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Personality and Deity are both attributed gloriously to the Son, but they are indeed distinct.No they do not show any such thing. Just as you are not your father, neither is your father you, Jesus is the "only begotten" (uniquely begotten) Son of God, as well as God the Word.
We are baptised because we have faith and a good conscience, not in order to become believers.That is simply an argument, that is refuted by 1 Peter 3:20-21. My understanding is that Jesus applies the blood when we go under the water in His name (confessing Him before men). Going forward in church or in a Crusade is too anonymous impaho, unless you just begin to serve the Lord from there on in and end up confessing Him that way by publicly proclaiming His message.
If the Son was of one substance with the other members of the eternal Godhead, how did He die?In what way is the Godhead one in unity but not in substance?
Yes I agree that it must be a believer's baptism. However, there is an operation of God that takes place within baptism that will come into effect with faith.We are baptised because we have faith and a good conscience, not in order to become believers.
No, we are already cleansed of our sins though faith by the blood of Christ by the eternal Spirit, before we are ever baptised (Hebrews 9.14).Yes I agree that it must be a believer's baptism. However, there is an operation of God that takes place within baptism that will come into effect with faith.
I am not going to argue with you. You have to see it in your own reading/devotional time.No, we are already cleansed of our sins though faith by the blood of Christ by the eternal Spirit, before we are ever baptised (Hebrews 9.14).
I think on this issue we are very far apart indeed.I am not going to argue with you. You have to see it in your own reading/devotional time.
There is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21).
I count three from your perspective. Now I like the equation 1 x 1 x 1 = 1. But 1 + 1 +1 = 1 simply does not fly with me.
Really though, I think it is more like the equation 1 = 1 = 1.
Or, a = 1, b = 1, c = 1, therefore a = b = c = 1.
Deuteronomy 6:4
“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
can anyone explain why this proclamation was so important to the Jews?
That doesn't make any sense in regard to what the Bible says, or what the Athanasian Creed says.@Jane_Doe22,
I would say to you that the substance being spoken of is the Spirit of God. This substance is His singular Person.
Jesus said the 2 greatest commandts we're based on this foundation but I think few today think on what the Shema meansBecause the proclamation was given their Forefathers; men who experienced a close Personal relationship with Their LORD Their God?
In order for the Trinity to be a reality, God would have to be One Person and yet also Three. Because we have a Personal God and therefore our one God is a Person. God is a Spirit (John 4:24). And there is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4).
To me it is very simple; but I don't think you are ready for the truth so I will refrain right now from continuing; except to say that the hypostatic union is a key doctrine for you to understand.
I likewise have no problem with that. But the "Trinity" doctrine involves much more than that: specifying how the three-are-one. Throughout the years I've met folks with a dozen other different ideas on how the three-are-one (such as the one you described) but they are not Trinitarians because they don't agree with the Athanasian Creed's interpretation one how three-are-one. I myself don't agree with the Athanasian's Creed in this regard, and also disagree with it's statement that having a incorrect knowledge of God somehow disqualifies a person from salvation. Salvation is not dependent on man's ability to pass a theology test.("The Father is NOT the Son.
The Father is NOT the Holy Spirit.
The Father is God.
The Son is NOT the Father.
The Son is NOT the Holy Spirit.
The Son is God.
The Holy Spirit is NOT the Father.
The Holy Spirit is NOT the Son.
The Holy Spirit is God.")
Jesus said the 2 greatest commandts we're based on this foundation but I think few today think on what the Shema means
I think we run the risk of following a false Christ if after we hear the truth we reject it. If we do not have truth receptors, we probably are not saved.I likewise have no problem with that. But the "Trinity" doctrine involves much more than that: specifying how the three-are-one. Throughout the years I've met folks with a dozen other different ideas on how the three-are-one (such as the one you described) but they are not Trinitarians because they don't agree with the Athanasian Creed's interpretation one how three-are-one. I myself don't agree with the Athanasian's Creed in this regard, and also disagree with it's statement that having a incorrect knowledge of God somehow disqualifies a person from salvation. Salvation is not dependent on man's ability to pass a theology test.
Let us leave determining who gets salvation in God's hands, and us.
Truth is from God's words. Not men's.I think we run the risk of following a false Christ if after we hear the truth we reject it. If we do not have truth receptors, we probably are not saved.
Granted, but where do you get the idea scripture is man's word when quoted?Truth is from God's words. Not men's.