The Possible Year of the Second Coming in 2027 AD, the 1290, 1260, 1335, and 2300 Days of Daniel

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I've written out a study outlining the possible year of the second coming of Christ, based on the jubilee year cycles that occur every 50 years as mandated by the Torah, the 1290 years of Daniel, and then the 1335 years of Daniel which come after, which expires around 2027 AD. The appointed times in the book of Daniel accurately predicted the first coming of Jesus 490 years after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem around 457 BC, so knowing the approximate year of the return of the Lord is related to understanding these appointed times in Daniel and in the Law of God. The study can be found here in English The Possible Year of the Second Coming in 2027 AD, the 1290, 1260, 1335, and 2300 Days of Daniel, 1000 Years of Revelation, and the Two Abomination of Desolations | Wisdom of God or in Spanish here El Año Posible de la Segunda Venida en 2027 DC, los 1290, 1260, 1335 y 2300 Días de Daniel, 1000 Años del Apocalipsis y las Dos Abominaciones de Desolaciones | Sabiduria de Dios . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.


don't sweat the remarks from the peanut gallery, most assume their beliefs anyway, for one the adim poster doesn't like unfavorable remarks on her threads, but is please to do so on others it seems.

there's no wrong in looking into the possibilities the Lord wouldn't of said such things to the prophets and the apostles if He wanted them to ignore His second coming. will anyone know the day the hour if the Lord says so then no one will know, but will you see it coming? He seems to tell us enough to look that way. the Pharisees didn't know Jesus was born, and they weren't looking, though they could have known. but guys like John the Baptist and those who where following him such as Apostle John and Apostle Andrew and the brothers who became Apostles of significance they went home to tell, didn't miss the boat did they?
 

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don't hold me to it but I do believe they have the corner stone not in place maybe but they are prepared in all other aspects. and its my understanding that a temple of traditional construction is yet to take place.

this anti-Christ / peace maker would have to negotiate the removal of the dome of the rock to do this, correct? and there supposed to be some false prophets given power to deceive the world, if my memory serves.

Yes, They have all of the Temple instruments, Table for Show bread, Alter of Incense, Menorah, they even have the stones collected for the Alter for Sacrifice in the outer Court, they also Have been training confirmed Priests from Aaron's linage. If they get access to the Temple Mount they can be set up within 48 hours. all they have to do is dedicate the Alter for 8 Days, then the Alter is valid!
 

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Yes, They have all of the Temple instruments, Table for Show bread, Alter of Incense, Menorah, they even have the stones collected for the Alter for Sacrifice in the outer Court, they also Have been training confirmed Priests from Aaron's linage. If they get access to the Temple Mount they can be set up within 48 hours. all they have to do is dedicate the Alter for 8 Days, then the Alter is valid!


I'm still wonder how that's going to play out, seeing it will take the removal of the dome of the rock. its my understanding that it is illegal for any Jew to set foot in the area of the dome of the rock, that is the present state of Israel law. consider just how crazy that is, back in the day it was illegal for anyone but a Jew to set foot in temple grounds, and now the same people have written a law otherwise.
 

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I'm still wonder how that's going to play out, seeing it will take the removal of the dome of the rock. its my understanding that it is illegal for any Jew to set foot in the area of the dome of the rock, that is the present state of Israel law. consider just how crazy that is, back in the day it was illegal for anyone but a Jew to set foot in temple grounds, and now the same people have written a law otherwise.

It is my belief that the the Dome of the Rock will remain, for the prophecy in Revelation says, "do not measure the outer court, for is has been given to the Gentiles". The Dome of the Rock happens to be where the outer court of the temple was. As such, the new temple will likely be built alongside it. There is much talk indicating that two temples will likely exist alongside each other.
 

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It is my belief that the the Dome of the Rock will remain, for the prophecy in Revelation says, "do not measure the outer court, for is has been given to the Gentiles". The Dome of the Rock happens to be where the outer court of the temple was. As such, the new temple will likely be built alongside it. There is much talk indicating that two temples will likely exist alongside each other.

nothing is imposable in this corrupt setup but, any orthodox hard core Hebrew has to be turning in their graves at the thought of it. the up-right invigorate and the wicked desecrate.
 

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nothing is imposable in this corrupt setup but, any orthodox hard core Hebrew has to be turning in their graves at the thought of it.

Yes, that building is an abomination and every stone should be thrown down and ground to dust. However, because of the complicated situation there, along with prophecy, I have reason to believe it will remain until the return of Christ.
 

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I've written out a study outlining the possible year of the second coming of Christ, based on the jubilee year cycles that occur every 50 years as mandated by the Torah, the 1290 years of Daniel, and then the 1335 years of Daniel which come after, which expires around 2027 AD. The appointed times in the book of Daniel accurately predicted the first coming of Jesus 490 years after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem around 457 BC, so knowing the approximate year of the return of the Lord is related to understanding these appointed times in Daniel and in the Law of God. The study can be found here in English The Possible Year of the Second Coming in 2027 AD, the 1290, 1260, 1335, and 2300 Days of Daniel, 1000 Years of Revelation, and the Two Abomination of Desolations | Wisdom of God or in Spanish here El Año Posible de la Segunda Venida en 2027 DC, los 1290, 1260, 1335 y 2300 Días de Daniel, 1000 Años del Apocalipsis y las Dos Abominaciones de Desolaciones | Sabiduria de Dios . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.
Do you preach to the ignorant:

1 Thessalonians 4:13
"But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope."

Because...we have been told the truth, and it is not a mass event at some year in the future, but rather:

1 Corinthians 15:23
"But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming."
 
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nothing is imposable in this corrupt setup but, any orthodox hard core Hebrew has to be turning in their graves at the thought of it. the up-right invigorate and the wicked desecrate.

There is also rumors that the Vatican may also be involved, the setting up of a Image is also a reality, Jews do not set up Images, Muslims don't ether, BUT the Catholics like their Images, statues and such!
 

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There is also rumors that the Vatican may also be involved, the setting up of a Image is also a reality, Jews do not set up Images, Muslims don't ether, BUT the Catholics like their Images, statues and such!


never heard such but I wouldn't put it past them, they be liken them statues, comes from the Greek/Italian way of communicating to the gen. public. paintings morals stain-glass and statues are the best way to communicate to a illiterate public back in the day.


is there some kind of "make nice" religious thing going on there? that global "same god" lying propaganda they like to sell
 

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I was looking at your study and can tell that you put a serious effort into it. I think it's going to be much sooner than 2026. But I don't really want to come along and nit pick on the problems that I see with it. I like 538 and 1798. That's the main thing. If you don't got that, you're not going to get much further. The first really big prophetic time period began only 443 years after Revelation was written. We're much further into Revelation's narrative than most people probably realize.

"Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book; for the time is at hand.​

Let us begin a discussion on these matters.

"Which is another distinct time of 1,335 years after the “completion of construction” of the Dome of the Rock around 692 AD, which will be fulfilled around 2027 AD, which is the year after the possible year of the second coming of Jesus Christ around 2026 AD, for the fall of 2026 AD will be the start of a year of Jubilee counting cycles of fifty years from 26 AD, where at the Day of Atonement of that year of Jubilee, which is Yom Kippur, a final trumpet will be blasted after the Festival of Trumpets,​

I doubt 26AD was a Jubilee year. But am I understanding that you are counting 50 Jubilees times forty years to equal 2000 years since 26AD?

The appointed times in the book of Daniel accurately predicted the first coming of Jesus 490 years after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem around 457 BC, so knowing the approximate year of the return of the Lord is related to understanding these appointed times in Daniel and in the Law of God.

I agree. I also agree with what Isaac Newton said about Daniel 9 having embedded within that mysterious text a provision for two comings of Messiah.

I've written out a study outlining the possible year of the second coming of Christ, based on the jubilee year cycles that occur every 50 years as mandated by the Torah,

I think that the Jubilee cycles are counted like this:

49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49=490 years.

The 50th year is the Jubilee but that year then becomes year #1 for the next cycle.

the 1290 years of Daniel, and then the 1335 years of Daniel which come after, which expires around 2027 AD.

I think these are real days, literal time.

"and they will prophesy for 1,260 days.

Do you think they will prophesy for 1260 days or 1260 years? Daniel 7, 8 and 9 had to be translated. Even if they didn't know the mechanism or the reason why, it was obvious because it didn't work any other way. But our appointed time of the end is not going to be 1260 years long so some of the prophetic time periods need to remain as literal time.

It would be great if you were right Christian. We would have more time. I'm a procrastinator. I would rather put this off for awhile longer. But i think it's happening now. I think we're already in the 1260 days and approaching the last third, the third watch of the night.

"If he comes in the second watch,
or in the third, and finds them awake,
blessed are those servants!

"For from now on in one house there will be five divided,
three against two and two against three.

Two divided by three,
0.666666666666667.
 

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I was looking at your study and can tell that you put a serious effort into it. I think it's going to be much sooner than 2026. But I don't really want to come along and nit pick on the problems that I see with it. I like 538 and 1798. That's the main thing. If you don't got that, you're not going to get much further. The first really big prophetic time period began only 443 years after Revelation was written. We're much further into Revelation's narrative than most people probably realize.

"Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book; for the time is at hand.​



"Which is another distinct time of 1,335 years after the “completion of construction” of the Dome of the Rock around 692 AD, which will be fulfilled around 2027 AD, which is the year after the possible year of the second coming of Jesus Christ around 2026 AD, for the fall of 2026 AD will be the start of a year of Jubilee counting cycles of fifty years from 26 AD, where at the Day of Atonement of that year of Jubilee, which is Yom Kippur, a final trumpet will be blasted after the Festival of Trumpets,​

I doubt 26AD was a Jubilee year. But am I understanding that you are counting 50 Jubilees times forty years to equal 2000 years since 26AD?



I agree. I also agree with what Isaac Newton said about Daniel 9 having embedded within that mysterious text a provision for two comings of Messiah.



I think that the Jubilee cycles are counted like this:

49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49=490 years.

The 50th year is the Jubilee but that year then becomes year #1 for the next cycle.



I think these are real days, literal time.

"and they will prophesy for 1,260 days.

Do you think they will prophesy for 1260 days or 1260 years? Daniel 7, 8 and 9 had to be translated. Even if they didn't know the mechanism or the reason why, it was obvious because it didn't work any other way. But our appointed time of the end is not going to be 1260 years long so some of the prophetic time periods need to remain as literal time.

It would be great if you were right Christian. We would have more time. I'm a procrastinator. I would rather put this off for awhile longer. But i think it's happening now. I think we're already in the 1260 days and approaching the last third, the third watch of the night.

"If he comes in the second watch,
or in the third, and finds them awake,
blessed are those servants!

"For from now on in one house there will be five divided,
three against two and two against three.

Two divided by three,
0.666666666666667.

Do some research, 26AD was a jubilee year, hence why Jesus Christ quoted Isaiah concerning "the favorable year of the LORD" when "the LORD has anointed me", which was he received the holy spirit. Next, jubilee cycles are not 49+49, they are 50+50, because every 7th year is a Sabbath year, which means the 49th year is a Sabbath year (7x7), and then the 50th year is the Jubilee, hence,

“‘Count off seven sabbath years–seven times seven years–so that the seven sabbath years amount to a period of forty-nine years. Then have the trumpet sounded everywhere on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement sound the trumpet throughout your land. Consecrate the fiftieth year and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee for you; each of you is to return to your family property and to your own clan. (Leviticus 25:8-10 [NIV])

The fall of 2026 AD is a jubilee year. I have researched this extensively, and there are historical accounts that indicate the year 26 AD was a jubilee year, and not to mention the prophetic correlation in Isaiah, and that it matches precisely 3 1/2 years prior to his death in 30 AD in the spring. Point behind this study is, GET READY, THERE'S NOT ALOT OF TIME LEFT.

What must you do?

Aside from first believing in Jesus Christ, which you already do, THEN do the following:

1. Repent, which means STOP SINNING, which means stop breaking the Torah, which is the Law of God. Do not worry about "shadows of the Law", such as observing Sabbaths, Festivals, etc. They are foreshadows pointing to different realities in Christ, but all other commands, you MUST obey.
2. Humble yourself, which means sell your possessions. Reduce yourself to necessities.
3. Do good works, which means give to the poor, help the needy, help orphans, etc. THIS is how you SERVE God, by DOING GOOD. And this is how you BEAR FRUIT.
4. Become baptized with the holy spirit, unless you receive the holy spirit, which is evidenced by prophesying or speaking in a new language, which will free you of the sinful nature you were conceived in. If you do not receive the holy spirit, you WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD, because you MUST BECOME BORN OF THE SPIRIT TO ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. At this point, it then becomes impossible to ever sin again.
5. Spread the word to others, and lead others to righteousness.

I've assembled a list of important things to KNOW. READ. Statement of Faith | Wisdom of God
 

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I was looking at your study and can tell that you put a serious effort into it. I think it's going to be much sooner than 2026. But I don't really want to come along and nit pick on the problems that I see with it. I like 538 and 1798. That's the main thing. If you don't got that, you're not going to get much further. The first really big prophetic time period began only 443 years after Revelation was written. We're much further into Revelation's narrative than most people probably realize.

"Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book; for the time is at hand.​



"Which is another distinct time of 1,335 years after the “completion of construction” of the Dome of the Rock around 692 AD, which will be fulfilled around 2027 AD, which is the year after the possible year of the second coming of Jesus Christ around 2026 AD, for the fall of 2026 AD will be the start of a year of Jubilee counting cycles of fifty years from 26 AD, where at the Day of Atonement of that year of Jubilee, which is Yom Kippur, a final trumpet will be blasted after the Festival of Trumpets,​

I doubt 26AD was a Jubilee year. But am I understanding that you are counting 50 Jubilees times forty years to equal 2000 years since 26AD?



I agree. I also agree with what Isaac Newton said about Daniel 9 having embedded within that mysterious text a provision for two comings of Messiah.



I think that the Jubilee cycles are counted like this:

49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49=490 years.

The 50th year is the Jubilee but that year then becomes year #1 for the next cycle.



I think these are real days, literal time.

"and they will prophesy for 1,260 days.

Do you think they will prophesy for 1260 days or 1260 years? Daniel 7, 8 and 9 had to be translated. Even if they didn't know the mechanism or the reason why, it was obvious because it didn't work any other way. But our appointed time of the end is not going to be 1260 years long so some of the prophetic time periods need to remain as literal time.

It would be great if you were right Christian. We would have more time. I'm a procrastinator. I would rather put this off for awhile longer. But i think it's happening now. I think we're already in the 1260 days and approaching the last third, the third watch of the night.

"If he comes in the second watch,
or in the third, and finds them awake,
blessed are those servants!

"For from now on in one house there will be five divided,
three against two and two against three.

Two divided by three,
0.666666666666667.

Also, I must address one other thing, where you think the coming of Christ will be sooner than 2026. You have to realize that there are a few prophecies that must happen first before the coming of Christ, which have not happened yet. It is these three main ones:

1. The appearance of the two witnesses in Revelation three and a half years prior to the coming of Christ. They will appear around the spring since Christ returns around the fall.
2. The formation of the final "United States of Europe" as the 8th and final head of the first beast, which is about to happen.
3. The destruction of the Vatican by the then entities that give authority to the federalized union of Europe.

THEN is the second coming. Obviously, from the above, there still at least another 4 years before Christ WOULD appear. However, we are within a 9 year period where the above will probably happen as I have calculated, based on the jubilee year cycles and book of Daniel timelines.
 
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I was looking at your study and can tell that you put a serious effort into it. I think it's going to be much sooner than 2026. But I don't really want to come along and nit pick on the problems that I see with it. I like 538 and 1798. That's the main thing. If you don't got that, you're not going to get much further. The first really big prophetic time period began only 443 years after Revelation was written. We're much further into Revelation's narrative than most people probably realize.

"Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book; for the time is at hand.​



"Which is another distinct time of 1,335 years after the “completion of construction” of the Dome of the Rock around 692 AD, which will be fulfilled around 2027 AD, which is the year after the possible year of the second coming of Jesus Christ around 2026 AD, for the fall of 2026 AD will be the start of a year of Jubilee counting cycles of fifty years from 26 AD, where at the Day of Atonement of that year of Jubilee, which is Yom Kippur, a final trumpet will be blasted after the Festival of Trumpets,​

I doubt 26AD was a Jubilee year. But am I understanding that you are counting 50 Jubilees times forty years to equal 2000 years since 26AD?



I agree. I also agree with what Isaac Newton said about Daniel 9 having embedded within that mysterious text a provision for two comings of Messiah.



I think that the Jubilee cycles are counted like this:

49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49=490 years.

The 50th year is the Jubilee but that year then becomes year #1 for the next cycle.



I think these are real days, literal time.

"and they will prophesy for 1,260 days.

Do you think they will prophesy for 1260 days or 1260 years? Daniel 7, 8 and 9 had to be translated. Even if they didn't know the mechanism or the reason why, it was obvious because it didn't work any other way. But our appointed time of the end is not going to be 1260 years long so some of the prophetic time periods need to remain as literal time.

It would be great if you were right Christian. We would have more time. I'm a procrastinator. I would rather put this off for awhile longer. But i think it's happening now. I think we're already in the 1260 days and approaching the last third, the third watch of the night.

"If he comes in the second watch,
or in the third, and finds them awake,
blessed are those servants!

"For from now on in one house there will be five divided,
three against two and two against three.

Two divided by three,
0.666666666666667.

Read The Identity of the Antichrist, the Two Beasts of Revelation, and the Whore of Babylon | Wisdom of God and The Second Coming, the Trumpet Blasts, the Bowls of Wrath, and Inheriting the Earth | Wisdom of God .
 

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all they have to do is dedicate the Alter for 8 Days, then the Alter is valid!
Now, if they could just locate The Ark of the Covenant, they would be back where they once were......I will rejoice the day we are ALL grafted into our precious Lord, under this New and marvelous Covenant...:)
 
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<snip>

I would suggest starting with Revelation 13:11, that beast has two horns, what do the two horns symbolize? Hint: In Daniel 8, there is a ram with two horns, which symbolize / are the kings of Media and Persia.

<snip>

It is interesting that you make a suggestion as to who the little horn is in your response to christiang. But it seems to me that you are suggesting that he look in the wrong quarter for who the little horn is, which in Daniel 8 is found being associated with the third beats of Daniel 7:1-12 while in Daniel 7:1-12 the little horn is associated with the fourth beast and is responsible for speaking out great things against God. If we want to find out who all the beasts are we need to look at spiritual beings, namely fallen heavenly hosts that have dominion over the peoples of the earth.

We are also told in Isaiah 24:21-22 that these "beasts" will be judged in heaven at the same time as the kings of the earth and their armies are judged on the earth and that they will be locked up in a pit to await their punishment many days after their imprisonment.

Perhaps, your knowledge in this instance, like christiang, is not based on a firm foundation.
 

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I've written out a study outlining the possible year of the second coming of Christ, based on the jubilee year cycles that occur every 50 years as mandated by the Torah, the 1290 years of Daniel, and then the 1335 years of Daniel which come after, which expires around 2027 AD. The appointed times in the book of Daniel accurately predicted the first coming of Jesus 490 years after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem around 457 BC, so knowing the approximate year of the return of the Lord is related to understanding these appointed times in Daniel and in the Law of God. The study can be found here in English The Possible Year of the Second Coming in 2027 AD, the 1290, 1260, 1335, and 2300 Days of Daniel, 1000 Years of Revelation, and the Two Abomination of Desolations | Wisdom of God or in Spanish here El Año Posible de la Segunda Venida en 2027 DC, los 1290, 1260, 1335 y 2300 Días de Daniel, 1000 Años del Apocalipsis y las Dos Abominaciones de Desolaciones | Sabiduria de Dios . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.

I have read your study on your understanding of the suggested times for certain event to occur.

In Exodus 20:4-6 God warns Israel that if they enter into idolatrous worship that the iniquities of their fathers of the first two ages of their existence will be visited upon their children and their children's children in the third and the fourth ages of their existence.

Daniel 9:24a contains a warning to Israel that they need to repent of their idolatrous behaviour before the start of the third age before it is too late and their iniquities are visited upon their children and their children's children.

Daniel 9:24a:
"Seventy weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,​

The rest of this prophecy tells us what God intends to do: -

Dan 9:24b: -
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy.​

If the birth of Christ marked the beginning of the thirst age of the existence of the nation Israel, then this prophecy was given around the years 494 BC.

Perhaps the above will be food for you to consider. Remember that there are many passages in the Old testament which speaks of Israel's idolatrous behaviour as being the reason for the nation of Israel being scattered.,
 

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I've written out a study outlining the possible year of the second coming of Christ, <snip>

Concerning the2300 years of the sanctuary of the temple being trampled by the Gentiles we are told by Paul in Romans 11:25-27 that, after the end of the 2,300 years of the heathen gentiles trampling the sanctuary of God, all of Israel will be saved/redeemed.

When will the 2,300 years of the trampling of the sanctuary end? It will end at the time of Armageddon when God Judges the kings of the earth and their armies in our near future. In Revelation 16:12-16 we are also told that three foul/unclean spirits like frogs will go out to the kings of the world to do signs and wonders which the whole world will see unfolding before their very eyes, and to draw these kings to the place known as Armageddon. This will occur around 40 years after we have seen the three evil frog like spirits go out to the kings of the world to do their signs and wonders.

It is my view , that the trampling of the sanctuary began around the year 250 BC around 70-80 years after the death of Alexandra the Great.

Sadly the translation of the original Greek text of Romans 11:25 leaves a lot to be desire.

A recent English translation reads thus: -

Romans 11:25-26a: -
For I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: A partial hardening has happened to Israel until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved,
(from The NET Bible®)

Twelve or so years ago, I made the following comment about Romans 11:25b-26a: -

This is the traditional understanding; however I would suggest that a better understanding if reference is made to Daniel 8:13-14 and the trampling of the Sanctuary by the heathen Gentiles.

A better translation would be: - “until the prophesied full time period of the ‘heathen’ Gentiles is complete, after which all of Israel will be saved;”

We also know that at this time of the kings, that God will establish His everlasting Kingdom here on the earth, and that the foundational truth that Jesus is the Son of God will come down out of heaven at this time.
 

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I doubt 26AD was a Jubilee year.
Do some research, 26AD was a jubilee year

It is a possibility. However the problem with it, is that 30 CE imo is not a likely year for the crucifixion based upon all sources. Considering sources such as the Catalogus Liberian,
the Panarion, the Liber Pontificalis and the Acta Pilati, the most likely year for the crucifixion is 29CE. Considering the Talmud, it suggests a year of 31 CE.

Neither of those years, support 26 CE as the year of the Yovel. So no, we can not state conclusively that 26CE was a Jubilee.

<snip>


I think that the Jubilee cycles are counted like this:
49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49+49=490 years.
The 50th year is the Jubilee but that year then becomes year #1 for the next cycle.
... jubilee cycles are not 49+49, they are 50+50, because every 7th year is a Sabbath year, which means the 49th year is a Sabbath year (7x7), and then the 50th year is the Jubilee, hence
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There is not a complete consensus regarding this even within Judaic circles. However, if we examine Shavu`ot, The Feast of Weeks, we clearly see that 50 is an inclusive count (cf Lev 23:10-16). It was from the day after shabat until the day after shabat. Always upon the first day of the week. Likewise the Yovel would follow suit IMO. There are those however that would argue based upon Lev 23:22 that is an additional year.

Shabat is a seven day cycle that is uninterrupted. So based upon Shavu`ot and Shabat, I am of the 50 year inclusive count which leaves the seven year cycle of shabat years uninterrupted. Thus, a 49 year cycle as we would count.

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It is interesting that you make a suggestion as to who the little horn is in your response to christiang. But it seems to me that you are suggesting that he look in the wrong quarter for who the little horn is

Oy vey! I made no such suggestion to Christiang. If you would care to look again, I was pointing out the the second beast of Revelation 13, the one like unto a lamb, has "two" horns. I suggested that he consider the ram of Daniel 8 which also has two horns and who are clearly identified as a hint with regard to the two horns in Rev 13. And yes, there are two distinct "little horns", who was the first?

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Perhaps, your knowledge in this instance, like christiang, is not based on a firm foundation.

Feel better now? And whether it is upon a "firm foundation" or not, you may think that it is as long as it agrees with you. But if it disagrees with you, then it is must not be. Sound about right?