In the Spirit there is no sin. But it is difficult to remain in the Spirit.
True. If we weren't literally covered in the flesh it wouldn't be difficult at all to remain in the Spirit.
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In the Spirit there is no sin. But it is difficult to remain in the Spirit.
You are not understanding salvation. Salvation is not found in us....but in Christ. And we come in and out of the Spirit. Like breathing in and out (in the macro sense).Disagree. Salvation is not a revolving door.
You are not understanding salvation. Salvation is not found in us....but in Christ. And we come in and out of the Spirit. Like breathing in and out (in the macro sense).
Well I dunno about "any" there, but fwiw I am the guy who builds those protocols (for unbiased sampling) for accurate algorithms, the hardest part of the job imo. If you get "none" as a return for "any" imo that would be significant even if biased tho.Plus no poll has any value if populations are not correctly selected and the results not properly weighted.
All who die without Grace are eternally damned, right? If we have to go back to God for a filling of Grace, it sounds like you are saying we lose that Grace everytime we sin, and forfeit our salvation on a consistent basis. To which I must disagree.
Ha well but who is this "our" that so easily testifies of themselves, and does not apparently contemplate what Scripture has to say on the matter? Surely ppl who would condemn psychedelic mushrooms out the other side of their mouths and think to debate the meaning of "testify of yourself," yes? Twice the sons of hell, with seven worse spirits?Our spirits are joined to Christ the Holy Spirit and wash clean.
Salvation is not a revolving door.
i like the revolving door illustration, quite apt imoYou are not understanding salvation. Salvation is not found in us....but in Christ. And we come in and out of the Spirit. Like breathing in and out (in the macro sense).
John 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
Your words are "revolving door"...which comes from your lack of understanding and all too close relationship with the temporal world. I said...in and out of the Spirit.
Does that mean we come in and out of salvation? Well, that is YOUR definition of salvation...that somehow you own it...which you don't. It is the Lord's.
Isnt Grace the unmerited favor of God?
If we sin a sin according to death...then we fall out of the Spirit (grace). Read 1 John
i like the revolving door illustration, quite apt imo
This is a specific sin though. Not every sin is a sin leading to death.
Episkopos' interpretation of John 10:9 is unique. However, after considering it, I've found the idea of going in and out to be flawed. Once we are in Christ, I dont see why Christ would want is to "go out" of Him and then come back in over and again. Wouldn't He want us to simply remain in Him? "Remain in me, and I will remain in you" John 15:4
well, if we are being called to remain there that infers that not remaining is quite possible I guess rightOnce we are in Christ, I dont see why Christ would want is to "go out" of Him and then come back in over and again. Wouldn't He want us to simply remain in Him? "Remain in me, and I will remain in you" John 15:4
This is a specific sin though. Not every sin is a sin leading to death.
Episkopos' interpretation of John 10:9 is unique. However, after considering it, I've found the idea of going in and out to be flawed. Once we are in Christ, I dont see why Christ would want is to "go out" of Him and then come back in over and again. Wouldn't He want us to simply remain in Him? "Remain in me, and I will remain in you" John 15:4
I wouldn't be too sure, any sin we contemplate doing first and then do might meet that description?This is a specific sin though. Not every sin is a sin leading to death.
however note that those who teach that we do not have to keep the law will also agree with you there, see, so we obv still have a disconnect?I agree. God is not in a swivel chair. We are abiding or we are not. It is finished and we are a grateful and forgiven people. He knows His own and His own know Him. We are NOT perfect but, we are becoming closer in His Spirit...if we indeed are His. Sin will not fit the true follower of Christ and if one thinks they have licence to sin then, IMHO-how can they truly be saved? Wheres the fruit?
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@CoreIssueWell I dunno about "any" there, but fwiw I am the guy who builds those protocols (for unbiased sampling) for accurate algorithms, the hardest part of the job imo. If you get "none" as a return for "any" imo that would be significant even if biased tho.
It sounds like your saying that you don’t sin.People have to figure this out. Either Jesus has sin in Him...meaning we can abide IN Christ and still sin...OR In Him is NO sin and we are safe there as a refuge from the things of this world which are of sin.
But you can't have it both ways to the advantage of the flesh. If we sin it is because we are walking in our own strength...which just failed us. The solution is to go back to live IN Christ.
It sounds like your saying that you don’t sin.
lol, ok. So you say anyway. Not saying I know, but we eat, and wipe your mouth, and say you have done nothing wrong too, so no offense if I suggest you are deceived I hope. Generally speaking I guess the more one denies it, the truer it prolly isI have gone long periods without sin
lol, ok. So you say anyway. Not saying I know, but we eat, and wipe your mouth, and say you have done nothing wrong too, so no offense if I suggest you are deceived I hope
lol, ok. So you say anyway. Not saying I know, but we eat, and wipe your mouth, and say you have done nothing wrong too, so no offense if I suggest you are deceived I hope. Generally speaking I guess the more one denies it, the truer it prolly is