The Coming Great Apostasy

[bbyrd009]

I didnt know you

so fine, you don't want to address it, I understand. Not interested in your deflection here sorry, I was just suggesting another way to reflect on the matter

 

[Earburner]

Jesus

the contortions believers will go through to avoid understanding "the law is inadequate" and not "irrelevant"

thank God it's so obvious I guess

It's not obvious to the Law keepers!
The "Law Keepers" don't know who they are "married" to, because they are "double minded" and "lukewarm".

 

[bbyrd009]

It's not obvious to the Law keepers!
The "Law Keepers" don't know who they are "married" to, because they are "double minded" and "lukewarm".

the fruit of that tree tastes pretty good, huh?

I'll follow one of your deflections when you can tell me the diff in "under the law" and "keeping the law" wadr, which I note even the Romans have figured out. But tbh if you really believe that Don't be deceived little children is a call to ignore the law then I don't see much point

 

[Phoneman777]

First, you must learn what that context says.
[10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Have YOU KEPT "the letter of the Law" perfectly, every day?
Are you a sinner or are you not?
From your perspective, you will never understand mat.
All you law keepers use James out of context.
From your perspective, you'll never understand Mat. 5:19-20. Through faith, the "least" ARE IN the KoH/KoG.

Oh brother, another one who thinks the context is "nobody can keep the law" when the clear context is "we're going to be judged by the Ten Commandments so we better speak and act like we will be".

Of course, since you Antinomianists refuse to make a full surrender to Christ and allow Him to move into your heart and obey His own law for you and through you, measuring up to the Law of Liberty is for you an impossibility, as it is for all who claim to be "more than conquerors but continually get the Beelzebub beatdown every single time he comes along dangling temptation before their eyes...

 

[Phoneman777]

It's not obvious to the Law keepers!
The "Law Keepers" don't know who they are "married" to, because they are "double minded" and "lukewarm".

Just listen to yourself...you condemn those who love Jesus and keep His commandments as "lukewarm" and "double minded" and praise those who claim to be "married" to Jesus but fornicate with Satan on a daily basis by breaking God's laws.

 

[Earburner]

Just listen to yourself...you condemn those who love Jesus and keep His commandments as "lukewarm" and "double minded" and praise those who claim to be "married" to Jesus but fornicate with Satan on a daily basis by breaking God's laws.

Are you a sinner or are you not? Law Keepers never seem to know, nor do they want to find out.

 

[Phoneman777]

Are you a sinner or are you not? Law Keepers never seem to know, nor do they want to find out.

Do you strive against temptation to the point of blood dripping down out of your pores (Hebrews 12:4)? No? Then please don't lecture me about "no one can keep the law".

 

[Earburner]

Oh brother, another one who thinks the context is "nobody can keep the law" when the clear context is "we're going to be judged by the Ten Commandments so we better speak and act like we will be".

Of course, since you Antinomianists refuse to make a full surrender to Christ and allow Him to move into your heart and obey His own law for you and through you, measuring up to the Law of Liberty is for you an impossibility, as it is for all who claim to be "more than conquerors but continually get the Beelzebub beatdown every single time he comes along dangling temptation before their eyes...

Wrong!! The "royal law" (Law of liberty) is to love God and your neighbors. The LKs don't understand James at all, and will always take the path of the Pharisees.

 

[Earburner]

Do you strive against temptation to the point of blood dripping down out of your pores (Hebrews 12:4)? No? Then please don't lecture me about "no one can keep the law".

Nice side step!

 

[Earburner]

Let's try again:
Are you a sinner or are you not? Law Keepers never seem to know, nor do they want to find out.

 

[Phoneman777]

Wrong!! The "royal law" (Law of liberty) is to love God and your neighbors. The LKs don't understand James at all, and will always take the path of the Pharisees.

Do not the first Four Commandments define what it is to love God?
Do not the last Six Commandments define what it is to love our neighbor?

Of course, Antinomianists don't want to love God because what is desired are gods of money, authority, and of course, self, as well as idols of clothing, celebrities, their own gospel....

 

[Phoneman777]

Let's try again:
Are you a sinner or are you not? Law Keepers never seem to know, nor do they want to find out.

I'm what the Bible calls a "just man". Now, have you ever sweat as it were great drops of blood striving against sin and temptation?

 

[Phoneman777]

Nice side step!

It's a question. And it's still on the table: have you ever resisted unto blood striving against sin and temptation?

 

[Earburner]

If you are a sinner, then you do know what "the will of Him" is, who sent Jesus.
Therefore, you should also know what the "work of God" is for us to do.
OK, now please explain how it is that the "least" are in the KoG- Mat. 5:19-20

 

[Earburner]

I'm what the Bible calls a "just man". Now, have you ever sweat as it were great drops of blood striving against sin and temptation?

I, as a member of the "least", am ALSO a " just man".
See Mat. 5:20.

 

[Earburner]

Do not the first Four Commandments define what it is to love God?
Do not the last Six Commandments define what it is to love our neighbor?

Of course, Antinomianists don't want to love God because what is desired are gods of money, authority, and of course, self, as well as idols of clothing, celebrities, their own gospel....

Now you have to discern the difference between "the spirit of the Law" as opposed to "the letter of the Law".
For all who seek to be justified by the righteousness of the Law, and not by the Righteousness of Christ, the sacrificial blood of Christ has NO EFFECT (is not applied) to them. gal. 5:4
Again, see Mat. 5:20

 

[bbyrd009]

Now you have to discern the difference between "the spirit of the Law" as opposed to "the letter of the Law".
For all who seek to be justified by the righteousness of the Law, and not by the Righteousness of Christ, the sacrificial blood of Christ has NO EFFECT (is not applied) to them. gal. 5:4
Again, see Mat. 5:20

only he is not seeking to be justified by the law, so now what? You gonna just change the subject again? Do you think you can run forever? Run from God?

1 John 3:7 Lexicon: Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;

Matthew 5:19 Lexicon: "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

now explain to me again how you want to be one of the least in the kingdom

 

[bbyrd009]

There is an obvious difference in Keep the Law and Under the Law, and if your teacher cannot explain the diff then you better run imo. As soon as they deflect like can be witnessed here, run. Neither a Legalist nor a Lawless will go anywhere near it, makes a great test imo

 

[Earburner]

There is an obvious difference in Keep the Law and Under the Law, and if your teacher cannot explain the diff then you better run imo. As soon as they deflect like can be witnessed here, run.

It's plain enough! If you willfully and purposely set out to Keep the Law verbatim, through your flesh, then you have disregarded the Righteousness of Christ, which is by faith and is not of the Law!
And for all who do, they have "fallen from grace".
IOws, you are no longer under the Blood of Christ's sacrifice, but have purposely put yourself under the Law, in order to obtain your own form of righteousness.
Repent from your willful Law Keeping, and return to the One you are married to!
Iows, stop being an adulteress towards God.

 

[Earburner]

only he is not seeking to be justified by the law, so now what? You gonna just change the subject again? Do you think you can run forever? Run from God?

1 John 3:7 Lexicon: Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;

Matthew 5:19 Lexicon: "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

now explain to me again how you want to be one of the least in the kingdom