SovereignGrace
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God did not elect certain individuals for salvation.
Wow!
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God did not elect certain individuals for salvation.
Unless a person has a clear biblical belief about the Godhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) he knows nothing. You, my friend, confuse the Father with the Son, and the Son with the Spirit. You have been adding to spiritual confusion.WE KNOW THIS.
LOL! Just wanted to show everyone how many times this false gospelizer talked of "man" in the post above. "God" was used much less and was far between.
Maybe the poster will get the point from that, and Bible, but it is highly doubtful.
Yes, we get it, you were rewarded heaven after you jumped through a hoop to get yourself chosen (elected.)
Glory to yourself! Congrats! YOU DID IT! WOOT! WOOT! WOOT! to YOU!!!!!!! Look what you did to get God's attention! You did it SO WELL, he ELECTED YOU, because of YOU!!!! You're AWESOME!
Sad thing is it's not Biblical.
Here is the Biblical side of it: 1 Corinthians 1:26-31. You've excluded yourself from that via your boasting in self. You do not even begin to perceive the grace of God, because you claim to have earned it, and you do not even begin to understand the Gospel of Christ!
More made up nonsense by you, and not one Scripture.
Therefore it is nothing but a myth, fable and tale.
Why does it surprise you that God elects no one for salvation? He would be contradicting Himself if He did, and that is inconsistent with who God is. There would be no point in posting the relevant Scriptures, since you would simply ignore them.Wow!
Are you going to answer or just dodge like everyone else?
Make no mistake...this is not a “Christian” forum. I have found very few “Christians” on here.
I am in the process of demonstrating that right now with you, mainly because you are seemingly dodging a very important question about the Ephesians.
It’s nothing personal I’m sure everybody on here is descent and I know some are sincere but they are sincerely wrong and have not obeyed the gospel. Most just spout Billy Graham, faith only doctrine and then others want me to believe they are the “elect”. They are special.
So preacher, did you or did not choose to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ? If you did, then you too did what others did. But if you did not, then you need to go back to square one....You on the other hand believe as others believe God chose you because of what you did...
Ok. GoodWE KNOW THIS.
Joshua 24:14 "Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD.
Joshua 24:15 "And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Joshua 24:16 "And the people answered and said, God forbid that we should forsake the LORD, to serve other gods;
Joshua 24:17 "For the LORD our God, he [it is] that brought us up and our fathers out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage, and which did those great signs in our sight, and preserved us in all the way wherein we went, and among all the people through whom we passed:
serve him in sincerity and in truth? John 4:23 "But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 "God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
if the Father "SEEK" these then they are not already chosen. but is they called but not yet elected? let's see. Acts 2:40 "And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation". supportive scripture,
Zechariah 2:6 "Ho, ho, [come forth], and flee from the land of the north, saith the LORD: for I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heaven, saith the LORD.
Zechariah 2:7 "Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest [with] the daughter of Babylon.
Zechariah 2:8 "For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.
Zechariah 2:9 "For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me.
PICJAG.
i get tired of this idea that God selects individuals for salvation. These are called “the elect”.
There is not a person on here that can PROVE they are one of the elect. You can’t demonstrate anything physically. You can’t point to anything in the Bible that proves that you personally have been selected. You can only point to generic passages talking about election. And in those passages there is NOTHING that points directly to you.
So, I want ALL those who think God chose you for election to please stand up and PROVE IT!!!
Are you “in Christ”? If so what did you do to get there? God doesn’t just PUT people “in Christ”. Obedience is required.All in Christ are chosen by God according to his purpose, according to nothing good, and according to grace, it was not earned or deserved. Nothing special about them.
You on the other hand believe as others believe God chose you because of what you did, that you were better than others and out of your own love for God chose him. While spiritually dead and unable to do so. This is not the Gospel, and it isn't grace. It's meritorious salvation. In conclusion it's a rejection of truth, a rejection of God's ways, and a rejection of the Gospel. It is a loathing of God, his ways, his revealed truth in favor of self. Then you not only do this, but you mock, ridicule and blaspheme God and his electing grace. You, like other alleged believers stopped following Christ at about John 6:66, not liking his truth.
But, aren't you all so special? You all did it your way. Congrats!
We can prove today who are the elect. I believe one can be sure of their salvation. I believe one can know if they are one of the elect or not. Only the elect are entered into the race. You have to enter the race before you can run.THE DAY will prove who are the elect and who are not.
Until then “We run the race ...”, and stay focused upon The Prize...our Lord Jesus Christ.
The Day will reveal the rest .
(Smile)Unless a person has a clear biblical belief about the Godhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) he knows nothing. You, my friend, confuse the Father with the Son, and the Son with the Spirit. You have been adding to spiritual confusion.
@Enoch111Unless a person has a clear biblical belief about the Godhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) he knows nothing. You, my friend, confuse the Father with the Son, and the Son with the Spirit. You have been adding to spiritual confusion.
It is statements like the one above that makes Christianity into a joke. Nobody feels they have to prove anything. They can just state they are saved, chosen by God and don’t have to prove it. Just take my word for it. I am “in Christ”. I am one of the elect. Why? Because I said so and you can’t question me.
Nothing but a joke.
Not amazed at who liked your statement, nor that you made it.It is statements like the one above that makes Christianity into a joke. Nobody feels they have to prove anything. They can just state they are saved, chosen by God and don’t have to prove it. Just take my word for it. I am “in Christ”. I am one of the elect. Why? Because I said so and you can’t question me.
Nothing but a joke.
"Elected by God" AFTER they are saved, and for specific reason.All saved are elected by God, according to his purpose, calling and will.
Why does it surprise you that God elects no one for salvation? He would be contradicting Himself if He did, and that is inconsistent with who God is. There would be no point in posting the relevant Scriptures, since you would simply ignore them.
I do not have to deny the Bible, since the Gospel is clearly stated in the Bible, and God offers the gift of eternal life to "whosoever" will take of the Water of Life. Indeed, both the Spirit and the Bride urge everyone to come.Because you have to deny the bible to make such an outlandish, foolish, and unbiblical claim...
What a crazy thing to say.Ever consider that it's not your business? The servants answer to their master, and not to you.