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reformed1689

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If I ask someone, "how do you know the Greek means this", you hand me a modern commentary.

Tracing back their source, it stops suddenly, because all this commentary malarky started in the late 1800's.

The modern commentary-ists created their own works and started schools to feed students this stuff.

If I was living back then, I would ask Westcott, "how do you know that this word means this".....he would say "I have a PHD"......I ask "how else do you know"...he would say, "I just know, so you cannot question my definitions'.
Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
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Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
He is correct in asserting JW's and Mormons make up their own facts yet completely out of line accusing modern scholarship of orthodox Christianity as doing the same.
 

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He is correct in asserting JW's and Mormons make up their own facts yet completely out of line accusing modern scholarship of orthodox Christianity as doing the same.
Yeah that wasn't the part I was addressing. He was correct about JW and Mormon. But he is completely clueless on why they are connecting them to Greek Scholars.
 
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Yeah that wasn't the part I was addressing. He was correct about JW and Mormon. But he is completely clueless on why they are connecting them to Greek Scholars.
Yep, I agree. Just wanted the Mormon on here who said his post was vile to be aware that the part she thought to be vile is true. She disagreed with it due to its targeting LDS heresy. His comparison of the two cults with Greek scholarship is foolish.
 
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Yep, I agree. Just wanted the Mormon on here who said his post was vile to be aware that the part she thought to be vile is true. She disagreed with it due to its targeting LDS heresy. His comparison of the two cults with Greek scholarship is foolish.
Yeah LDS is not the same thing as Christian.
 
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Truther: your statements here are very inaccurate and offensive.
Only to those that teach fake Greek redefinitions, not to the students.

Those teachers are greatly offended when I teach that the KJV is our only Greek to English translation deemed reliable. It absolutely infuriates them because they realize they are redefining the word of God to their personal taste buds. They could be in an "Iron Chef" type competition with their affiliates on TV to see who has the top definition, since there are so many new and improved meanings to God's word these days.
 

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If I ask someone, "how do you know the Greek means this", you hand me a modern commentary.

Tracing back their source, it stops suddenly, because all this commentary malarky started in the late 1800's.

The modern commentary-ists created their own works and started schools to feed students this stuff.

This is no different than starting a JW seminary or a Mormon seminary, as these modernists invented their "facts" and gave it to their disciples without having their sources questioned.

If I was living back then, I would ask Westcott, "how do you know that this word means this".....he would say "I have a PHD"......I ask "how else do you know"...he would say, "I just know, so you cannot question my definitions'.
Truther: your statements here are very inaccurate and offensive.
Only to those that teach fake Greek redefinitions, not to the students.

Those teachers are greatly offended when I teach that the KJV is our only Greek to English translation deemed reliable. It absolutely infuriates them because they realize they are redefining the word of God to their personal taste buds. They could be in an "Iron Chef" type competition with their affiliates on TV to see who has the top definition, since there are so many new and improved meanings to God's word these days.
Point of clarification: for my comment I was not referring to teaching Greek or whatever.

Rather my comment was focused on this line:
"This is no different than starting a JW seminary or a Mormon seminary, as these modernists invented their "facts" and gave it to their disciples without having their sources questioned."
It's not just your tradition that do thorough and thoughtful study of things. All different schools of belief have indeed put thought into their beliefs and want people to develop their faith further. This all includes modernists, JW, and LDS Christians.
 

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This is correct. The Man Christ Jesus in His glorious and glorified body is seated at the right hand of the Father in Heaven. He also appeared to the apostle John in this body.
AT THE SAME TIME since Jesus is God, He is omnipresent, and also present within all believers. As the Bible says, with God all things are possible. So both things are true.
Yes! God in three persons!
John 14[16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
[17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
[18] I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

[23]
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Therefore, if you can perceive this:
To us, Jesus is the KoG for us.
To be in Jesus, is to be in the KoG.
To be in the KoG, is to be in Jesus.
Jesus Himself is the KoG to us.
Which is to say, that the KoG shall be within you.
 

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Point of clarification: for my comment I was not referring to teaching Greek or whatever.

Rather my comment was focused on this line:
"This is no different than starting a JW seminary or a Mormon seminary, as these modernists invented their "facts" and gave it to their disciples without having their sources questioned."
It's not just your tradition that do thorough and thoughtful study of things. All different schools of belief have indeed put thought into their beliefs and want people to develop their faith further. This all includes modernists, JW, and LDS Christians.
Are all opposing belief systems leading to the original church of Acts 2 and ultimately to salvation?
 

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There is a concept in our minds taught to us as children that Jesus is a man, typical as any sized man.
Col 2:9 teaches just the opposite.
It teaches that all of what God consists of is housed in the body of Jesus now.
This means Jesus is an omnipresent spirit to "house" all of his omnipresent God.
This also means, since God is light, that Jesus is light(by default).
So, the spirit man, Jesus Christ, is really bodily, omnipresent light.

Your questions and comments are much appreciated here...
Notice that you have failed the test of 1 John 4:1-3 and 2 John 1:7 (in the kjv).
 

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The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of Jesus; and it is in the form of the 3rd Person that Jesus is risen to fill all things.

The form of the 2nd Person is a finite human body.
 

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Thank God I have no idea what Strongs etc are talking about.

All I need is the KJV and faith in God to be set for life....no add ons.
I am sure that there are words and phrases in the KJV you don't know what they mean because we do not speak the same English today. That being said, I don't use Strong's so it is funny you keep bringing it up. The Bible was not written in English.
 

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I am sure that there are words and phrases in the KJV you don't know what they mean because we do not speak the same English today. That being said, I don't use Strong's so it is funny you keep bringing it up. The Bible was not written in English.
The Bible is written in English; I read it every day in English.

The Bible as it is written in English is scripture. See 2 Timothy 3:16.
 

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Still doesn't change the fact that the Bible was not written in English and there are some words that do not have a direct 1:1 translation.
That is subject to your opinion, which reflects your stance that the word of God has not endured forever, but God lost control of it.
 

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That is subject to your opinion, which reflects your stance that the word of God has not endured forever, but God lost control of it.
Now you are just being asinine. It is not subject to your opinion. It is a FACT the Bible was not written in English. Nor does it mean God's word has not endured forever. You are grasping at straws and just looking incredibly foolish.