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Stan B

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actually we only have verse for God breathing into Adam ( we have no verse for him breathing into Eve )

We have hundreds, if not thousands of people recorded in the Bible, where God didn't mention that He breathed into them the breath of life. You can't draw a valid conclusion from what is not said.
 

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The legality of it differ from state to state. Some are talking about the heart beasts....some talk of trimesters, some go with partial birth abortions, as long as they keep the legs in the mother it is not considered human and they can legally murder the baby.
It's sick.
I have no words.
 
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And that means, that since Stan approves abortion your take is that he's also a homosexual pedophile?

This is very sad to me.

Is this not adding evil to evil?
The point is that Stan believes abortion is not murder because God has not breathed life into the baby until the baby is born...so it's fine to kill it while in the mother's womb.

Apparently you haven't been following along.
Stan says that those that are AGAINST ABORTION belong to A CULT....

The point is that he is saying that WE are from satan...
and not him.
 

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The point is that Stan believes abortion is not murder because God has not breathed life into the baby until the baby is born...so it's fine to kill it while in the mother's womb.

Apparently you haven't been following along.
Stan says that those that are AGAINST ABORTION belong to A CULT....

The point is that he is saying that WE are from satan...
and not him.
Oh, I have been following.
 
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Wonderful post I do hope @Stan B sees it.

I also have never heard of such a belief..
And he's been telling ME that I come from a cult and have made up my own doctrine.
Wonderful post I do hope @Stan B sees it.

I also have never heard of such a belief..
And he's been telling ME that I come from a cult and have made up my own doctrine.

If someone does end a pregnancy, at least they should be aware of what they're doing.
There used to be a debate as to when life began...
I do believe that debate ended decades ago.

Isn't there a "Heartbeat Law" in NY or somewhere?
I think I heard about this..can't be sure because I don't get all the news.

godsgrace says>> "Wonderful post I do hope Stan B sees it."

Yes gracie, I saw it, and if you think a hate-mongering piece of filth like this is "wonderful", that tells me all I need to know about you and your cult that embraces the dark side. I am familiar with false teachers.

It is a great revelation about the true nature of the anti-Biblical anti-abortion cult your type embraces. It is totally unbiblical. It is a false religion you guys have made up and embraced. And if you think that adding to the Bible something that is not there and writing your own Bible, this can only come from the evil one, the evil presence you and yours worship. But the day of reckoning is coming:

"I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book." Rev 22
 

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The point is that Stan believes abortion is not murder because God has not breathed life into the baby until the baby is born...so it's fine to kill it while in the mother's womb.

Apparently you haven't been following along.
Stan says that those that are AGAINST ABORTION belong to A CULT....

The point is that he is saying that WE are from satan...
and not him.

What I'm commenting on is the somehow need to say that someone who may allow abortion must also be an homosexual pedophile.

Am I the only one here that see's that as over the top?

Much love!
 
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And that means, that since Stan approves abortion your take is that he's also a homosexual pedophile?

This is very sad to me.

Is this not adding evil to evil?

Marks, am most encouraged by Grailhunter's attack. When Satan launches such an attack via his servants, I must be doing something so awesomely right that I have made Satan angry!!

And Grailhunter's post bore the familiar characteristics of the accuser of the brethren:

"And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night" Revelation 12:10
 

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What I'm commenting on is the somehow need to say that someone who may allow abortion must also be an homosexual pedophile.

Am I the only one here that see's that as over the top?

Much love!

Mark, nothing against you. And I have a sense of humor. Do me a favor and get real cozy with Stan. He is a test book sociopath. perverted, deviant, and deranged. He uses everything he knows about the scriptures to justify what he is. It will be fun to watch, and you might learn something about people.
 

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Mark, nothing against you. And I have a sense of humor. Do me a favor and get real cozy with Stan. He is a test book sociopath. perverted, deviant, and deranged. He uses everything he knows about the scriptures to justify what he is. It will be fun to watch, and you might learn something about people.
Hi Grailhunter,

Curious, what is your background with Personality Disorders and Mental Disease?

I have nothing against you either, and I've enjoyed and learned from our exchanges, I don't want to see that stop.

I'm not a psychiatric professional. My wife and I have shared the interest in abnormal psychology for all our years together. As we've worked with various homeless and other disadvantaged people, we've come to know ones with actual sociopathy, with NPD, Borderline Personality Disorder. Haven't come across any schizophrenics, though they might be preferable to the evil we've seen in some of these.

I don't need to go on with this. But actually I do know a pretty good bit about that sort of thing.

But no matter about Stan, I still cringe at what you wrote.

Much love!
 

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Hi Grailhunter,

Curious, what is your background with Personality Disorders and Mental Disease?

I have nothing against you either, and I've enjoyed and learned from our exchanges, I don't want to see that stop.

I'm not a psychiatric professional. My wife and I have shared the interest in abnormal psychology for all our years together. As we've worked with various homeless and other disadvantaged people, we've come to know ones with actual sociopathy, with NPD, Borderline Personality Disorder. Haven't come across any schizophrenics, though they might be preferable to the evil we've seen in some of these.

I don't need to go on with this. But actually I do know a pretty good bit about that sort of thing.

But no matter about Stan, I still cringe at what you wrote.

Much love!

Bon appetit and lets just watch.
 

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godsgrace says>> "Wonderful post I do hope Stan B sees it."

Yes gracie, I saw it, and if you think a hate-mongering piece of filth like this is "wonderful", that tells me all I need to know about you and your cult that embraces the dark side. I am familiar with false teachers.

It is a great revelation about the true nature of the anti-Biblical anti-abortion cult your type embraces. It is totally unbiblical. It is a false religion you guys have made up and embraced. And if you think that adding to the Bible something that is not there and writing your own Bible, this can only come from the evil one, the evil presence you and yours worship. But the day of reckoning is coming:

"I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book." Rev 22
You forgot about Revelation 21:27
Nothing unclean will enter into heaven.
MURDER is unclean.

Of course, your cult doesn't believe this.

Jeremiah 1:5
 

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What I'm commenting on is the somehow need to say that someone who may allow abortion must also be an homosexual pedophile.

Am I the only one here that see's that as over the top?

Much love!
marks.
what is OVER THE TOP is a "Christian" that believes abortion is OK and God does not condemn it.
 

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You forgot about Revelation 21:27
Nothing unclean will enter into heaven.
MURDER is unclean.

Of course, your cult doesn't believe this.

Jeremiah 1:5

Grace, I really don't have the time nor inclination to debate this nonsense with you. Murder is merely the unlawful taking of life, and you haven't provided a scrap of Scriptural authority forbidding abortion, so I am content that abortion is not an issue with God, because if it was, He would have mentioned it. If you believe otherwise then you obviously view God as too dumb to have mentioned your pet anti-God ideology.

As to when one becomes a "living being" the Bible is pretty clear on that, and even people who have never read the Bible know when a person becomes a living being, it's called birth!! And as intelligent human beings, they celebrate that day as their birthday! Never heard of anyone, celebrating conception day!

I communicate with the English language, and if you have your own personal private version of English, then I cannot envision any intelligent or meaningful communication transpiring between us. I would suggest you stick with your beloved lord fishmonger or whatever his name is.
 
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What I'm commenting on is the somehow need to say that someone who may allow abortion must also be an homosexual pedophile.

Am I the only one here that see's that as over the top?

Much love!
What I see is a sometimes serious lack of communication between people in this thread, which moved on to calling names. I will probably, Lord willing, start a new thread on what Life is versus what life is, as I understand them. Are we all so far apart as this? I know how naive I am. Help us Lord!
 
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What I see is a sometimes serious lack of communication between people in this thread, which moved on to calling names. I will probably, Lord willing, start a new thread on what Life is versus what life is, as I understand them. Are we all so far apart as this? I know how naive I am. Help us Lord!

God love ya amadeus! Don't change a bit...I love you as you are. But consider this.
Everybody has a different ministry, mission, and purpose in their Christian walk. I like the ministry and fellowship side of it best. And I am serious when I say that I love the heartfelt, the compassionate, the slow to anger, the peacemakers, and those with healing and ministering spirits, they are the best of Christ’s flock. THE BEST! Better than I. But in the real world, if someone is not willing to stand up and defend the sheep, the wolves will eat them. It is a real thing. God would not let King David build the Temple because he had blood on his hands. But what would have happened if David did not have the courage to fight, to physically stand up for what he believed in? Why should a person that has a heart of gold go nose to nose with evil? Why would I want nasty words to be said to a person that has a heart of love, bestowed upon them by the Holy Spirit. Why would I stand for someone twisting the scriptures for evil and slandering God! It does not matter if you are standing in line at church or on the battlefield, someone had better have the calling to protect the sheep. Doers have a tendency to get into more trouble than those that are spectators and talk rosy words. Telling the truth can get you in trouble. Doing the right thing can get you in trouble. It is a calling, but you better be prepared whether you are a man or a woman, because it is not a pleasant thing to draw down on another. And then you have to be prepared for when you return to the flock of sheep, that they will criticize what you had to do. For those that stand, we have to take it, we don’t want them to understand, we don’t want those thoughts in their heads or those images affecting their hearts. Stay pure of heart amadeus, do not worry there are those that will defend the religion and our country.
 
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God love ya amadeus! Don't change a bit...I love you as you are. But consider this.
Everybody has a different ministry, mission, and purpose in their Christian walk. I like the ministry and fellowship side of it best. And I am serious when I say that I love the heartfelt, the compassionate, the slow to anger, the peacemakers, and those with healing and ministering spirits, they are the best of Christ’s flock. THE BEST! Better than I. But in the real world, if someone is not willing to stand up and defend the sheep, the wolves will eat them. It is a real thing. God would not let King David build the Temple because he had blood on his hands. But what would have happened if David did not have the courage to fight, to physically stand up for what he believed in? Why should a person that has a heart of gold go nose to nose with evil? Why would I want nasty words to be said to a person that has a heart of love, bestowed upon them by the Holy Spirit. Why would I stand for someone twisting the scriptures for evil and slandering God! It does not matter if you are standing in line at church or on the battlefield, someone had better have the calling to protect the sheep. Doers have a tendency to get into more trouble than those that are spectators and talk rosy words. Telling the truth can get you in trouble. Doing the right thing can get you in trouble. It is a calling, but you better be prepared whether you are a man or a woman, because it is not a pleasant thing to draw down on another. And then you have to be prepared for when you return to the flock of sheep, that they will criticize what you had to do. For those that stand, we have to take it, we don’t want them to understand, we don’t want those thoughts in their heads or those images affecting their hearts. Stay pure of heart amadeus, do not worry there are those that will defend the religion and our country.
My understanding of the Sadducees and Pharisees is that they strongly opposed to each other, but then along came Jesus and they both wanted to get onto Him. On the one issue of contention between them in the gospels it seems that Jesus was actually on the side of the Pharisees, but he never joined the Pharisees. Rather they stopped the questions from both sides because "Never man spake like this man". When it came down to it they joined forces in a conspiracy to kill him. Being right even one time does not mean we end up on God's side, does it? I don't want to derail this thread so I will go start my own...