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And, yet you claimed that being black isnt wrong, Stranger....i am confused by your hypocrisy, but not your racism - purposely muddying the water about the protest is all in a days work for you

No, you're not confused. And there is no hypocrisy. I called you black, and you immediately say that sounds like a bad thing. Why is that? When you call me white, I don't think it sounds like a bad thing.

It sounds to me like you don't like being black. That is an interesting point. Could it be that all this so called 'racial equality' that blacks are always protesting over, is really the need to blame someone for their being black? And of course, who better to blame than the whites. But, it must go farther than that. It must also go to God. So, do you blame God for making you black?

I have always said I am a racist. Just like you. And everyone else. So, your charge of racism to me does not affect me. Doesn't make me mourn or cry or be sad.

Now that the NFL is the least watched professional sport, due to the blacks disrespecting the country and flag, I guess blacks will call it racism. It is white racism that isn't watching the NFL. It's white racism that is not supporting black racism. All of this is the white's fault.

Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys has told the team that anyone protesting and disrespecting the flag will not play. Good for him. Someone finally has the courage to do it. Now the NFL needs to enforce it throughout the League.

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One black mans opinion.

i am terminally white, and i and many, many others agree; we just mostly aren't interested in watching mock battle for fun, making what K did even more Christ-like. Suicide, on an International level! Talk about dying to self! I mean the guy has attained godhood, in 1000 years one will still be able to ref "Kaepernick."
 

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Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys has told the team that anyone protesting and disrespecting the flag will not play. Good for him. Someone finally has the courage to do it. Now the NFL needs to enforce it throughout the League.

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anyway, as you probably heard the US VP walked out of a game yesterday, and I would check to make sure but some on told me Bud is pulling its sponsorship from the NFL, and don't buy that Jerry Jones stuff he's responding to the reaction to his standing out there in solidarity on that Monday or Sunday night game he was there with the rest of them. his loyalty is to the almighty dollar and its starting to show. of which this is the only way to change the attitude in question here. NFL is a business first foremost and always a business, therefore money talks, especially the loss of it, and that liberal, me me me, horse dump walks. and if the cards play out like they should, then this time next year maybe the media will have different executive leaders making the band play a different tune.

I little advice there stranger, this isn't about race, and those who would contend with you want it to be about race and not the truth of the matter. its about whether or not Kirkpatrick should have been fired or not. thing is, the stadiums are the property of the community in most cases so even if a team is playing a home game they are gests of the community.


anyways a correction on that Bud stuff it seems I was miss informed they're only watching the situation. and offering a hotline for disgruntle opinions (trying to appease the situation, you know, give out that warm and fuzzy that they care). maybe everyone should try another beer. I hear Coors tastes much better anyway.
 
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anyway, as you probably heard the US VP walked out of a game yesterday, and I would check to make sure but some on told me Bud is pulling its sponsorship from the NFL, and don't buy that Jerry Jones stuff he's responding to the reaction to his standing out there in solidarity on that Monday or Sunday night game he was there with the rest of them. his loyalty is to the almighty dollar and its starting to show. of which this is the only way to change the attitude in question here. NFL is a business first foremost and always a business, therefore money talks, especially the loss of it, and that liberal, me me me, horse dump walks. and if the cards play out like they should, then this time next year maybe the media will have different executive leaders making the band play a different tune.

I little advice there stranger, this isn't about race, and those who would contend with you want it to be about race and not the truth of the matter. its about whether or not Kirkpatrick should have been fired or not. thing is, the stadiums are the property of the community in most cases so even if a team is playing a home game they are gests of the community.


anyways a correction on that Bud stuff it seems I was miss informed they're only watching the situation. and offering a hotline for disgruntle opinions (trying to appease the situation, you know, give out that warm and fuzzy that they care). maybe everyone should try another beer. I hear Coors tastes much better anyway.

Yes Jones is wealthy. But a wealthy man can be patriotic also. As you say though it is when the pocket book is affected is when change will come. Which is why everyone needs to boycott the NFL.

Appreciate your advice. I tend to disagree though. I think this is all about race. And the black race is using the NFL as a venue for their racism. I just read that a black ESPN anchor, who had called Trump a white racist is now calling for a boycott on all things Dallas Cowboys.

Indeed, there is always another beer.

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Yes Jones is wealthy. But a wealthy man can be patriotic also. As you say though it is when the pocket book is affected is when change will come. Which is why everyone needs to boycott the NFL.

Appreciate your advice. I tend to disagree though. I think this is all about race. And the black race is using the NFL as a venue for their racism. I just read that a black ESPN anchor, who had called Trump a white racist is now calling for a boycott on all things Dallas Cowboys.

Indeed, there is always another beer.

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well on the race issue that's my point those who are unscrupulous (note a media personality) will attempt to make it that, because then it justifies and makes everyone who does disagree and or boycotts the NFL a racist, in public opinion if they can control the "narrative" as they like to call it. the American media is the public's no. one enemy whether they know it or not. also even though Bud hasn't withdrawn its sponsorship yet, there is a glimpse of hope this is turning up the pucker factor on the NLF's part, as in this is the first warning, because why would Bud jump in to do damage control.


those owners are all wealthy Jones just likes to flaunt t his a little, what ever he's allowed. but again he was out there the day the Steelers stayed off the field for the anthem, in his solidarity mode, he's now in his business mode.

see the racist card is a great manipulator tool, no one wants to be perceived as a racists, even if they are one. (unless one is a Nazi or something like it) if you remember not to long ago how racist guilt was played at every turn and opportunity, especially with media. they seek to cause the same to save ground, and the lie seems to be beginning to fester into what it really is.


they tried to make a racist issue out of a few incidents or more than a few out of mistakes made by police officers around the country (mainly media because racist controversy always holds attention of the public) if you are dumb enough to provoke some one that is permitted to have a gun and use it as he or she sees fit, shame on your moron-ness. anything after that is a court issue whether the cop was out of order or not, and has nothing to do with personal race issues the cop may or may not have had.


if one hates you just because they want to, so what, but if they break the law its another thing all together.

this is one of the reasons they don't like Trump, he challenges their wisdom to play the demonizing of those who don't like or agree with them.
 

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well on the race issue that's my point those who are unscrupulous (note a media personality) will attempt to make it that, because then it justifies and makes everyone who does disagree and or boycotts the NFL a racist, in public opinion if they can control the "narrative" as they like to call it. the American media is the public's no. one enemy whether they know it or not. also even though Bud hasn't withdrawn its sponsorship yet, there is a glimpse of hope this is turning up the pucker factor on the NLF's part, as in this is the first warning, because why would Bud jump in to do damage control.


those owners are all wealthy Jones just likes to flaunt t his a little, what ever he's allowed. but again he was out there the day the Steelers stayed off the field for the anthem, in his solidarity mode, he's now in his business mode.

see the racist card is a great manipulator tool, no one wants to be perceived as a racists, even if they are one. (unless one is a Nazi or something like it) if you remember not to long ago how racist guilt was played at every turn and opportunity, especially with media. they seek to cause the same to save ground, and the lie seems to be beginning to fester into what it really is.


they tried to make a racist issue out of a few incidents or more than a few out of mistakes made by police officers around the country (mainly media because racist controversy always holds attention of the public) if you are dumb enough to provoke some one that is permitted to have a gun and use it as he or she sees fit, shame on your moron-ness. anything after that is a court issue whether the cop was out of order or not, and has nothing to do with personal race issues the cop may or may not have had.


if one hates you just because they want to, so what, but if they break the law its another thing all together.

this is one of the reasons they don't like Trump, he challenges their wisdom to play the demonizing of those who don't like or agree with them.

No, it's a race issue pure and simple. The protest is about the supposed mistreatment or inequality of blacks in the U.S. The black NFL players are sitting or taking a knee or raising a fist during the national anthem in order to disrespect the anthem, country, and flag.

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No, it's a race issue pure and simple. The protest is about the supposed mistreatment or inequality of blacks in the U.S. The black NFL players are sitting or taking a knee or raising a fist during the national anthem in order to disrespect the anthem, country, and flag.

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God bless them, every one! Patriotism does not feed them, nor does the sly involvement of fascist politics in their chosen profession. Pretty sure they have a viable lawsuit, too.

nope they have contracts that require certain behavior, and they are in stadiums that are paid for by the community (in most cases) of which they are guests, also, who going to sue who? its been never against the law to not buy Bud or NFL stuff, and we are not required to give any attention to broadcasts of any games. its business plain and simple, if they want to voice their opinions on events they have plenty of money and means to do so outside of the game, of which no one would say they couldn't or shouldn't.

if a employee while working and representing the company did the same they would be fired, because the company is not required to up hold or promote or represent the employee's views on anything. the employee's actions would be a breach of agreement.
 

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No, it's a race issue pure and simple. The protest is about the supposed mistreatment or inequality of blacks in the U.S. The black NFL players are sitting or taking a knee or raising a fist during the national anthem in order to disrespect the anthem, country, and flag.

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no its not about the protest, its about where the protest toke place, and the action of the protest. if the said players would have taken up their cause in any other place that would be appropriate, nothing would be said about it other than the usual talking heads of media. would their? employees expressed their views where no one employing them were required to support their views nor tolerate the use of what the employees didn't pay for. its a breach of etiquette and agreement, they could vent their views anywhere else, and this thread wouldn't be here.
 

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nope they have contracts that require certain behavior, and they are in stadiums that are paid for by the community (in most cases) of which they are guests, also, who going to sue who? its been never against the law to not buy Bud or NFL stuff,
never been against the law to take a knee, either, and we have laws that are not being enforced concerning discrimination and right to work, too; so, "yep."
and we are not required to give any attention to broadcasts of any games. its business plain and simple, if they want to voice their opinions on events
who ever voiced any opinions, before a game? Never saw that myself. If they are "voicing opinions," then so are those who stand, right?
they have plenty of money and means to do so outside of the game, of which no one would say they couldn't or shouldn't.

if a employee while working and representing the company did the same they would be fired, because the company is not required to up hold or promote or represent the employee's views on anything. the employee's actions would be a breach of agreement.
that agreement would be invalid under the Constitution, obviously, you cannot write a legal contract requiring a signator to be "patriotic," the same way you cannot discriminate upon other bases, religion, etc.
 

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never been against the law to take a knee, either, and we have laws that are not being enforced concerning discrimination and right to work, too; so, "yep."
who ever voiced any opinions, before a game? Never saw that myself. If they are "voicing opinions," then so are those who stand, right?
that agreement would be invalid under the Constitution, obviously, you cannot write a legal contract requiring a signator to be "patriotic," the same way you cannot discriminate upon other bases, religion, etc.


what the hey do you know about contracts and the constitution, really. these guys do anything detrimental to the public image of the NFL according to the NFL, and they are in breach of contract because its in their contract of which they get paid handsomely to agree to. where have you been?
 

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what the hey do you know about contracts and the constitution, really.
a lot, we could go on at length if you like
these guys do anything detrimental to the public image of the NFL according to the NFL, and they are in breach of contract because its in their contract of which they get paid handsomely to agree to. where have you been?
of course it should be realized that we are talking about a case here that no one wants to prosecute, nor defend, as this link reveals better than i could, but it should be apparent that you cannot discriminate on the basis of age, race, or beliefs, while you can discriminate on the basis of character deficiency, as defined by the law. Iow if you are "doing anything detrimental" to the image, you are also breaking a law, you're getting drunk and arrested or whatever, with the emphasis on the "arrested" part, since the NFL could care less if you played drunk lol, as long as you played better or whatever.

"Public image" is an opinion, and for it to stand up in court it would have to run a gauntlet, and a judge is legally required to find for a defendant in contract law when there is any doubt as to interpretation. Btw the same as for insurance contracts, if you interpret a statement in a policy more to your advantage than the Insurance company's interpretation, and can reasonably demonstrate that opinion to a judge, you will collect. Always let the other guy write the contract!

Kaepernick had no issues, voiced no issues, and broke no laws. The MSM could blow it up to whatever they liked, still no offense (except equal time, which i would file for first); it is when K was discriminated against that the law was broken.

I'd go straight to Civil Court, too, and i would do it now, while the war-mongers are on their knees, and "public image" is against them. I'd sue for like a $Billion or something, and of course avoid criminal court--where they will try their best to drag you, of course. Several billion, in a class action, would be even better, and i would try it in the court of public opinion, essentially. Spend several million on ads, iow.

Of course they still would not win, but then there would be no judgement, either, but a settlement.
 
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no its not about the protest, its about where the protest toke place, and the action of the protest. if the said players would have taken up their cause in any other place that would be appropriate, nothing would be said about it other than the usual talking heads of media. would their? employees expressed their views where no one employing them were required to support their views nor tolerate the use of what the employees didn't pay for. its a breach of etiquette and agreement, they could vent their views anywhere else, and this thread wouldn't be here.

You make no sense. You are saying the protest is not about the protest. If the players had taken the protest any other place, it would still have been a racist protest. It just wouldn't involve the NFL and disrespect to the flag.

But they forced their racist protest on the NFL, using the NFL as a forum. And the method they used was disrespect to the flag, anthem, and country.

Well it worked. They got a lot of peoples attention. Everyone sees their black racism for what it is.

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