You would have to begin to forsake salvation by works and put your faith in Jesus Christ alone for your salvation (Galatians 3:14)
The moment you switched over to salvation by works and stopped relying on the grace of God, the Holy Spirit very likely left you. Actually, God knew that you would switch over from salvation by grace through faith to salvation by works and very likely never sealed you in the first place; because He knew that you would leave off of trusting in Him for your salvation and switch over to trusting in your own works to save you.
What exactly does it mean to put my faith in Jesus Christ alone?
Does it mean I should give up doing good deeds because then the Holy Spirit will likely leave me if I DO the good deeds?
And God looks into the future and acts accordingly?
He doesn't go moment by moment?
Do you realize the ramifications of this statement?
It means that some babies that are born are going straight to hell
because God foreknew that they were not going to accept Him.
You have your theology very confused.
It causes theological problems.
BTW, I like what Jesus said.
He said that we are His friends if we follow His commandments.
That means there are commandments to follow.
And I will follow them.
You are free to do good deeds or bad deeds,,,,Jesus will decide our fate...
NOT YOU.
Actually, it is not OSAS that I believe in, but POTS. I believe this based on 1 John 2:17.
I have no idea what POTS is. It seems many of us make up our very own theories about God, and your is based on 1 John 2:17
1 John 2:17
17The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.
YOU do the will of God?
You just got thru telling me if I depend on my good deeds then I must be lost...and yet YOU are depending on doing the will of God??
Does God will you to do evil deeds?
IF you're obeying God, are you sure you still have the Holy Spirit?
You told me the Holy Spirit probably left me when I switched to doing good deeds.
You are rather confused.
3 John 1:11 and all of 3 John.
The fact that you think I might believe differently now indicates to me that you also believe that there is a difference in the message that we might get from different Bibles when we have the full understanding of what they teach as a whole...and therefore my contention that having different translations brings division to the body of Christ concerning doctrine indeed has merit. btw, the NASB teaches damnable heresy...I wouldn't touch one of those bibles with a ten foot pole.
You think too many things of me that are not right.
You should stop thinking.
What is heretical about the NASB?
The reason I told you to read the N.T. in a different version is to SHOW YOU that your ideas would NOT change.
The bible doesn't save us...
Jesus does.
Except that the potency of the gospel is found in the understanding of the true grace of God...and therefore legalism will reduce the potency of what the holy scriptures teach. Since grace is what saves and legalism is spiritual poison, I do not recommend continuing to read a bible that teaches you legalism as salvation.
Remember that we are regenerated and renewed, not by works of righteousness which we have done...and therefore salvation through legalism will only bring you up on empty.
What is legalism?
Is it, for instance, a person such as yourself that seems to know who is saved and who isn't?
Which bibles save and which do not?
One who believes good deeds are a hinderance to our faith?
I think YOU are the legalist here since you have so many rules to follow if one wants to be saved.
My only rule is to be IN CHRIST.
I have no problem understanding any of those verses. All you have to do is ask the Holy Spirit what He means by them, and read the verses in their context so you can get the meaning of the surrounding verses; which will help you to understand the verses in question.
Which verse would those be JBF?
Have you neglected to exegete my verses again?
So you'r one of those liberals...you deny the veracity of the word of the Lord as we have it given to us today.
However, I would say that 2 Timothy 3:16-17 both contradicts and refutes your pov.
You're thinking too much again.
Why not just reply to my posts?
(Did I say scripture was NOT inspired by God?)
It's inspired by Him.
He just didn't type it out Himself.
Do you know the difference...
The only part Mary had in our salvation is that she bore our Saviour in her womb...
Unfortunately, much of the Catholic church teaches that she is a co-redemptress with Christ; that she is ultimately also a Saviour alongside of Christ. And this is simply not a scriptural concept...the holy scripture contradicts it in 1 Timothy 2:5.
My position in the debate is the kjv-superior position (not kjv-only); because I do feel that other translations (while they ought not to be held as authoritative) can help us in our understanding if we are having trouble with the kjv's archaic language.
There are reasons for holding the kjv to be authoritative over and above other translations.
A new Christian will do just fine reading an old-fashioned kjv.
Churches that only allow the kjv probably do so because the pastor communicates from it and if the parishioners are reading a different version, there can be miscommunication.
Not to mention other versions are watered-down and therefore if you read them on your own time you are very likely to become malnoiurished spiritually.
Example: how in Romans 8:1 and Romans 11:6, the last half of both verses is entirely taken out in other versions. Or, how the whole of Jesus' words in Luke 9:55-56, and the whole of the statement in 1 John 5:7 (the johannine comma) are completely annihilated in some versions. Things like this happen all over the place, a word here, a phrase there...it amounts to a lack of potency that can even affect the salvation of the reader.
1. I can tell you for a fact that kids have enough problems understanding the bible without handing them one that needs to be translated into modern English first.
I think the above was for another member.
Romans 8:1
What changes? In other places it says that we walk after the flesh and not the spirit.
Also is you look at the bottom of that page, it'll list 5 items that were in the KJ and not in some ancient manuscripts.
Perhaps we just know more today?? And that is why some sentences are left out?
Romans 11:6 just repeats .... again, makes no difference.
Luke 9:55-56 some bibles have this in brackets...which means it was NOT in some manuscripts.
1 John 5:7.9 this is different....
Do you know WHY there are different manuscripts?
How could we know FOR SURE which ones are the correct ones?
