Spiritual Eye to discern

[pia]

Yes there is..and this it it...101G says this is not a debate, or even discussion thread...but just a sharing thread...
I'm waiting for a few more to step into the water first..before I dip my toe.
I really hope that this thread works.
Share one of your eye opening God moments Amadeus.

Did you find out what that section is called....I keep forgetting they are even there, I just go by the individual titles of threads lol

 

[mjrhealth]

A little one

In the beginning was God,
and God made all things,
and God made a garden and he made man,
and He breathed His life into man, and man lived, because of the breath of God.
and God walked with man, for He was able for man was not yet fallen and death was not.
but the enemy deceived man through teh serpent and so man fell and corruption came.
No longer could man stand before God for God was Holy,
but God still longed to walk with man, so God made Himself a nation for Himself,
He got them to build temples, in these and only these could man come before God, but even than it was filled with smoke so man could not look upon the Glory of God,
and the only one that could come was the high priest with much preparation,
but than came Jesus, teh Word of God come in the flesh,
he came to show man a better way, but man saw his position and prestige disappearing and so killed the one who came to save them.
but in His death a wonderful thing happened.
the veil in the temple was torn in two,
and so God who was only there for the privileged suddenly became available to all.

 

[Invisibilis]

Many things can be known logically but never understood until experienced. Some things cannot be experienced until one's faith is tested to the point of total surrender. It is like willing to lose everything, even life as we know it, to see a life we have not known before.

On one occasion at the point of losing a loved one of many years, I accepted the loss and gave all my heart to what is no longer. It was the first time I truly experienced unconditional love. What I surrendered was the person. What I gave my heart to was the love in that person. At that very moment, I saw a vision of a spirit light-being instead of the person. The spirit looked at me as if to say "Oh, you can see me". Instantly I realized that we are spirit and not this body we are clothed in. I also realized, BECAUSE of this revelation, that my WHOLE life was invalid as a fabricated story which I made for myself since birth.

A shift of life reference occurred within me, and is still shifting after many years. The shift is from seeing the world from a 'self' point of reference to a spirit point of reference. It is hard to explain. It is as if the self-reference looks from the outside into the body to find itself. The spirit knows that there is no 'self' and looks from the inside out. Because the spirit views life from the inside, it sees what is inside. The self sees from the outside and only sees what is outside, such as appearances, of a person. The spirit sees inside, such as love, truth, as well as fear and deceptions, of a person.

At first, this all seemed both very strange, as if losing ones mind, which in a way was true. Because I no longer had any desire to conform to other peoples fears, such as people-pleasing to stay liked, I felt very isolated. But I loved the truth more than wanting to be accepted by others. From this I discovered the truth of solitude, which is opposite. It became clearer that the world is back to front from the Truth. Everybody seemed to be saying things purely to protect their 'self', which is invalid in the first place. The world was in a constant battle of the selves or egos. I did not want to play that game any longer.

As a consequence, I have been living like a hermit. For over ten years now, I have been living in silence (no TV, no radio, no news, I don't even know who our prime minister is). I love the sounds of nature. I love this lifestyle. It is simple and serene. I use the computer for learning, shopping, and converse with Christians, on the Internet, because they are the only ones on earth who are closest to the Truth.

 

[101G]

Hi there......My oldest daughter said the exact same thing many years ago, and I do speak of it, but face to face with people, usually just one person at a time, and when I 'feel' the time is right.........When I did try, after joining the forum, and seeing the horrid things in response to it ( for the most part), I thought better of it......I don't want to make my Brothers and Sisters
use anger and venom, anymore than they already do.
I have said many times, there is nothing I can do to make Jesus real for anyone else....All I can do is tell them that He is, and that they too can call on His name, and then accept that He is there, whether they can see Him or not.....Yes, I am fortunate to have seen and heard Him, so both visible and invisible................But I cannot deny that it is harder when we cannot see Him, but again, that is what faith is for, and not unlike a muscle, faith has to be exercised.
He once told me that when I find it difficult, to use my God given imagination, until that reality can come in ( usually by remembering what I have seen and heard from Him prior to this point ).......It still isn't always easy, and at times it's too easy to get janked back into the world of the flesh, but thankfully, we can trust Him for everything.......If we so choose !
Thank you for your lovely response and it's fine, I didn't take it as some form of pressuring....I know only too well, where your heart is coming from...........Bless you Pia

GINOLJC to all. @pia, first thanks for your kind words, and see, just this testimony alone is worth it's weight. while listening to you I'm reminded of the Lord. Isaiah 53:3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not". and yet after all of that, verse 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed"

after being despised and rejected of men, he still died, so the SOME may LIVE. what an example. as said before I understand your position. and thanks for that testimony.

Peace in Christ Jesus.

 

[101G]

A little one

In the beginning was God,
and God made all things,
and God made a garden and he made man,
and He breathed His life into man, and man lived, because of the breath of God.
and God walked with man, for He was able for man was not yet fallen and death was not.
but the enemy deceived man through teh serpent and so man fell and corruption came.
No longer could man stand before God for God was Holy,
but God still longed to walk with man, so God made Himself a nation for Himself,
He got them to build temples, in these and only these could man come before God, but even than it was filled with smoke so man could not look upon the Glory of God,
and the only one that could come was the high priest with much preparation,
but than came Jesus, teh Word of God come in the flesh,
he came to show man a better way, but man saw his position and prestige disappearing and so killed the one who came to save them.
but in His death a wonderful thing happened.
the veil in the temple was torn in two,
and so God who was only there for the privileged suddenly became available to all.

mjrhealth, thanks very much

 

[101G]

Many things can be known logically but never understood until experienced. Some things cannot be experienced until one's faith is tested to the point of total surrender. It is like willing to lose everything, even life as we know it, to see a life we have not known before.

On one occasion at the point of losing a loved one of many years, I accepted the loss and gave all my heart to what is no longer. It was the first time I truly experienced unconditional love. What I surrendered was the person. What I gave my heart to was the love in that person. At that very moment, I saw a vision of a spirit light-being instead of the person. The spirit looked at me as if to say "Oh, you can see me". Instantly I realized that we are spirit and not this body we are clothed in. I also realized, BECAUSE of this revelation, that my WHOLE life was invalid as a fabricated story which I made for myself since birth.

A shift of life reference occurred within me, and is still shifting after many years. The shift is from seeing the world from a 'self' point of reference to a spirit point of reference. It is hard to explain. It is as if the self-reference looks from the outside into the body to find itself. The spirit knows that there is no 'self' and looks from the inside out. Because the spirit views life from the inside, it sees what is inside. The self sees from the outside and only sees what is outside, such as appearances, of a person. The spirit sees inside, such as love, truth, as well as fear and deceptions, of a person.

At first, this all seemed both very strange, as if losing ones mind, which in a way was true. Because I no longer had any desire to conform to other peoples fears, such as people-pleasing to stay liked, I felt very isolated. But I loved the truth more than wanting to be accepted by others. From this I discovered the truth of solitude, which is opposite. It became clearer that the world is back to front from the Truth. Everybody seemed to be saying things purely to protect their 'self', which is invalid in the first place. The world was in a constant battle of the selves or egos. I did not want to play that game any longer.

As a consequence, I have been living like a hermit. For over ten years now, I have been living in silence (no TV, no radio, no news, I don't even know who our prime minister is). I love the sounds of nature. I love this lifestyle. It is simple and serene. I use the computer for learning, shopping, and converse with Christians, on the Internet, because they are the only ones on earth who are closest to the Truth.

thanks for sharing, and sorry for the lost of a loved one, but glad you overcame in great revelation. and the thumbs up for Christians, on the Internet.
again thanks, and may God bless.

 

[lforrest]

Good thread, I hope this stays edifying.

One of the most basic revelations I've had is that God has been helping me since before I even knew it. I was blinded to his helping hand.

This came about at a time of trouble for me, where I turned to God and read the Bible through in a few days. Jesus taught me quite a few things then.

 

[Helen]

Did you find out what that section is called....I keep forgetting they are even there, I just go by the individual titles of threads lol

Pia..this thread that we are writing in NOW, is the thread of no Debate or even discussions as such.

 

[bbyrd009]

Everybody seemed to be saying things purely to protect their 'self', which is invalid in the first place.

it is this same "self" that most Christians are...caught up with getting to heaven, seems to me.

 

[Helen]

@pia THIS is what was said in the Opening Post.
And so far it is working! Praise the Lord,

This topic will not be a discussion of, or on a particular subject matter, but more of a knowledge base, or listing of thing that one may have discern Spiritually from the Lord over years of time.

Thank you 101G for thinking of this "safe place" for us. ✟

 

[Helen]

it is this same "self" that most Christians are...caught up with getting to heaven, seems to me.

Whoops my friend. THIS thread is for sharing the revelation of spiritual things and precious things that God has revealed to us and taught is in our walk with Him.
Not a place of discussing our opinions on posts.
So consider your head slapped ...

 

[bbyrd009]

THIS thread is for sharing the revelation of spiritual things and precious things that God has revealed to us and taught is in our walk with Him.

oh sorry, thought that was what i was doing lol

 

[Helen]

oh sorry, thought that was what i was doing lol

Well how about sharing a little MORE on that...and what it was that God was teaching you.

And here am I telling you...yet I am still reluctant to risk opening my own heart and sharing my own "God moments"!!

 

[bbyrd009]

Well how about sharing a little MORE on that...and what it was that God was teaching you.

hmm, i'd have to consider how to even expand on that. The part i think of as "me," that is separate from everyone else, is the part that is supposed to die, right; but at the same time it is the part that it seems to me most people are consumed with keeping whole, and getting into "heaven." And both cannot be true.

When you die to self, you no longer worry about the salvation of self;
preoccupation with the salvation of the self = lack of dying to self.

 

[amadeus]

Yes there is..and this it it...101G says this is not a debate, or even discussion thread...but just a sharing thread...
I'm waiting for a few more to step into the water first..before I dip my toe.
I really hope that this thread works.
Share one of your eye opening God moments Amadeus.

They don't usually come to me just like that because I want them to... But God has many times given me things to share, but they are usually in His time and then He gives me what is needed for the moment or for the person or...but I will give a testimony that relates to my whole life today.

My wife and I had had some tight financial situations throughout our marriage, but we had always handled them. Sometimes we had trusted in God, but more often we had just trusted in ourselves. I would work maximum overtime and take on second jobs to get it done. This time that wasn't going to happen. To start with, I had retired from my federal govt. job and was on a fixed income. My wife was already fully disabled and couldn't handle a job.

God took us back (yes, my wife was involved in it). We buried ourselves in Him. We prayed and read the Bible (neither done for about 10 years) and never missed a service.

Very shortly AFTER coming back to God financial trouble hit us as it had never done before. An error in our checkbook caused us to bounce a check. That one bounced check was the beginning of a landslide. To salvage our situation we turned back our new car to the dealer. We were still on the verge of losing our house.

We lived about 15 miles out of town and had no transportation. My wife had severe and chronic asthma, which in spite of medication was not completely under control. If she had an attack, we had no way to get into town. We would have to wait for an ambulance. But...we were trusting God and she never had a severe episode during that time.

A good brother in the Lord was saving money to fix his house. It had a faulty concrete foundation that eventually would ruin or destroy his home. He recognized our need and believed it greater than his own. He found a good operating a car, paid $2000.00 cash for it and gave us the pink slip. God had provided us with transportation.

We were still in danger of losing our home. I went to work helping a tree trimmer and mowing lawns and picking up aluminum cans and doing anything else that a man in his late 50's who had worked a desk job most of his life could find. My wife began to sew for additional extra income. All of those efforts might have done it...but when I went to work helping a man replace the siding on his house, I got physically ill on the job. I knew that I couldn't afford to lose the job so I worked on, but after about two hours, in the boiling hot Oklahoma sun I was on the verge of passing out. I just had to go home and trust in God. I had no other choice.

Finally, we filed bankruptcy. We had held off on this until there was no other recourse. We had spoken to financial counselors and they saw no other way for us.

Remember that all of these difficulties came on us immediately AFTER we had been accepted back by God. Nevertheless, we refused to give up on God and in spite of the impossible financial pressure we never stopped giving a portion of our income to Him.

About 2 or 3 weeks after filing bankruptcy, but before going to court for it, we received a phone call from a private detective in Arizona. He had been searching for my wife in connection with an estate. She had an aunt that she had not seen or heard from since she was a little girl in California over 40 years earlier.

The aunt had died in Kentucky and had no children. Her estate was divided among nieces and nephews including my wife. We advised the bankruptcy trustee about the inheritance and he froze the inheritance to apply it toward our creditors. When the inheritance was received it paid off all of those we filed bankruptcy against and gave us a little beyond that.

It still brings tears to my eyes when I think of how great God is and what He did for us. I love Him too much to turn back now.

So then the eyes to see have come to me in how I live my life and how I serve my God. I made many missteps since that financial disaster, but never have I seriously considered taking my eyes off of Him again.

 

[Helen]

@amadeus Lovely and uplifting testimony . Praise God.

Not counting the initial salvation 'God moment' , and the baptism in the Spirit God-moment....Like most people, I have had many 'milestone revelations' from the Lord. I think one of the greatest early revelations in my life was seeing the depth of the message of grace.
How deep, wide, high and how amazingly great is the Grace of our God...
It came slowly over some years, a nudge here and a nudge there from the Lord.... I struggled with this actually for a few years...(and you know where it lead me! ) Not a spur of the moment thing....I wasn't yet willing to step over the line and totally except all that I believed God was showing me.
It went against so much of the 20 years of my 'church teaching.'
So much to unlearn!
Then one day, I was sitting on my bed reading my bible...and suddenly I began to get a vision...( I had my eyes open) I saw , (as the confirmation to my many prayers and waiting on God for a clear answer) a package high up in the room slowly descending from the ceiling.
A beautifully wrapped package , like any birthday gift ...with a big pink bow on it. It floated down and landed on the bed. ( this is in vision not literal) ..in spirit I opened it gift.
Inside the box was a pair of very soft shoes...I heard the words...
"And having your feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of Peace."
The Good News of Peace.
Obviously I feel on my knees at the awesomeness of all God has done for the world.
None of us just "happened" to be born. It wasn't a happenstance that our egg got fertilized ...we were chosen. There are no accidents in God.
Here we are, and God put each one of us on this earth. He had His Plan from the very begging for us...and at the end, we will see the glory of it all unfold. ✟

 

[amadeus]

@"ByGrace"

Give God all of the glory!

 

[pia]

u I'm reminded of the Lord. Isaiah 53:3

Thank you so much for the reminder.....I adore this part of Isaiah, as I do with many other parts, and it is helpful to be reminded......By you writing this, I was reminded of the 2nd ever actual 'scripture' I was given by the Lord, which was Isa 54:4-10......To this day, when it is at the forefront of my memory, it brings me so much peace and always manages to encourage me, so thank you so much for that ( I hadn't thought on that for a while).
I honestly think this forum would be great, if we could share our experiences with Him, openly and without fear of being ostracized and humiliated by those who are supposed to know better............Imagine how much our beloved Father could get done, if we were in unity of heart and mind ?............I think on that a lot....
Thanks again for your lovely post .......Blessings and peace in Him.........Pia

 

[pia]

Pia..this thread that we are writing in NOW, is the thread of no Debate or even discussions as such.

Oh gosh, do I ever feel silly now lol......Thanks.......So what do you think ? Will it be 'safe' ?.....Not that He ever told us to concern ourselves with such things, but still ? It can be hard at times, knowing who one can 'safely' share something with and who we can't......Some people are very good at coming across as if they know everything, and as we have found out over the years, no one knows everything ! Except Him of course....

 

[pia]

oh sorry, thought that was what i was doing lol

Have you got any moments between you and the Lord you could share with us perhaps ?

 

[pia]

but never have I seriously considered taking my eyes off of Him again.

Thank you so much Amadeus, that is a brilliant testimony of how our wonderful Father can do things and the way you finished this, brought 'happy tears' to my eyes.........Just wonderful !!!!