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Who makes desolate?
Matthew 23:38 KJV
[38] Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Tecarta Bible
Think of hiroshima.
The sky ascending like a scroll being roller together.The earthquake.
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Who makes desolate?
Matthew 23:38 KJV
[38] Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Tecarta Bible
Yep! Antiochus Epiphanes, and his "host" (army of men) did all that against the sanctuary and "the holy people", aka "the host of Heaven", which was the army of Israel under Mattathias, and then Judas Maccabeus, who cleansed/restored the sanctuary.I would like to point out one thing to everyone.The abomination that causrs desolation is not something performed or done by a singular person.
It is the armed forces who set up the abomination of desolstion at the time of the end.
Daniel 11:31 NIV: "His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
When your at war and you are attempting to destroy your enemies and you want to kill everyone there ,you use a weapon at will cause desolation (without inhabitant).
I would also like to point out,the king of the north does not order his armed forces to place the abomination of desplation untill after the king of the south has atacked his armed forces
Daniel 11:44 NIV: But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many.
When you want to kill many people,you order your armed forces to use the abomination that causes desolation.
Yep! Antiochus Epiphanes, and his "host" (army of men) did all that against the sanctuary and "the holy people", aka "the host of Heaven", which was the army of Israel under Mattathias, and then Judas Maccabeus, who cleansed/restored the sanctuary.
Today, the Jews celebrate that memory by observing Hanukkah.
Either you don't know that, or you choose to deny it, by your own way of going through ignorance and misinformation.
You still don't understand Daniel.
Keep studying, and learn that ALL OF the 70 weeks, the 1290 days and the 2300 days HAVE BEEN FULFILLED!!
Do you live on another planet or something like a rogue asteroid, hurtling through space?So you believe the armed forces are able to abolish the sacrifice made by Christ?
You have much faith in those armed forces.
Do you live on another planet or something like a rogue asteroid, hurtling through space?
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You were talking about a physical building of a Temple, being built in Jerusalem. That false dream of nothingness has nothing to do with the Sacrifice of Christ.
You are trying to marry the two Covenants.
The Old is GONE!! We are now in God's NEW Covenant through His Son Jesus!
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It is evident that you don't comprehend Daniel 9:27 and who the "he" is, that is being spoken of there.
Read the history of it. He desolated and then trampled upon the sanctuary, and also trodden underfoot the city, and the Jews!!Antichus killed a pig.
He made nothing desolate.
And yes,Im familiar with the pharisees doctrn you believe in
Read the history of it. He desolated and then trampled upon the sanctuary, and also trodden underfoot the city, and the Jews!!
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Call it what you like. The truth of that history stands on its own accord about that event, of which evidently was to be remembered through Hanukkah, of which you seem to deny also.
If then it will be destroyed, you don't think that there shall be severe retaliation from those who worship there. I am aware that if things don't slow down in that area, we will be seeing those 4 bound angels in the Euphrates River (region) being unleashed soon.I never said a temple would be built in jerusalem and i never said anyone was going to kill an,animal.
If im not mistaken theres already a physical building sitting there and im sure it will be destroyed.
Unbelieving Jews (those who do not believe on Jesus the Messiah) sincerely and mistakenly believe that their *true Messiah* will come in the near future and that there must be a temple in Jerusalem when he comes. They are following the instructions in the Torah and the Tanakh for rebuilding that temple. Of course God does not desire their unbelief, but that's the way it is. Some Christians simply cannot see how prophecy will be fulfilled. And yes, the high priest did have a crown of gold.
Are you saying that the prophecies in Daniel, about that "little horn" of the 3rd beast, are not prophecies at all, and therefore according to you, they mean nothing?He killed a pig and offerd it to nothing.
The jews were offended and went to war with him.That was it.
He made nothing desolate.
The pharisees intetpreted it as scripture and began thier sect.
Are you saying that the prophecies in Daniel, about that "little horn" of the 3rd beast, are not prophecies at all, and therefore according to you, they mean nothing?
BTW I hear a lot your opinions and speculation, but no bible.
No, you don't understand when and what the "indignation" was, and when the end of THAT was. See the 2300 days. It's the end of that vision that marks the end of the "indignation", and has nothing to do with the end of time itself. Please re-study Daniel, in conjunction with Isaiah 55:8-9.You just keep believing the time of the end was in 167 BC like the pharisees taught you in the book of Maccabeus.
Its not ment for everyone to understand Daniel.
Daniel 12:10 Many will be purified, made spotless, and refined, but the wicked will continue to act wickedly. None of the wicked will understand, but the wise will understand.
I dont know why you think the Pharisees were wise .
Your not the first to believe the Pharisees and you wont be the last.
If then it will be destroyed, you don't think that there shall be severe retaliation from those who worship there. I am aware that if things don't slow down in that area, we will be seeing those 4 bound angels in the Euphrates River (region) being unleashed soon.
Daniel never says the daily sacrifice is the death of animals.
You act as though God couldnt know the future and the sacrifices Israelis would make today.You can only think of the past and believe God can only know the past such as sacrificing animals.
No,animals will not be sacrificed to God in Jerusalem.Daniel was prophesying of the future and a future sacrifice.He wasnt speaking of the past.
When Trump sends the millitary to occupy Jerusalem in the coming years,will you understand it?
No, you don't understand when and what the "indignation" was, and when the end of THAT was. See the 2300 days. It's the end of that vision that marks the end of the "indignation", and has nothing to do with the end of time itself. Please re-study Daniel, in conjunction with Isaiah 55:8-9.
Daniel did not say anything about the daily sacrifice or death of animals. His companion Ezekiel did that. The last 8 chapters of Ezekiel, in great detail covers the building of the temple, the altar and the requirement of the blood of specified animals for the daily sacrifice.
Your confusing two seperate time periods.You honestly believe the river of life will flow out of jerusalem while it is governed by the antichrist?
Ezekiel 47:1 KJV: Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.
This temple and the river of life that flows from it is not in Jerusalem while the armed forces of the north occupy Jerusalem.Ezekiel is speaking of a later time period.A much later time.
Revelation 22:1 Then the angel showed me a river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb
I don't know how you came up with the "river of life" from Ezekiel's prophecy. It says no such thing!
The river flowing under the altar of the temple has always been and essential part of function of the temple. The temple and the is built over the river that flows beneath the altar which is important for carrying the blood and guts dripping from the altar, along with the burned remains. Rather than a river of life, it is more like a sewer system for the temple.
I believe it is the river of life because everything that comes in contact with this river will have life.
Ezekiel 47:9 NIV: Swarms of living creatures will live wherever the river flows. There will be large numbers of fish, because this water flows there and makes the salt water fresh; so where the river flows everything will live.
Do you ever compare scripture?If you have you would notice the leaves of the trees by this river are for healing.
Ezekiel 47:12 Along both banks of the river, fruit trees of all kinds will grow. Their leaves will not wither, and their fruit will not fail. Each month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will be used for food and their leaves for healing.
And that is exactly what revelation says about the leaves of the trees by the river of life.
Revelation 22:2 down the middle of the main street of the city. On either side of the river stood a tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit and yielding a fresh crop for each month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.
But if you insist its a sewer I recon we will just have to agree to disagree.
A lot had changed since Ezekiel was first shown the river. After an unspecified period "He brought me back to the bank of the river. Now when I had returned, behold, on the bank of the river there were very many trees .. and a place for the spreading of nets."
>> >But if you insist its a sewer I recon we will just have to agree to disagree."
That's okay, but I lived near a lake where the slaughterhouse dumped their unusable guts down a shute into the lake. What a treat for the fish!! That area was teeming with fish!! A lake of life!