We don't do that. Only Jesus does that. One must take that up with Jesus.
Cessastionism ,What is it?
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And those that do miraculously get resurrected back to life here on earth, it is by the power of the Holy Spirit working through the believer.
As the Lord does it all, yes.
The believer must be led by the Spirit of the Lord for any miracle.
Some here have tried to drink from the broken cisterns of the word of faith heretics. They cannot answer from scripture so they moved this thread to this forum, lol
To move this thread to unorthodox beliefs when cessationism has been the historic position of the believing church, let's me know your understanding is defective. It is you and others who are departing from actual teaching of scripture and spiritual truth.https://www.christiantoday.com/arti...led.prophecies.speaking.in.tongues/134881.htm
Francis Chan once didn't believe in miracles, healings, now he does believe..
Chan testified following that miraculous healing event: "Every person I touched was healed. OK, this is craziness to me. I have never experienced this in 52 years."
It's not too late @Waiting on him and @Anthony D'Arienzo to start believing.
Sign gifts have ceased. Signs of the Apostles ceased in the first century.
Historically and biblically they ceased. We are called to believe scripture, not false anecdotal stories.
These stories are just that, stories, your friend Bonkee did not raise anyone from the dead,all these false claims are just that.
We are called to believe the Lord and know His word.
Josho,
Whoever moved this thread here is the right person.You are not the first to make claims that these charlatans are doing the work of God.
You have asserted several things without proof just like all the false word of faith devotees.
Whoever moved this thread here is the right person.You are not the first to make claims that these charlatans are doing the work of God.
The Lord Jesus Christ and God can do miracles, and they happen daily. Divine healings in answer to prayer happen all the time (and even without prayer since God is gracious). But that is really not the issue. Divine miracles have never stopped.
The issue is whether there are MIRACLE WORKERS and HEALERS in Christian churches today. If they are, then they should be in every church, not just Pentecostal/Charismatic churches. And there should be weekly or daily reports of their miracles worldwide. In fact they should be visiting hospitals and nursing homes daily, and emptying them out. But no one can honestly say that this is the way it is today. And to claim that that is simply because of a lack of faith is merely a poor excuse. There are hundreds of thousands of Christians with genuine faith, but they do not see miracle workers in their midst.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
I want to be a son of God, thus I must be led of God's Spirit.
This means in everything I do and where I go.
The 7 sons of Sceva were not, and it backfired.
The gifts have never ceased because Jesus has not returned.
Therefore, these (partial, dark glass)gifts will be in operation until that which is perfect is come(the millennial reign of Christ), then every eye shall see him, ALL lame shall walk etc.
There will be no need for the gifts because every human will be made well.
Even democrats...LOL
Hello Truther,
Allow me to react to what you have offered here;
Being led by the Spirit here in the context of mortification of sin,ie, depriving it of power, putting it to death.
This leading of the Spirit is to deprive the flesh of power to sin. To walk in light of the scriptures.
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6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die:
but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Do you see this???
CRUCIFIED ! YEAH! (not as the world sees, but as God reveals)
Dead to the world, the world dead to us...
ALL the emotions and affections and desires (of the flesh, carnal, of the world),
crucified.
Dead to the world, the world dead to us...
ALL the emotions and affections and desires (of the flesh, carnal, of the world),
crucified.
Exactly, so in all things be led of the Spirit.
That is the prerequisite to be used in gifts or ministry, correct?
Sort of, as you know. (and others)
Most claim or think they are led .....
the problem is,
by what ?
But if you just have faith it shouldn't be a problem, what is easier - healing the sick or raising the dead? All the same power of the God.
This is the point where a lot of the believers in the continuation of gifts see to be quiet...
historyb
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It has. There was a missionary retired i my Church before he went home to Christ and he was in Africa when he was younger and he even saw people being raised from the dead. In America our faith is inadequate, we want to much rationalization and control instead of let God have control
No, it has not, sorry. These kinds of claims are made from time to time. Never verified
Has not what?
I posted this....
The gifts have never ceased because Jesus has not returned.
Therefore, these (partial, dark glass)gifts will be in operation until that which is perfect is come(the millennial reign of Christ), then every eye shall see him, ALL lame shall walk etc.
There will be no need for the gifts because every human will be made well.
Even democrats...LOL
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