n2thelight said:
All I can say is,why don't have a soul,we are a soul,we have a body....The flesh is just for this age...We were created like the angels,what kind of body do they have?
What kind of body did Christ have before being born of woman,or do you think He was just some glob of energy?
n2,
There is a fair amount of your creative speculation here. I note that you included no Scripture to demonstrate your points.
There was only one time when Jesus had a body and that was when he was born to the virgin Mary and became flesh until his ascension. How do we know that? The Bible tells us so: 'And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth' (John 1:14 ESV). The only time Jesus, the Son, had a body of flesh was during his Incarnation.
As for the rest of humanity, a human being has an inner, immaterial dimension and an outer, material dimension. The inner dimension is often called “soul” or “spirit” and the outer dimension is usually called body.
Often in the Bible, the term, “soul,” is used to refer to more than the spiritual dimension of a human being and sometimes even includes the body (e.g. Gen. 2:7; Psalm 16:10).
However, the Bible presents examples of the soul being distinguished from the body as in Gen. 35:18 (ESV): “And as her [Rachel’s] soul was departing (for she was dying), she called his name Ben-oni; but his father called him Benjamin” .
In I Thess. 5:23 the soul is noted as different from the body: “Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ”.
Rev. 6:9 (ESV) indicates that souls are totally separated from the bodies for the saints: “When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne”.
So, the “soul” means “life” as the principle of life in a human being. It is what animates the body of a human being. In fact, the word “soul” can sometimes refer to a dead body as in Lev. 19:28; 21:1; 23:4 in a way similar to the contemporary expression, “that poor soul.” However, the primary meaning of “soul” is probably best stated as meaning “person” which is usually in a body but is sometimes in a disembodied state.
Therefore, with this kind of understanding, it makes sense to state: “Behold, all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul who sins shall die” (Ezek. 18:4 ESV). It fits in with the biblical data, so long as we understand that this fits with “under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God” (Rev. 6:9). “Souls” are not extinguished at physical death (from my article,
What is the nature of death according to the Bible?)
Oz