bbyrd009
Groper
- Nov 30, 2016
- 33,943
- 12,081
- 113
- Faith
- Christian
- Country
- United States Minor Outlying Islands
do you happen to know what Didymus reps?John 20[25] The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe
interesting connection, but does not reply to the post, either Q in the post, why not?As I said: Thomas knows! Therefore do we also!!
John 20[25] The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
Col. 2[13] And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
[14] Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
How do you think...arg, how do you think the episode of Jesus literal hands being nailed to the cross--that you can't find, Bc it doesn't exist, not an accident, surely--might relate to nailing handwriting to His cross?
you might note that you are invoking Thomas...in a way that would surely make him turn over in his grave, so to speak? Thomas required evidence, and would not have faith based upon the word of even an Apostle, nor would he even trust his Two Eyes, see, and put my finger into the print of the nails, which "hand" is not so hard but "finger" maybe takes...a minute, fingers do a couple diff things, so what root for finger there, hmm, but the point right now is wouldnt ol' Thomas--the only Thomas in the Bible btw, wasn't even a name then!--maybe be um looking at that askance?
i'd like to...ha, but i simply can't right now, here. You would think i was lying, and that interp virtually requires two who can hear at least enough to develop some of the finer points. Kind of like maybe the reveal up there on invoking Thomas, which btw i know yours is generally accepted, etc, even encouraged in a literal reading.
But...that reveal is an obvious one, as soon as someone else points it out, see, which i first heard it the exact same way you are, by saying what you just said. But the other one is um just on a diff level, and believe it or not we have not even started on the thrusting fingers into sides and putting fingers into nail-prints...you just wouldn't "believe" me, and i wouldn't blame you. Thomas means Twin (tome, cutting, cleaving; atom)
"
...because of his dubiosity about his colleagues' enthusiasm concerning the resurrected Christ, tradition has dubbed him Doubting Thomas. What tradition was slow to pick up on is that Thomas was under standing orders by Christ to not believe when people reported a Messiah sighting (MATTHEW 24:23-26).
When Jesus shows himself to Thomas too, he doesn't in any way rebuke him but calls him blessed for having seen him (JOHN 20:29). Jesus also calls blessed those who somehow believe in him through a process that involves experiencing him but not seeing him. It has nothing to do with believing enthusiastic folks who spread rumors..." via the Abarim