The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

[justbyfaith]

BoL doesn't LIE about your beliefs.

YOUR man made view of the Trinity is a later perversion.

I say to you truly that this is a lie about my beliefs.

A little hermeneutical advice . . .
When Jesus addressed the crowds – He was addressing ALL of us.
When He gave instructions to His inner circle, He was instructing the LEADERS of His Church.

He breathed on THEM – not the crowds . . .

Jhn 20:22, And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
Jhn 20:23, Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

It seems to me that Jesus gave the power to remit and retain sins to the same people that He gave the Holy Ghost to.

He also didn't breathe on any of the catholic priests of today.

So then, if they can retain and remit sins, so can we, if we have received the Holy Ghost (and I, for one, have done so).

You need to apologize to me.

No – I am following Matt. 7:15-20 . . .
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Who is bearing good and bad fruit in this very thread is quite evident...and I do not need to speak another word.

I know that I am not out to devour Christ's sheep, but to edify them.

Apologize.

 

[justbyfaith]

A different lie or hateful remark with every post.

This is what I find coming from Catholic posters like @BreadOfLife.

If you dislike his particular style that much, put him on ignore and stop crying.

Then I suggest you stop crying about whoever it is you were crying about in the first quote in this post.

People are constantly trying to pass me off as crying about things...but there is not a tear in my eye.

Perhaps there should be...because certain people are going to hell who reject my message to them...but I suppose that I refrain from crying because I know that it is very likely true that my labour will not be in vain.

 

[Waiting on him]

Perhaps there should be...because certain people are going to hell who reject my message to them...but I suppose that I refrain from crying because I know that it is very likely true that my labour will not be in vain

Hmmmmm,, you have the power to cast into Hell?

 

[justbyfaith]

Hmmmmm,, you have the power to cast into Hell?

Not what I said at all.

The fact of the matter is that I am preaching the message of salvation and those who reject it will not have salvation.

Not because I cast them into hell; but because they rejected the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

 

[Waiting on him]

Not what I said at all.

The fact of the matter is that I am preaching the message of salvation and those who reject it will not have salvation.

Not because I cast them into hell; but because they rejected the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

Why do you suppose it is that you are accused of crying so often??

 

[justbyfaith]

Why do you suppose it is that you are accused of crying so often??

It's actually only been twice now;

but the first time it was done with a meme that I think people will not soon forget.

 

[justbyfaith]

But, I think that it might even be a goal of mine to cry more often...

Psa 126:5, They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.
Psa 126:6, He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.

 

[Waiting on him]

Not what I said at all.

The fact of the matter is that I am preaching the message of salvation and those who reject it will not have salvation.

Not because I cast them into hell; but because they rejected the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

Maybe it’s not salvation they’re rejecting, maybe the presentation needs work?

 

[Waiting on him]

But, I think that it might even be a goal of mine to cry more often...

Psa 126:5, They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.
Psa 126:6, He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.

My opinion is this scripture implies empathy and compassion?

 

[Waiting on him]

Maybe even a splash of mercy?

 

[justbyfaith]

Maybe it’s not salvation they’re rejecting, maybe the presentation needs work?

I don't know that anyone is rejecting my message... but I assume that there are some who will; because the Bible teaches us that people are inclined to reject the gospel message.

 

[Waiting on him]

But, I think that it might even be a goal of mine to cry more often...

Psa 126:5, They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.
Psa 126:6, He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.

1 Corinthians 9:17 KJV
[17] For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
What do you believe this means?

Tecarta Bible

 

[justbyfaith]

1 Corinthians 9:17 KJV
[17] For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
What do you believe this means?

Tecarta Bible

Paul was given a calling to preach the gospel; and at times he may not have been a willing servant. For he said, "Woe is me if I preach not the gospel!"

But in those times when he preached the gospel because he wanted to, he would have been laying on the foundation of Jesus Christ gold, silver, and precious gems; and when the work is revealed by fire it will amount to a reward for Paul.

 

[justbyfaith]

My opinion is this scripture implies empathy and compassion?

Maybe even a splash of mercy?

Indeed.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I say to you truly that this is a lie about my beliefs..

It’s not a lie.
Your views on the Trinity ARE heresy. It’s a variation on Sabellianism - also called “Modalilsm”.

Jhn 20:22, And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
Jhn 20:23, Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

It seems to me that Jesus gave the power to remit and retain sins to the same people that He gave the Holy Ghost to.

He also didn't breathe on any of the catholic priests of today.

So then, if they can retain and remit sins, so can we, if we have received the Holy Ghost (and I, for one, have done so).

You need to apologize to me.

Who is bearing good and bad fruit in this very thread is quite evident...and I do not need to speak another word.

I know that I am not out to devour Christ's sheep, but to edify them.

Apologize.

Wrong.

He breathed on the Apostles. Their offices were successive, as we read in Acts 1:20, when they gathered to choose a successor for Judas.

Acts 1:20
“For it is written in the Book of Psalms, “‘May his camp become desolate, and let there be no one to dwell in it’; and “‘Let another take his office.’

The Greek word used here for “Office” is “Bishopric”. The Church is One, Holy, Catholic and APOSTOLIC. The Catholic church has an UNBOKEN line of succession that goes ALL the way back to the Apostles.

By contrast – YOUR sect can only trace its roots no further than the 16th century – and probably not even THAT far back.

As for who is bearing “good fruit” – you’re angry because I have rebuked your heretical views.
That’s what I am supposed to do, according to Scripture (Titus 1:10-13, 1 Thess. 5:14).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Perhaps there should be...because certain people are going to hell who reject my message to them...but I suppose that I refrain from crying because I know that it is very likely true that my labour will not be in vain.

This is the most arrogant and spiritually prideful statement I have EVER heard . . .

 

[justbyfaith]

It’s not a lie.
Your views on the Trinity ARE heresy. It’s a variation on Sabellianism - also called “Modalilsm”.

You have not looked into my views long enough to determine that. I believe in a distinction between the members of the Godhead.

And if I am emphasizing the Oneness of the three in order to win Oneness Pentecostals to the truth (of the divine Trinity) and/or win Tritheists to the reality of the Oneness in the Tri-Unity of God, you should not be so quick to judge, lest you hinder that work.

you’re angry

I don't feel an ounce of anger over anything you have said...but rather I have called you out on your stinky attitude out of love for you...in the hopes that you might repent.

And of course, Proverbs 26:4-5 is currently in play.

Wrong.

He breathed on the Apostles. Their offices were successive, as we read in Acts 1:20, when they gathered to choose a successor for Judas.

The question arises over whether Matthias was truly the apostolic successor of Judas or whether it was in fact Paul. Evidence points to the fact that it was indeed Paul.

In which case, his apostleship was based on the fact that he received the Holy Ghost through baptism...

 

[justbyfaith]

This is the most arrogant and spiritually prideful statement I have EVER heard . . .

Many people feel that way about this kind of statement...it is nevertheless the statement of those who know that they know the truth that brings salvation and who also know that they are preaching it to the lost.

 

[justbyfaith]

The Greek word used here for “Office” is “Bishopric”.

I believe it is also the word that the kjv translates it as.

 

[Waiting on him]

You have not looked into my views long enough to determine that. I believe in a distinction between the members of the Godhead.

And if I am emphasizing the Oneness of the three in order to win Oneness Pentecostals to the truth (of the divine Trinity) and/or win Tritheists to the reality of the Oneness in the Tri-Unity of God, you should not be so quick to judge, lest you hinder that work.



I don't feel an ounce of anger over anything you have said...but rather I have called you out on your stinky attitude out of love for you...in the hopes that you might repent.

And of course, Proverbs 26:4-5 is currently in play.



The question arises over whether Matthias was truly the apostolic successor of Judas or whether it was in fact Paul. Evidence points to the fact that it was indeed Paul.

In which case, his apostleship was based on the fact that he received the Holy Ghost through baptism...

Lol, they were tossing bones, because of their lack.