Rollo Tamasi
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Hey Breadman, I didn't think you'd answer right away.
You have to go to your guru for answers, right?
You have to go to your guru for answers, right?
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The answer is simple...We are not yet "Born of God"....we ARE born of the Spirit.
To keep saying that we cannot sin....does not make it true.
Sin is not ACCOUNTED to us...but every time we miss the mark...it is sin.
To say that we do not sin...make a person look stupid, with fairy dust in their eyes.
The only COVERING that we wear is Christ....nothing of our own doing.
We, in and of ourself , still sin. Period.
As long as we cooperate with God's grace (Matt. 7:21-23, Matt. 23:37, Matt. 25:31–46, Luke 13:34, Rom. 8:28, 2 Cor. 6:1, Rev. 3:15-16) - we WILL dwell in the House of the Lord forever.And I shall dwell in the House of the Lord forever
How did David know it would be forever?
Because I'm NOT the one who believes in that garbage - YOU do.So GREAT, that you couldn't answer it!
Funny.
Time out
I have to go to the dentist
We'll pick this up when I get back
Won't be long
How dense ARE you??
I already explained that to you as I would to a small child.
I said:
Initial salvation.
Maintaining salvation through enduring faith.
Final salvation.
I taught this to 2nd graders preparing for their First Communion - and they ALL got it . . .
Here is what 1 Pet. 1:5 says in CONTEXT, Einstein:That's too bad. You should have taught them the truth.
Salvation is received as a gift from God.
Faith is received as a gift from God.
Gifts received from God are kept by the Power of God...1 Pet 1:5
So you are OSAS, is that correct?As long as we cooperate with God's grace (Matt. 7:21-23, Matt. 23:37, Matt. 25:31–46, Luke 13:34, Rom. 8:28, 2 Cor. 6:1, Rev. 3:15-16) - we WILL dwell in the House of the Lord forever.
I've been asking YOU guys for over 2000 posts to show me where the BIBLE teaches OSAS - and NOBODY has been able to do that . . .
If you're talking about following listing - your failure is an ignorance of not only Scripture - but of its linguistic implications.
Well that's the thing. You're looking at the Gospel through teh wrong lense, works and not grace.
This entire post is such a blessing, and anyone surely, even a ten year old can understand this.....Surely nothing can bring us that wondrous peace and joy if we still think He will reject us....It is a difficult thing to try to live as He asked us to, if we always think we are not enough, that we haven't done enough, that we haven't studied enough and so on....My point being that HE is enough, for now and for all time....The Bible tell us that God was satisfied with His sacrifice, and that He became the propitiation for our ( mankind's) sins....It ought not be as confusing as many make it out to be, nor as burdensome....Nor should it EVER create fear in a person...fear is of the devil, and we are told that perfect Love casts out ALL fear, not some fears, ALL fear......None of this is rocket science but some seem to take joy in making it as difficult as at all possible, as if God would have chosen such a way ?Joy unspeakable and full of glory..
Amen!Easy...either the bible is not true, or you are not truthful. I wonder which...now let me think...
It cannot be both.
The way I see you slashing at BOL with scripture , everyone else here can see that you do still sin. Your whole attitude is sin...you do not "Love your brother ..and you don't count him as a brother, then you do not love or your neighbour as yourself.
Gal 5:22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,gentleness, self-control."
For someone who claims not to sin, you sure do show a lot of hostility and readiness to attack or confront. Not quite what is expected of a sinless christian showing the love of God. Hummmm
If you claim that you do not sin, then you are totally deluded.
You're going to have to explain what the works of the law are because there's a lot of misunderstanding about this.Gal 2:16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith ind Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.
Great post!@Taken
Though we are called to holiness of life Matthew 5:48)and commanded to love the Lord our God with every fibre of our being Matthew 22:36-40, none of us do so perfectly.
The standard is God and we all miss the mark. It would be a grandiose delusion to believe that we can attain the perfection God requires of us.
The idea of perfectionism undermines the idea of Christ’s constant intercession for the believer!!
Hebrews 7:25 tells us that he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. The need for intercession is because sin is apparent in the life of the believer. If we all can reach a point of sinless perfection, there would be no need for our Heavenly Intercessor in heaven!!.
Philippians 3:12-14
"Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."
And you set yourself above that...that you have attained sinlessness???
To reduce sin to nothingness by claiming perfection ultimately call God a liar.
Did we pick this up?Time out
I have to go to the dentist
We'll pick this up when I get back
Won't be long
The LORD IS my shepherd.And I shall dwell in the House of the Lord forever
How did David know it would be forever?