"Have you ever had a spiritual paranormal encounter?"

[amadeus]

Of course He speaks to men through Scripture. But there are no NEW messages today.

But in no other way?

Have you never looked at any part of His creation including the creatures? Do you not talk to God? If and when you do, does He never answer you in any way?

 

[Waiting on him]

But in no other way?

Have you never looked at any part of His creation including the creatures? Do you not talk to God? If and when you do, does He never answer you in any way?

language it’s suggested
7% is verbal the other 93% is non verbal
This to me is staggering.

 

[Mike Waters]

That would be special revelation outside of Scripture. The canon is closed.

Who opened the canon of Scripture, and with what authority?

 

[Helen]

Which cannot be verified.

Then we are at a stale mate...because obviously ..neither can you!!

In fact in this whole thread you have not proved that God does not speak today by any way He choses...be it dream, vision, a donkey- ( usually a spouse) or by His Holy Spirit straight as an arrow right into the heart.

 

[Helen]

Doesn't The Word say: "In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams." ?
God can and does do what ever He wants to...He is sovereign...

Good verse @Nancy...I had forgotten that one.

 

[Helen]

Doesn't The Word say: "In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams." ? .

Acts 2:17

If when that was spoken ( quote from Joel) those people in Acts were "in the last days"....then how much more we who are 2000 years even closer, are in the Last Days.

But, Calvinists don't often change their mind...neither do cessationists.

 

[reformed1689]

Then we are at a stale mate...because obviously ..neither can you!!

In fact in this whole thread you have not proved that God does not speak today by any way He choses...be it dream, vision, a donkey- ( usually a spouse) or by His Holy Spirit straight as an arrow right into the heart.

How Does God Speak to Christians? | Tabletalk
The Lord Told Me

 

[reformed1689]

Then we are at a stale mate...because obviously ..neither can you!!

We are not at a stale mate. People who claim this are frauds, they are not hearing audible voices from God. They are hearing their own imaginations or worse, demons.

 

[marks]

Then we are at a stale mate...because obviously ..neither can you!!

In fact in this whole thread you have not proved that God does not speak today by any way He choses...be it dream, vision, a donkey- ( usually a spouse) or by His Holy Spirit straight as an arrow right into the heart.

I have no need that anyone convince me, and no ability to convince anyone else.

But I've come to learn in so many ways, be it unto you according to your faith.

Much love!

 

[Giuliano]

Let me quote a verse that seldom gets noticed.

Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

This makes sense when put together with other things. God gave dominion over the earth to man. It was a good and wise decision although it may look unwise to us at times when things are going wrong. God did not make a mistake doing that; and eventually man will prove God was right all along. So if God wants something done on the earth, He finds a man to tell . . . and a man to agree with Him.

When a prophet agrees with what God reveals (and even more so if he speaks appropriate words aloud), it becomes certain. It is more than a prediction. It is not fortunetelling or divination. God and man are working together. All the Power of Heaven is behind the words of the prophet.

There has never been a time when God lacked a man of faith on the earth and there never will be. God rested after the six days in Genesis; and thereafter all His works have been accomplished through His servants exercising lawful dominion over the earth on God's behalf.

 

[reformed1689]

What about inaudible? Does God speak into your mind? Into your heart?

Through scripture, yes. Can the Spirit bring things to mind? Yes. But it is going to be through Scripture. You may get a peace, but you aren't going to get unique special messages.

 

[Mike Waters]

How does one hold dreams and visions to a standard?
Doesn't The Word say: "In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams." ? God can and does do what ever He wants to...He is sovereign...

Particularly true of the freedom of Gentiles such as myself:
"The Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, in that these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves, showing the work of the law written in their hearts."

 

[Helen]

We are not at a stale mate. People who claim this are frauds, they are not hearing audible voices from God. They are hearing their own imaginations or worse, demons.

David you blow a lot of hot air...maybe somewhat bitter because God has not spoken directly to you..in your heart..and not from a scripture...so you just throw out and tread upon the experiences of other.
You must have been a real gem in the school playground.

Jesus did speak a warning about " Casting your pearls before swine"...wise words.

But, enough said here , ..it is your loss, not ours.
I feel sorry for you. ( I may be wrong, I hope so, but in all your posts you seem to have told the Holy Spirit- "thanks but no thanks,I do not believe anything outside the bible quote")
You have missed out on many cherished times that you could have had with Father, just listening to His heart beat.

Bye . Have a nice evening..

 

[reformed1689]

( I may be wrong, I hope so, but in all your posts you seem to have told the Holy Spirit- "thanks but no thanks,I do not believe anything outside the bible quote")

The Spirit moves, I have never said otherwise. But the Spirit will never direct anything outside of Scripture.

 

[reformed1689]

You have missed out on many cherished times that you could have had with Father, just listening to His heart beat.

That's what you get from Scripture. That is how you hear the heartbeat of the Father, Son and Spirit. That is how they communicate to us. That is their word to us.

 

[Waiting on him]

When Choirs Sing, Many Hearts Beat As One

July 10, 20131:43 PM ET
ANNA HAENSCH

Credit: Sahlgrenska Academy, University of Gothenberg

Using pulse monitors attached to the singers' ears, the researchers measured the changes in the choir members' heart rates as they navigated the intricate harmonies of a Swedish hymn. When the choir began to sing, their heart rates slowed down.

"When you sing the phrases, it is a form of guided breathing," says musicologist Bjorn Vickhoff of the Sahlgrenska Academy who led the project. "You exhale on the phrases and breathe in between the phrases. When you exhale, the heart slows down."

But what really struck him was that it took almost no time at all for the singers' heart rates to become synchronized. The readout from the pulse monitors starts as a jumble of jagged lines, but quickly becomes a series of uniform peaks. The heart rates fall into a shared rhythm guided by the song's tempo.

"The members of the choir are synchronizing externally with the melody and the rhythm, and now we see it has an internal counterpart," Vickhoff says.

This seems kinda supernatural to me.

 

[Mike Waters]

Let me quote a verse that seldom gets noticed.

Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

This makes sense when put together with other things. God gave dominion over the earth to man. It was a good and wise decision although it may look unwise to us at times when things are going wrong. God did not make a mistake doing that; and eventually man will prove God was right all along. So if God wants something done on the earth, He finds a man to tell . . . and a man to agree with Him.

When a prophet agrees with what God reveals (and even more so if he speaks appropriate words aloud), it becomes certain. It is more than a prediction. It is not fortunetelling or divination. God and man are working together. All the Power of Heaven is behind the words of the prophet.

There has never been a time when God lacked a man of faith on the earth and there never will be. God rested after the six days in Genesis; and thereafter all His works have been accomplished through His servants exercising lawful dominion over the earth on God's behalf.

Do you not also agree that God, having set in place certain parameters (whereby the whole of creation groans and travails in pain whilst waiting for the redemption of the body, when this mortal shall put on mortality) that, except in special cases of his sovereign choice, he will not negate those parameters by prior intervention?
Just asking a somewhat Deist question!!

 

[Giuliano]

Through scripture, yes. Can the Spirit bring things to mind? Yes. But it is going to be through Scripture. You may get a peace, but you aren't going to get unique special messages.

Why are you a pastor then? What do you have to offer anyone?

 

[Helen]

When Choirs Sing, Many Hearts Beat As One

July 10, 20131:43 PM ET
ANNA HAENSCH

Credit: Sahlgrenska Academy, University of Gothenberg

Using pulse monitors attached to the singers' ears, the researchers measured the changes in the choir members' heart rates as they navigated the intricate harmonies of a Swedish hymn. When the choir began to sing, their heart rates slowed down.

"When you sing the phrases, it is a form of guided breathing," says musicologist Bjorn Vickhoff of the Sahlgrenska Academy who led the project. "You exhale on the phrases and breathe in between the phrases. When you exhale, the heart slows down."

But what really struck him was that it took almost no time at all for the singers' heart rates to become synchronized. The readout from the pulse monitors starts as a jumble of jagged lines, but quickly becomes a series of uniform peaks. The heart rates fall into a shared rhythm guided by the song's tempo.

"The members of the choir are synchronizing externally with the melody and the rhythm, and now we see it has an internal counterpart," Vickhoff says.

This seems kinda supernatural to me.

Wow awesome..well found

 

[Giuliano]

Do you not also agree that God, having set in place certain parameters (whereby the whole of creation groans and travails in pain whilst waiting for the redemption of the body, when this mortal shall put on mortality) that, except in special case of his sovereign choice, he will not negate those parameters by prior intervention?
Just asking a somewhat Deist question!!

I can't see any exceptions to the parameters. If we say there are exceptions, we would be saying God didn't get things right to begin with and had to tinker with His creation later. In cases where it may look as if God is intervening unilaterally, I remain confident He has at least one servant on the earth who agrees with His purpose.