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@Stan B Nothing surprises me anymore. There are a lot of Christian denominations out there and of course different beliefs, but I have not run acrossed one that condones abortion. So I would like to know what church you go to that condones abortion? Is it a registered denomination? In this world nearly everything goes. So tell us, what church preaches that it is biblical to have an abortion? If your church preaches or you believe in such depraved things I have to assume that the sky is the limit. Of course then I would like to know how someone that reads the bible can come away with no manners. Does your church preach that you should have such a disdain for the ladies? Do you beat your wife? How about children and grandchildren? Of course manners starts at home, did your parents teach you no manners? Were you to stupid too learn or where they too stupid to teach you? Maybe you do not have a wife or children, maybe you are homosexual? Do you believe in having sex with little boys? You believe in murdering babies, so having sex with little boys must be alright with you to. Does your church preach that homosexuality is not a sin? Maybe that is why you like being rude to the ladies? Does your church condone homosexuality? The Bible does not address the use of drugs, how about that, do you believe that using drugs is a good thing? Maybe your brain has been damaged by drug use? You are living proof that a person can read the Bible and not know the first thing about Christianity. Do you believe Christ would condone abortion? Drug use? Homosexuality? What preacher would condone such things?
 
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Nothing surprises me anymore. There are a lot of Christian denominations out there and of course different beliefs, but I have not run acrossed one that condones abortion. So I would like to know what church you go to that condones abortion? Is it a registered denomination? In this world nearly everything goes. So tell us, what church preaches that it is biblical to have an abortion? If your church preaches or you believe in such depraved things I have to assume that the sky is the limit. Of course then I would like to know how someone that reads the bible can come away with no manners. Does your church preach that you should have such a disdain for the ladies? Do you beat your wife? How about children and grandchildren? Of course manners starts at home, did your parents teach you no manners? Were you to stupid too learn or where they too stupid to teach you? Maybe you do not have a wife or children, maybe you are homosexual? Do you believe in having sex with little boys? You believe in murdering babies, so having sex with little boys must be alright with you to. Does your church preach that homosexuality is not a sin? Maybe that is why you like being rude to the ladies? Does your church condone homosexuality? The Bible does not address the use of drugs, how about that, do you believe that using drugs is a good thing? Maybe your brain has been damaged by drug use? You are living proof that a person can read the Bible and not know the first thing about Christianity. Do you believe Christ would condone abortion? Drug use? Homosexuality? What preacher would condone such things?
Wonderful post I do hope @Stan B sees it.

I also have never heard of such a belief..
And he's been telling ME that I come from a cult and have made up my own doctrine.

If someone does end a pregnancy, at least they should be aware of what they're doing.
There used to be a debate as to when life began...
I do believe that debate ended decades ago.

Isn't there a "Heartbeat Law" in NY or somewhere?
I think I heard about this..can't be sure because I don't get all the news.
 

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Wonderful post I do hope @Stan B sees it.

I also have never heard of such a belief..
And he's been telling ME that I come from a cult and have made up my own doctrine.

If someone does end a pregnancy, at least they should be aware of what they're doing.
There used to be a debate as to when life began...
I do believe that debate ended decades ago.

Isn't there a "Heartbeat Law" in NY or somewhere?
I think I heard about this..can't be sure because I don't get all the news.

The legality of it differ from state to state. Some are talking about the heart beasts....some talk of trimesters, some go with partial birth abortions, as long as they keep the legs in the mother it is not considered human and they can legally murder the baby.
 

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@Stan B

If God says we are alive while in the womb that is good enough for me.
He is the only Giver of Life.

Psalm 71.6 " Upon You I have leaned from before my birth;
you are He who took me from my mother's womb.
My praise is continually of you
."

No one has a right to kill God's life.

Not only John The Baptist but others...among them Jeremiah
Jer 1.5
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
and before you were born I consecrated you;
I appointed you a prophet to the nations
.”

You have no argument Stan ...not one which has firm biblical foundations.
 

Stan B

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@Stan B Nothing surprises me anymore. There are a lot of Christian denominations out there and of course different beliefs, but I have not run acrossed one that condones abortion. So I would like to know what church you go to that condones abortion? Is it a registered denomination? In this world nearly everything goes. So tell us, what church preaches that it is biblical to have an abortion? If your church preaches or you believe in such depraved things I have to assume that the sky is the limit. Of course then I would like to know how someone that reads the bible can come away with no manners. Does your church preach that you should have such a disdain for the ladies? Do you beat your wife? How about children and grandchildren? Of course manners starts at home, did your parents teach you no manners? Were you to stupid too learn or where they too stupid to teach you? Maybe you do not have a wife or children, maybe you are homosexual? Do you believe in having sex with little boys? You believe in murdering babies, so having sex with little boys must be alright with you to. Does your church preach that homosexuality is not a sin? Maybe that is why you like being rude to the ladies? Does your church condone homosexuality? The Bible does not address the use of drugs, how about that, do you believe that using drugs is a good thing? Maybe your brain has been damaged by drug use? You are living proof that a person can read the Bible and not know the first thing about Christianity. Do you believe Christ would condone abortion? Drug use? Homosexuality? What preacher would condone such things?

Grailhunter, To answer your question, I don't subscribe to ANY religion, nor have I been to church in years! I subscribe totally to the Word of Scripture God has given me. For the most part God gives and religion takes away, especially religions like yours.

You and your hate attack upon me is a prime example as to why I do not go to church nor subscribe to a religion, because many of them are like yours! Just a hate monger who directs his anger against anyone who does not subscribe to your religion!

And your impotent ability to defend your religion with Scripture, but instead respond with a hate attack, says everything I need to know about you and your religion. I recognize your ever-so-familiar religion; a religion which embraces the spirit from the dark side.
 

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Grailhunter, To answer your question, I don't subscribe to ANY religion, nor have I been to church in years! I subscribe totally to the Word of Scripture God has given me. For the most part God gives and religion takes away, especially religions like yours.

You and your hate attack upon me is a prime example as to why I do not go to church nor subscribe to a religion, because many of them are like yours! Just a hate monger who directs his anger against anyone who does not subscribe to your religion!

And your impotent ability to defend your religion with Scripture, but instead respond with a hate attack, says everything I need to know about you and your religion. I recognize your ever-so-familiar religion; a religion which embraces the spirit from the dark side.

No....I was spot on. Like young boys do you.... All you do is twist the scriptures to justify your actions. You are evil. Someone needs to investigate you.
 

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Wonderful post I do hope @Stan B sees it.

I also have never heard of such a belief..
And he's been telling ME that I come from a cult and have made up my own doctrine.

If someone does end a pregnancy, at least they should be aware of what they're doing.
There used to be a debate as to when life began...
I do believe that debate ended decades ago.

Isn't there a "Heartbeat Law" in NY or somewhere?
I think I heard about this..can't be sure because I don't get all the news.

Yes Grace, I saw it. I am glad you enjoyed Grailhunter's. He well demonstrated in his hate attack, that he subscribes to a religion like yours, who makes up there own Scripture, and pounces upon anyone who challenges your cult. I am really not interested in what you have to say, because you continue your rant without being able to defend your position from Scripture.

Yes, you belong to a non-Biblical cult which holds the authority of Scripture in contempt!
 

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No....I was spot on. Like young boys do you.... All you do is twist the scriptures to justify your actions. You are evil. Someone needs to investigate you.

Grailhunter, I see you as none other than a servant of Satan.

"Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves."

Your rejection of Scripture is the trademark of the "ravenous" wolves my Lord warned me about.
 

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Yes Grace, I saw it. I am glad you enjoyed Grailhunter's. He well demonstrated in his hate attack, that he subscribes to a religion like yours, who makes up there own Scripture, and pounces upon anyone who challenges your cult. I am really not interested in what you have to say, because you continue your rant without being able to defend your position from Scripture.

Yes, you belong to a non-Biblical cult which holds the authority of Scripture in contempt!

I said what I said to solicit a response and you fell for it. You know what you are and now we do.
 

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I said what I said to solicit a response and you fell for it. You know what you are and now we do.
And that means, that since Stan approves abortion your take is that he's also a homosexual pedophile?

This is very sad to me.

Is this not adding evil to evil?
 
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And that means, that since Stan approves abortion your take is that he's also a homosexual pedophile?

This is very sad to me.

Is this not adding evil to evil?

Mark’s, I have never said I approve of abortion. I have never stated my personal opinion on the matter. Since this is sort of a Bible oriented forum, my only objective was to gain a better understanding of the issue from a Biblical perspective. So far, I have found no one who was capable of doing so. Conversely they have only convinced me that the Bible has absolutely nothing to say on the matter, and that the anti-abortion cult is just that: a self-manufactured non-Biblical cult.

I don’t subscribe non-Biblical cults, who in rejecting Scripture, in my opinion must be followers of the father of lies,
 
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And that means, that since Stan approves abortion your take is that he's also a homosexual pedophile?

This is very sad to me.

Is this not adding evil to evil?

Nope. Much more than that. Have good day.
 

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Mark’s, I have never said I approve of abortion. I have never stated my personal opinion on the matter. Since this is sort of a Bible oriented forum, my only objective was to gain a better understanding of the issue from a Biblical perspective. So far, I have found no one who was capable of doing so. Conversely they have only convinced me that the Bible has absolutely nothing to say on the matter, and that the anti-abortion cult is just that: a self-manufactured non-Biblical cult.

I don’t subscribe non-Biblical cults, who in rejecting Scripture, in my opinion must be followers of the father of lies,
Hi Stan,

My apologies if you actually disapprove of abortion. It seemed to me that you've been saying that abortion is perfectly fine since you're not killing a living being. If I've misunderstood you I'm sorry.

Just the same, it seems to me that you overlook a number of verses that attest to the validity of human life in the womb.

Much love!
 

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Hi Stan,

My apologies if you actually disapprove of abortion. It seemed to me that you've been saying that abortion is perfectly fine since you're not killing a living being. If I've misunderstood you I'm sorry.

Just the same, it seems to me that you overlook a number of verses that attest to the validity of human life in the womb.

Much love!

Whatever I choose is entirely between me and God. God does not force Himself on anyone. The God of the Bible only extends invitations. Only allah demands that everyone must obey him or have their heads cut off, the gawd Grailhunter serves.

I follow the psalmist who says children are a gift from God, given as a reward! As as gift it comes with no conditions attached. We are free to do whatever with that gift, but merely trampling it underfoot doesn’t sound like a really great option. However, the question is whether God ever included any law regarding abortion. I only want to hear what God has to say about this, and not the ravings of some ungodly cult.
 
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