Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

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Lady Crosstalk

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"we" who?
"We" who testify of ourselves, or we who commend ourselves to each other?

"We" as in "we who have faith in Christ". What did you think I meant? What is the purpose of your second line? Is it to be just as offensive and obnoxious as you can be?
 

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Ha but who is this "we" that you and Hitler are both apparently members of?

Many will cry Lord Lord

Hitler probably said lots of things that others have said (only he said them in German, more than likely). Is there some reason for this irrational attack?
 

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Jews = those who subscribe to Judaism. They are not a race.
According to the Bible the Jews (Israelites or Hebrews) are A DISTINCT ETHNIC GROUP. A "race" for all practical purposes. They are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. They consist of the twelve tribes of Israel, and that will be true for eternity.

While unbelieving Jews subscribe to Judaism, believing Jews are called "Hebrew Christians", and we have the epistle to the Hebrews to prove that. Today, they also call themselves Messianic Jews (believing on Jesus the Messiah).

Your Anti-Semitism does not allow you to accept what the Bible says, which means that you are blind to the truth.
 

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The 144,000 were from Israel; the innumerable multitude from all nations. Because of this comparison—144,000 from Israel on one hand, and an innumerable multitude of converts from among the Gentiles on the other—it seems clear that the 144,000 were converts from Israel, Israel in the literal sense of the word.

Ralph Woodrow. His Truth is Marching On.

You assume a lot of strange things.
 
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According to the Bible the Jews (Israelites or Hebrews) are A DISTINCT ETHNIC GROUP. A "race" for all practical purposes. They are the direct descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. They consist of the twelve tribes of Israel, and that will be true for eternity.

While unbelieving Jews subscribe to Judaism, believing Jews are called "Hebrew Christians", and we have the epistle to the Hebrews to prove that. Today, they also call themselves Messianic Jews (believing on Jesus the Messiah).

Your Anti-Semitism does not allow you to accept what the Bible says, which means that you are blind to the truth.
God told Abraham, in Isaac your seed (Jesus, according to Paul) would be called. And when Israel came out of Egypt, they were a mixed multitude, all circumcised, all Israel.
 

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Hitler probably said lots of things that others have said (only he said them in German, more than likely). Is there some reason for this irrational attack?
Well no offense, but is there some reason you are avoiding the question?

See bc the "we" that I find most reliably described in the Bible seems to be "twice the sons of hell" and "seven worse spirits" wadr. These will surely testify of themselves and engage in commending themselves to each other, don't you think? Prolly in with a fair amount of saying that they know, etc?
 
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Lady Crosstalk

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That's the one thing I hear from rapturist is the Church not mentioned after Rev 3
Who do tell are the saints?

Old Testament believers are also referenced as being saints but the word typically comes out "faithful" from the English translators. The word in question is qaddiysh in Hebrew and it is from the same root word as "holy" in Hebrew. And that is what "saint" means--holy or set apart for God's use. There are a number of places where the same word is used to describe believers in the OT. It could easily reference believing Jews in the Tribulation--(AKA as the "Time of Jacob's Trouble"). Of course, it could also refer to those Gentiles who come to faith in Jesus during the Tribulation as well. These believers--both Jewish and Gentile are not part of the Church which will be taken to heaven before the Tribulation. The Church is not appointed to God's wrath.
 

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Well no offense, but is there some reason you are avoiding the question?

See bc the "we" that I find most reliably described in the Bible seems to be "twice the sons of hell" and "seven worse spirits" wadr. These will surely testify of themselves and engage in commending themselves to each other, don't you think? Prolly in with a fair amount of saying that they know, etc?

What utter nonsense. Jesus says, "Come, let's be going." at Gethsemane. He could have easily said, "We must leave now." And WHAT QUESTION WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ANSWER? I know you love to be cryptic and all, but you are not helping whatever your argument is by being nasty to other Christians.