamic State (ISIS), al-Shabaab, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, and Hamas as the latest.

This evil aim to wipe Isreal off the face of the earth and western Christians by extenstion is the ideology. Its not about making peace in this world and accepting that others have a different belief. Its about imposing Islam on all. A holy war.

In some ways we can relate this to the western church in the middle ages trying to install a theocracy. Radical Islam is a modern theocracy being forced on Iran and the world.

An interesting aspect is that when this ideology began it was mixed with Marxist, socialist and communist ideas. Which fuled the revolution at first. But then it became religious and the centralised control of marxist ideas became the centralised control of religious fundementalism in radical Islam.

Please. Let's give credit where credit is due. Communism, Marxism and socialism are jewish inventions, patterned after judaism.

 

[Marymog]

Technically, Israel buys weapons from the United States, but the vast majority of those purchases are made using free grant money provided by U.S. taxpayers.

The financial relationship operates through a specific cycle that functions as an economic loop:
1. The U.S. Gives Israel Financial AidUnder a 10-year agreement running from 2019 to 2028, the U.S. gives Israel $3.8 billion annually in military assistance. This money is allocated primarily through the State Department's Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program.
2. Israel Must Spend That Money on U.S. WeaponsThe FMF funding is not a blank check. By law, Israel is required to return that money directly to the U.S. by purchasing weapons, vehicles, and ammunition from American defense contractors like Lockheed Martin and Boeing.

What a deal!

Thank you. I did not know about that program with Isreal AND Jordan AND Pakistan AND Philippines AND Ukraine AND Poland.........But I digress.

Sooooo back to your 'genocide' and raping of our finance's theory: Where is your evidence?

 

[Luther7]

Thank you. I did not know about that program with Isreal AND Jordan AND Pakistan AND Philippines AND Ukraine AND Poland.........But I digress.

Sooooo back to your 'genocide' and raping of our finance's theory: Where is your evidence?

Anyone can see what Israel has done to it's neighbors especially Gaza. Genocide. I'm not the only one who calls it that. And there is a tremendous amount of information out there. Especially concerning Israel's demon possessed military. It won't take long for you to find your evidence.

 

[Marymog]

Anyone can see what Israel has done to it's neighbors especially Gaza. Genocide. I'm not the only one who calls it that. And there is a tremendous amount of information out there. Especially concerning Israel's demon possessed military. It won't take long for you to find your evidence.

OK.......Thanks Luther. Over your last several post's I have figured you out and it's not pretty. It's easy to critique any countries leadership or military because they all make mistakes and there are some bad people in them. There are more good people in them also. That doesn't mean the entire country or its people are bad. One can provide legitimate evidence and thoughtful criticism without having to say some the asinine and inarticulate things you are saying. I see your heart.

What are some of the good things Isreal and the Jewish people bring to this world?

Curious Mary

PS: I have this deep-down feeling in my gut you won't answer......

 

[Grailhunter]

Please. Let's give credit where credit is due. Communism, Marxism and socialism are jewish inventions, patterned after judaism.

Technically Judaism cannot be Communist, Marxist or Socialist, it is categorically incorrect.

Isreal is a form of theocracy except they have Prime Ministers instead of King.
A theocracy is a form of government in which political authority is derived from a religious source, and the state is run according to religious principles or laws. In a theocracy, leaders are often members of the clergy or are regarded as divinely guided, and the legal system is typically based on religious law. The government may claim to rule by divine authority, and human laws are subordinate to religious mandates.

Categorically Isreal is a Parliamentary Democracy.

Following an election, the president nominates a member of the Knesset to become prime minister after asking party leaders whom they support for the position. The first candidate the president nominates has 28 days to form a viable government that can command a majority in the Knesset. He then presents a government platform and must receive a vote of confidence from the Knesset to take office. In practice, the prime minister is usually the leader of the largest party in the governing coalition.

Sometimes Christians misunderstand Isreal's tactics in war. Their tactics are modeled after the Old Testament.
Yahweh gave "The Promise Land" to the Israelites. No one on earth can say God gave us our land. The United States supported Israel during the 6 day war to take back Isreal.
Isreal tactics in war are modeled after the Old Testament. Kill all that breaths. Deuteronomy 20:16 and Numbers 31:17 The thinking being is that if you destroy a nation, you only have to fight them once.

This differs from the United States where we have tendency to win the war and rebuild our enemy's nation so at times we fight the same people over and over and over again. Which can be difficult with terrorist nations where their armies hide with families and launch missiles from school yards and hospitals.

 

[Luther7]

OK.......Thanks Luther. Over your last several post's I have figured you out and it's not pretty. It's easy to critique any countries leadership or military because they all make mistakes and there are some bad people in them. There are more good people in them also. That doesn't mean the entire country or its people are bad. One can provide legitimate evidence and thoughtful criticism without having to say some the asinine and inarticulate things you are saying. I see your heart.

What are some of the good things Isreal and the Jewish people bring to this world?

Curious Mary

PS: I have this deep-down feeling in my gut you won't answer......

Not true. The most fascinating people on earth are jews. I've done some decent research over the last 4 years when a brother in the Lord explained to me who these people really are and all of the atrocities that have been committed by them.I was in shock. I vowed never to lay everything down at once to someone. You could go into shock. Or like most people, they ignore everything they've heard... angrily.

So Mary I am going to give you a synopsis. There is so much to find out. There are two very popular sayings out there which most people might never consider or ponder:

1) If you want to know who rules over you, find out or learn who you cannot criticize.

2) EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

When something is said in a critical way about jews, our first reaction is to defend these people and consider them innocent victims that had lost their way with God but will be restored to a new kingdom just because they're jews.

Well Mary, they are jews in name only. There are no true descendants from ancient Israel alive today. That's an impossibility when you consider all of the mixing with other nations which goes all the way back to the time of Moses. It's just impossible. And even if there was a trace of Hebrew DNA found in them, to what significance is it? It means nothing to God. He is looking at our faith now, not who we are.
Also, any evidence or records of ancestry were all destroyed in the temple when Israel was destined 70AD, never to become a nation again. That's what the Bible stresses over and over again. If those genealogies were that important I would assume that God would preserve them.

The greatest deception of all is being under the spell that Israel 1948 is a fulfillment of prophecy, blessed by God. Neither are true. God knew that these people would manipulate other countries and political relationships to acquire that land, but it certainly did have His blessing. The prophecy is all about the spiritual seed of Abraham ( which is Christ ) inheriting the land (heaven) forever. That's what the Old Testament prophecies point us to.

These people are not " jews". You have to start there or you will forever be spellbound in this fantasy doctrine of a future kingdom which the rabbis in the last 150 years indoctrinated the churches with.
Remember, In scripture Satan will be given a short lived opportunity to rule as God. Throughout history he needed a dedicated group of people to prepare the world for this final event. With the development of judaism, the plan to accommodate his last days kingdom began to take shape.

The Pharisees represented the spiritual leadership of Israel. They taught from the oral teachings of the Babylonian talmud, which perverts the scriptures. Eventually after rejecting Christ and crucifying Him ( God incarnate), they went on to complete this Babylonian religion in its written form, approximately by 200- 500 AD. During this time in history, the Pharisees (now called " rabbis") and faithful followers of this new religion (judaism) were bringing it into other nations.

[ We must keep in mind that Israel is Symbolically the body of Christ. And those Jews that believed on Jesus at that time became CHRISTIANS. they now belong to the "ISRAEL OF GOD", as anyone who believes in Jesus. So yes, there are some Jews today who reject judaism and even some of them will become saved. And they no longer fuss over their "heritage" and " traditions" but are now focused on the ONE who fulfilled those shadows of things to come. AMEN. ]

Eastern Europe was literally the birthplace of the jews of today. Most of these converts are arguably descendants of Ashkenaz, the Grandson of Japeth, A son of Noah. This I truly believe is the " unofficial" reason why 80% of jews today are called " Ashkenazi" jews. They call themselves " jews" (descendants of Shem),
but are not. They are not from the 12 tribes from the offspring of Shem ( where we get the word " semite"). It's so funny that they practically criminalize someone for showing "signs" of " anti- semitism" and they aren't even semites themselves.

To answer your questions,
1) Jews as a nation of people are cursed without Christ and have sadly, sadly followed their teachers in doctrines that reject the one true God. And I must say they do not have a favorable view of everyone else ( Goyim) in this world.
2) Jews individually, from any aspect of their religious or political views CAN BE SAVED. That's the good news.
3) But I must be honest with you. The ones who are working for Satan ( along with the non- jews who answer to them), the ones with the immense wealth and power have literally been the reason why this world has seen so many atrocities and so much suffering. They are the "supremecists ", who really can't be stopped.

Only Jesus Christ can do that. We must warn others while patiently waiting for our Lord's Return.

Thank you and God bless you.

 

[Boaz1982]

The Kurds have been wanting to go in on the ground and topple the murderous regime and we should arm them and provide air support as they go in and take over Iran

The Kurds have helped the US quite a bit in the Iraq war as well as in Afghanistan. They are friendly to the US and do not have the de3moinic mantra to destroy Israel so now is the time to help the Kurds topple the current regime in Iran.

If there is not regime change in Iran, then nothing will change and all this will have been for nothing.

Hopefully Trump has the manhood to finish the job. We'll see if he's a real man or if he's a sissy like all the liberals.

Well, I'm not so sure. Remember, he never served in the military, he is not a veteran, he was a New York businessman for most of his life, he has little personal in depth grasp of long term military strategy, I think, he follows his advisers a lot. But even his advisers, Vance and Rubio, give him different ideas and suggestions sometimes.

My stance on this war is this:
Either end the Iranian regime immediately
OR
End the war itself immediately.

I don't like this weird grey area zone in-between, on and off war and no war, going from bombing the Iranians to negotating with them/giving them millions of dollars, then attacking them again, week after after week.