Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

[Dave L]

Can't remember huh?
You have been given plenty of scripture evidence, with about 5 videos of teachings using scripture . Are you too lazy to watch them? or afraid they would discredit your nasty attacks on the brethren who believe in the rapture?

The problem is you do not have any direct scripture support for what you claim. This makes you a false prophet and a deceiver.

 

[Waiting on him]

Then you might ask yourself why none of those are xlated rapture, but instead "caught up," and go ask a black guy what "caught up" really means I guess.

Or go find me one "harpazo" translated "rapture" from Scripture, which we both already know you can't do, and pls stop tagging me unless you can do so, ty

The only thing I can see that comes close to the word rapture, is when Christ in MATTHEW says the violent take it by force.

 

[CoreIssue]

How so? Same 726 harpázō.

Snatching someone out of a fire but staying in the same location is not the same as snatching them from the earth to heaven.

Both are snatched, but in different contexts.

 

[Waiting on him]

The merciful will receive mercy. Don’t recall Jesus asking to be snatched away.
“Give them what they deserve”??? Stephen? Paul? Any Christian in the written word??
Why is this on the hearts of so many Christians today?
Why such a lack of mercy?

 

[Helen]

@Waiting on him

 

[tzcho2]

The problem is you do not have any direct scripture support fro what you claim. This makes you a false prophet and a deceiver.

That is the lamest thing you've said yet, and you've said some pretty lame things.

 

[Waiting on him]

@Waiting on him

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Can no one see the correlation between Stephens cry for mercy, and the fact Paul was his oppressor?

 

[Helen]

Can no one see the correlation between Stephens cry for mercy, and the fact Paul was his oppressor?

Some eyes are not open because someone else fed them a message which was/is not the gospel of Christ.

Bless you.

 

[bbyrd009]

Another one who can't keep track of his own statements, or have we gone back in time?
When you have to keep repeating old comments that have been addressed several times, like you're just recycling them, as if stuck in a backwards time loop.
Any intelligent discourse on this topic has been lost a long time ago , if it ever existed in this thread to begin with.

Only you keep posting without addressing the points, hmm.

 

[bbyrd009]

The only thing I can see that comes close to the word rapture, is when Christ in MATTHEW says the violent take it by force.

And that strikes you as the same sense of Rapture that Scripture plainly translates everywhere else but at harpazo? So then "the violent take it by force" is a good thing now, right

 

[Waiting on him]

And that strikes you as the same sense of Rapture that Scripture plainly translates everywhere else but at harpazo? So then "the violent take it by force" is a good thing now, right

Brother I guess that would depend on ones concept of what a good thing is.

 

[bbyrd009]

Brother I guess that would depend on ones concept of what a good thing is.

Ok, well fwiw I suggest any of these examples,
Bible Search: Rapture
But bam go with "harpazo" anywhere you find it xlated "rapture" I guess ok

and imo I would at least reflect upon the spiritual def of "caught up," which any black person can enlighten one on

 

[bbyrd009]

The problem is you do not have any direct scripture support fro what you claim. This makes you a false prophet and a deceiver.

That is the lamest thing you've said yet, and you've said some pretty lame things.

no Scripture in there either huh.

 

[CoreIssue]

That is NOT what I said. The Jews will be only a part of Israel during the Millennial Kingdom! God will bring the rest of the tribes into the Land--He knows exactly who they are and where they are "scattered among the nations". Those who make it into the Millennial Kingdom will ALL be believers in Jesus Messiah whether they are Jew or Gentile.

The Bible doesn't say that. It says those who do not take the mark of the beast will enter the MK.

That does not mean they are believers, at least yet.

 

[CoreIssue]

no Scripture in there either huh.

Gotta say you have achieved a first, you have me agreeing with Dave now lol. I can't recall ever attempting to communicate with someone as willfully blind as you are tbh, and I left off expecting any Scripture from you weeks ago myself. You ordained too? Imo that level of stupid usually requires a doctorate lol

Someday you may slip and also know what religion you are.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

The Bible doesn't say that. It says those who do not take the mark of the beast will enter the MK.

That does not mean they are believers, at least yet.

That is not what we were discussing. We were discussing who would be granted the Land in the "age to come". Those taking the Mark of the Beast seem to have been singled out as being especially condemned. It is well-understood that those taking the Mark of the Beast (whatever that turns out to be) will NOT be included in the Millennial Kingdom.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Spiritual death, right

That is tough. Romans 8:20-21 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, [21] Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Vanity and the bondage of corruption...delivered into the glorious liberty of the children of God. I’ll try not to ramble. He said to set our affection higher on the New Jerusalem, on the world to come and not this one. That we are just passing through. At the same time, the earth in the bondage of corruption is promised deliverance. Same as the body. You are pointing at delivernace from Spiritual death instead of physical because ‘immortality’ you caution at, yeah? But part of the corruption is linked to physical death and man’s quest to consume all he can before his time is up and someone else enjoys his hard earned labour. We watch wrinkles and decay and deterioration of our bodies and the earth also under the bondage of corruption. All are promised deliverance from death. There is the mention of where moth do not eat and destroy. But then I also pause at even calling decay bad since it can also be good. Only God knows. Bondage of corruption...without vanity, sin and death. Evil, death, and cursing swallowed up in victory by Life, good, and blessing. What is the vail covering eyes so they see not?

Do heed your warning though at “immortality”. Been thinking about all man does to obtain “immortality” of their god(s). In ancient times breaking the jaws of corpses and shoving things down their throats in belief of a safe passage into an afterlife and immortality. Thought a lot about it actually since you mentioned it as a possible fear of death...which in itself is vanity. 1 Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Can say I have wanted to be wise. Can say I have wanted to eternal and immortal. Can’t say I have ever wanted to be invisible. Kind of get, maybe, your hinting at man’s long time quest to be AS God...don’t know the answer to your intital question.

 

[CoreIssue]

That is not what we were discussing. We were discussing who would be granted the Land in the "age to come". Those taking the Mark of the Beast seem to have been singled out as being especially condemned. It is well-understood that those taking the Mark of the Beast (whatever that turns out to be) will NOT be included in the Millennial Kingdom.

Okay. Per the Bible it is Israel and is only for Israel.

At the second coming it says all of Israel will believe. So there is no distinction between believing Israel and the Israel of the MK.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Okay. Line the Bible discusses is Israel and is only for Israel.

At the second coming it says all of Israel will believe. So there is no distinction between believing Israel and the Israel of the MK.

Please read Ezekiel chapters 37-48. It will quickly become apparent that the Land of Israel will be for Israel--all 12 Tribes.

 

[CoreIssue]

Please read Ezekiel chapters 37-48. It will quickly become apparent that the Land of Israel will be for Israel--all 12 Tribes.

You quoted me saying that.

The problem is you do not have any direct scripture support fro what you claim. This makes you a false prophet and a deceiver.

Says the man who paraphrases the Bible into what he wants it to say versus what it actually was.

Who does exactly what he accuses others, being never actually copies and pastes a verse.