Do you looking forward for the Lord Jesus return ?

[101G]

The Father of that child is the same Father that sent the Holy Spirit to begin with

let me get that Holy jeopardy buzzer out once MORE BUZZZZZZZZZZ, error better known as a L?e.
see you're still carnal, that's why I asked that. now the best way to teach an old dog new tricks is to let them answer for themselves, by the scriptures. now you said this, Dcopymope,

Are you trying to say the Father sent himself?

I'm going to let you answer your own self, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace". now Dcopymope, this son, this child is he not the "everlasting FATHER" yes or no... (smile).

Now I'm going to give you some insight, you're hung up on titles and applying them to Persons. so Dcopymope is that "CHILD" that "SON" the everlasting FATHER, yes or no, I'll be waiting for your answer.

 

[Dcopymope]

let me get that Holy jeopardy buzzer out once MORE BUZZZZZZZZZZ, error better known as a L?e.
see you're still carnal, that's why I asked that. now the best way to teach an old dog new tricks is to let them answer for themselves, by the scriptures. now you said this, Dcopymope,

I'm going to let you answer your own self, Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace". now Dcopymope, this son, this child is he not the "everlasting FATHER" yes or no... (smile).

Now I'm going to give you some insight, you're hung up on titles and applying them to Persons. so Dcopymope is that "CHILD" that "SON" the everlasting FATHER, yes or no, I'll be waiting for your answer.

Once again:

(John 10:30) "I and my Father are one."

If they are described as one, yet clearly separate persons, then yes, the answer is he is both. Does this in any prove your everywhere present, new age blob deity? NO.

 

[101G]

Once again:



If they are described as one, yet clearly separate persons, then yes, the answer is he is both. Does this in any prove your everywhere present, new age blob deity? NO.

LOL, let me get that Holy jeopardy buzzer out yet the third time BUZZZZZZZZZZ, error better known as a L?e.

now you get to person, GREAT, Revelation 1:4 "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood".

Dcopymope, is this three PERSON or ONE person. in verse 4 the blue highlight is a person? and you have the seven Spirits, and you have the Lord Jesus Christ. so, is this three "separate" person or two "separate" persons or ONE PERSON, your answer please.

 

[ScottA]

Scott, while you're waiting for your answer from Dcopymope, I would like to put somthing on the floor about Christ location also, anyone can answer it. Scripture, 1 Corinthians 10:2 "And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ”. in location, was Christ the ROCK, the Lord Jesus in the O.T. with flesh, bone, and blood yes or No?.

Not with flesh, bone, and blood, no.

 

[ScottA]

Already answered that multiple times. The Jesus Christ I know of from the Bible is at the right hand of the Father in heaven. At no point does it say he can exist apart from himself at any given time. You gonna ask the same question again?

My question was rhetorical and a given, so that you might see the obvious. But still you evaded.

 

[101G]

so, my next question is was Christ in the O.T. if so, HOW?

 

[Dcopymope]

so, my next question is was Christ in the O.T. if so, HOW?

:) Sorry for the somewhat late reply, I was too busy watching Little Finger finally get his throat slit.

(John 1:1-5) "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. {2} The same was in the beginning with God. {3} All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. {4} In him was life; and the life was the light of men. {5} And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."

In other words, who we know of as Jesus was known as the word from the beginning, and the word not only was God, being the Father as its source, but was also WITH God the Father being separate yet one....and that "word" became flesh as the Son, who, from looking at the example of the book of Daniel when the pre-incarnate Son of God manifested in the fiery furnace, always was the SON. When God, the Father said "let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness", he wasn't referring to himself as the person, as if he had some imaginary friend from the beginning, he was referring to the other part of the God Head. If Jesus Christ really was God the Father as you understand it, then he wouldn't have to have any power given to him in heaven and earth. God the Father isn't given anything, because he always was the alpha and omega, all powerful, all knowing, etc.

(Matthew 28:16-20) "¶ Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. {17} And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. {18} And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. {19} ¶ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: {20} Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

Does the Father being the source of the holy spirit that conceived his only son in the flesh need to be given any power? This makes your interpretation of the heavenly order of things more than simply an oxymoron.

 

[101G]

no apology necessary.

In other words, who we know of as Jesus was known as the word from the beginning, and the word not only was God, being the Father as its source, but was also WITH God the Father being separate yet one

"separate yet one". let's see, Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth". is this one person? yes or no

 

[Dcopymope]

no apology necessary.

"separate yet one". let's see, Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth". is this one person? yes or no

Look pal, John makes it very clear that "in the beginning", it was not one person. The old testament is the new testament concealed, and the new testament is the old revealed. Jesus Christ was the word, or the son of the eternal God Head to start with, who created all things, and sustains all things, visible and invisible. Why is this so hard to understand? If an unbelieving bible scoffer were to give you the light of day, you better start making some sense, because I'm sure said person can cite scripture as good anyone on here, if not better, just like the devil himself.

 

[101G]

Listen pal, John makes it very clear that "in the beginning", it was not one person. The old testament is the new testament concealed, and the new testament is the old revealed. Jesus Christ was the word, or the son of the eternal God Head to start with, who created all things, and sustains all things, visible and invisible. Why is this so hard to understand?

"Listen pal, John makes it very clear that "in the beginning", it was not one person". scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself". here alone, and by myself is ONE PERSON. so what you said is a L?E. now try again, is God here one Person, Genesis 1:1... (smile).

 

[Dcopymope]

"Listen pal, John makes it very clear that "in the beginning", it was not one person". scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself". here alone, and by myself is ONE PERSON. so what you said is a L?E. now try again, is God here one Person, Genesis 1:1... (smile).

By himself as the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, separate, yet one. Nowhere does it say "ONE PERSON" pal, that is your own addition to scripture, and I'm sure you know of the prophecy of what happens to those who add unto the words written in the book, its not a happy ending. It always was and always will be three in one. Try again, or don't and accept the truth. :)

 

[101G]

Nowhere does it say "ONE PERSON"

Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself". so Dcopymope do "I" indicate ONE PERSON? yes. and do "he" indicate ONE PERSON yes. see, it's ashamed to have such ignorance on display. you have never answered any of the question put forth, and when you do it wrong. scripture, 2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth". now don't reply, just go back to all my post that i asked you question about that you evaded, or didn't just answer, which is all of them except the one you got wrong. you have no clue as to who the Godhead is, not IN, but is. so I will end my conversation with you, because you are still carnal and have no KNOWLEDGE of the things of God. and vain babbling leads to ungodliness.

Lastly, you try speaking of prophecy? LOL, LOL... I rest in Revelation 22:11, read it. so in your words, "see ya pal" .

PS when you get some knowledge, then come back and ask some descent question. just keep in mind my motto below.

 

[Job]

IF that is what you believe...I don't!
There must be first the Day of Judgement before any distruction that you speak about.

Explain the Day of Judgement. What happens on that day?

o

 

[Dcopymope]

Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself". so Dcopymope do "I" indicate ONE PERSON? yes. and do "he" indicate ONE PERSON yes. see, it's ashamed to have such ignorance on display. you have never answered any of the question put forth, and when you do it wrong. scripture, 2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth". now don't reply, just go back to all my post that i asked you question about that you evaded, or didn't just answer, which is all of them except the one you got wrong. you have no clue as to who the Godhead is, not IN, but is. so I will end my conversation with you, because you are still carnal and have no KNOWLEDGE of the things of God. and vain babbling leads to ungodliness.

Lastly, you try speaking of prophecy? LOL, LOL... I rest in Revelation 22:11, read it. so in your words, "see ya pal" .

PS when you get some knowledge, then come back and ask some descent question. just keep in mind my motto below.

So I see you are just going to keep repeating yourself with the same scripture as if this in any way proves your point. Ok, we can play that game. We had this same discussion before, so how about you respond to the charge made below from that thread, truthfully and I'll take you seriously. Get some common sense and reasoning ability and then come back and ask a decent question. Who is it that Jesus sits next to in the kingdom?

Link: Salvation loss. Is it possible?

Lol, 1. Your "Lord" versus "LORD" belief doesn't hold up to scrutiny". it do. and 2. "Who sits on the throne?" the Lord Jesus, as well as standing. by not knowing "diversity" you will never understand the "LORD" who is the "Lord" in flesh. good day.

The "LORD" who is the "Lord" in the flesh.....yet clearly SEPARATE.

The throne of God AND of the Lamb:

(Revelation 22:1-6) "And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. {2} In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. {3} And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: {4} And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. {5} And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. {6} And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

Its very explicit in its meaning, that there are two different thrones for two different people. It is the prophecy of the Lamb who will sit on the right hand of God the Father, who sits on THE throne.

(Luke 22:66-71) "¶ And as soon as it was day, the elders of the people and the chief priests and the scribes came together, and led him into their council, saying, {67} Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe: {68} And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go. {69} Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God. {70} Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am. {71} And they said, What need we any further witness? for we ourselves have heard of his own mouth."

(Matthew 26:64) "Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven."

Now I see you aren't man enough to admit when you are wrong, so yep, you have a nice life.

 

[Dcopymope]

Explain the Day of Judgement. What happens on that day?
o

Apparently its the day of lollipops, cake and ice cream, with the occasional whip across the backside of those being judged. She described it as "punishment" and "correction". .........yep. I don't think the bible scoffer will be too concerned if it happens the way she described it.....Getting tossed in the lake of fire for an eternity is apparently just "correction". Man, what a way to use words to sugar coat what really happens.

 

[Helen]

Explain the Day of Judgement. What happens on that day?

o

Hi there Job.
All the scriptures I read it is the judgement of our works. 'Whether they be gold, silver and precious stones, wood, hay or stubble...the fire will test all our works.'

2 Corinthians 5:10
"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad." And many many others too.

That how I read them anyway. :)
What do you believe then?

 

[Dcopymope]

Hi there Job.
All the scriptures I read it is the judgement of our works. 'Whether they be gold, silver and precious stones, wood, hay or stubble...the fire will test all our works.'

2 Corinthians 5:10
"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad." And many many others too.

That how I read them anyway. :)
What do you believe then?

So am I going to get a spanking on the day of judgement? You called it correction after all.

 

[Job]

Hi there Job.
All the scriptures I read it is the judgement of our works. 'Whether they be gold, silver and precious stones, wood, hay or stubble...the fire will test all our works.'

Is this done in heaven or here on earth?

o

 

[bbyrd009]

knowing what happens in Revelation 13

ah ok ty

 

[bbyrd009]

but Jesus Christ is not

"I am always with you, even to the end of the age"