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Your point accomplishes nothing.
You can drop it. But you are not paying attention, and you are missing the point of me bring Pence up.
If you have no reason to criticize Pence, don't criticize him.
But my point was that instead of criticizing God's choice of leaders,
1. Trump is NOT a politician but a successful businessman who ran for office and fairly and squarely won the election WHEN THE WHOLE WORLD WAS AGAINST HIM (other than those who voted for him). That is quite an achievement in itself. Did you commend him for that?The point is that Trump has extraordinarily poor morals for a politician.
1. Trump is NOT a politician but a successful businessman
2. Trump has donated his presidential salary from day one to worthy recipients.
What does that say about his morality
3. Not A SINGLE ITEM ON HIS AGENDA was dishonest or immoral. He vowed to Make America Great Again and he went a long way in doing so.
Do you recall traitor Obama shipping billions of dollars to the avowed enemy of America -- Iran -- and getting away with it?
4. You are clearly a Left-Liberal suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Which means that no matter how excellent his achievements might be
he will always be -- in your estimation -- an immoral, unprincipled racist, bigot, White Supremacist, Nazi, Hitler, and every other evil person who has every lived.
No...you don't get it. I did not bring up Pence to compare him with Trump or anyone else. I brought him up because we have a Christian in the White House...and all some of you want to do is badmouth Trump. That is the fruit of hatred.I get it. Pence, although not entirely clear of ethical issues, is probably at least average for a politician. By comparison, Trump's behavior is astoundingly bad.
I asked several times why you even bothered to compare him to Trump. I'm not saying he's blameless, but next to Trump, he looks like Mr. Clean.
No...that is not biblical. It is God who raises up leaders, not men.God didn't vote in 2016. Voters put Trump in the WH, not God. It's human nature to blame God when bad things happen, but we have only ourselves to blame for Trump as president.
No...you don't get it.
I brought him up because we have a Christian in the White House...
and all some of you want to do is badmouth Trump.
No...that is not biblical.
It is God who raises up leaders, not men.
Not only did you not get it--you still don't...and your next statements proves it.Sure I did. It was a desultory diversion attempt. But Pence is an angel compared to all the despicable things Trump has done. So it didn't work.
Down from two in the last administration. So that won't work for you, either.
Face it, he's done many things that any Christian would find objectionable. We don't hate him; we just realize the damage he's doing to America.
You don't have the foggiest idea that it is God who raises up [all] leaders, even Hitler. Wow! It is therefore clear that your whole line is completely secular and political.Yehren says:
God didn't vote in 2016. Voters put Trump in the WH, not God. It's human nature to blame God when bad things happen, but we have only ourselves to blame for Trump as president.
It's just factual. The Bible doesn't cover elections.
So God raised up Obama? If he raised up one very good man to be president, and then immediately after, raised up Trump, I don't see the point. Why not just admit that the American people elect presidents?
You don't have the foggiest idea that it is God who raises up [all] leaders, even Hitler.
It is therefore clear that your whole line is completely secular and political.
I have been pointing out the elephant in the room and you don't see a bit of it.
You are not qualified to relate to anything that is going on here spiritually.
It is because of selective posting like this that I gave a link to the ENTIRE article.From your source:
Trump wrote that through the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action with Iran, Obama "gave (Iran) 150 Billion Dollars."
Facts First: The Iran Deal unlocked Iranian assets that were previously frozen due to sanctions, but it's unclear how much those assets were worth -- $150 billion is the highest estimate provided by US officials and it's thought that Iran could not have accessed all of that money because much of it was tied up in projects overseas.
Trump's assertion that Obama "gave" Iran this money is not quite accurate. As part of the deal (which multiple countries were involved in), Iranian assets that existed in banks and financial institutions across the world were unfrozen.
It is because of selective posting like this that I gave a link to the ENTIRE article.
I'd be pleased to see wherein the article contradicts itself with regard to the part of the report that I posted. Could you show us that?
That is why the link is there... so that others can read it all, (and other links, too) and decide for themselves. I picked this article because it somewhat presents both the negatives and the positives of the deal. I could have done like others do, and picked only a slanted view. But, my intent was not to defend anything, but rather to show all I could openly do of both sides.
Do you recall traitor Obama shipping billions of dollars to the avowed enemy of America -- Iran -- and getting away with it?
What is the problem you seem to have in simply letting others read the article for themselves? I'm not arguing for one side or the other... why are you?So nothing? This was the accusation on the table:
And here's what the article said about that:
Trump wrote that through the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action with Iran, Obama "gave (Iran) 150 Billion Dollars."
Facts First: The Iran Deal unlocked Iranian assets that were previously frozen due to sanctions, but it's unclear how much those assets were worth -- $150 billion is the highest estimate provided by US officials and it's thought that Iran could not have accessed all of that money because much of it was tied up in projects overseas.
Trump's assertion that Obama "gave" Iran this money is not quite accurate. As part of the deal (which multiple countries were involved in), Iranian assets that existed in banks and financial institutions across the world were unfrozen.
I found nothing in the rest of the article to contradict this statement. Apparently, you didn't either. It's publicly available information.
Well...you have lots to learn:No, that's wrong. We aren't robots, and God isn't a puppetmaster. Humans are responsible for what we do, including the leaders we pick.
For a Christian, humans are responsible for their actions, not God. He gives us the will to do as we want, even if it's the will to sin, or to pick a moral disaster for a leader.
We all see what you're saying here. It's just not Christian doctrine.
Funny how people like that, never realize it, isn't it?
What is the problem you seem to have in simply letting others read the article for themselves?
I'm not arguing for one side or the other...