Extreme from either side or moderate, I would like to be on the Lord's side wherever that is!Seems us moderates get drown out by both of the extremes
Christian Fiction, Sci fi,make believe...
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Even so and sometimes people who consume what is written and God breaths on it within them bringing it to Life. So simple as I see it, but are there more than a few here who agree? I don't mind walking without any man beside me, but I do want to be on the Lord's side regardless.
Yes indeed. If you are reading the Bible, something can happen that causes the words to be written in the heart. I say when it's written in the heart is when it becomes real scripture. When we read the Bible, it should be the wish that we receive the Living Word in our hearts, becoming part of us, part of what we are -- or perhaps it would be better to say, "helping make us into something different -- a new man."
Deuteronomy 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
James 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
And did you personally receive this revelation from God supernaturally or was it from your own understanding?
If you don't believe God has spoken to anyone on these forums or anyone on these forums has seen any visions from God or experienced any miracles and gifts, how did you receive this "revelation?"
You seriously aren't suggesting about 20 people+ on this site have lied about the supernatural experiences from God, are you?
Just because you haven't experienced some of the supernatural, doesn't mean other people haven't experienced miracles, raising the dead, signs, wonders and spiritual gifts from God.
And just because you haven't seen angels or demons, does not mean other people haven't. As for point 11 about "demons chasing squirrels," I believe @Giuliano, there's a cave in Malaysia called Batu Caves, it has a Hindu shrine outside the caves, and Hindu altars, there are monkeys that live there, the monkeys are known to be very vicious there, they are even known to attack and bite people.
This is where this thread went wrong, you made many assumptions about many of this site's members.
And to answer your earlier question, being spiritually minded, is having your mind on the things of the Spirit of God.
You said @Heart2Soul was too spiritually minded, of course a post like that is going to get some response, how can one be too spiritually minded? And if one is too spiritually minded in the Lord, then that is a good thing. :)
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Hidden In Him
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historyb
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And still does I have had to many miracles and healing's in my time not to realize God still works today!
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I am going to get shade for this and cause controversy - not everything in the Christian life has to be in the Bible nor is it mandated anywhere that it must be. The Bible is a record of Salvation history not a manual for every little thing that is why we have creeds and a Church to measure things against orthodoxy or in other words to test everything. :)
Christians read the bible and study it.And did you personally receive this revelation from God supernaturally or was it from your own understanding?
If you don't believe God has spoken to anyone on these forums or anyone on these forums has seen any visions from God or experienced any miracles and gifts, how did you receive this "revelation?"
You seriously aren't suggesting about 20 people+ on this site have lied about the supernatural experiences from God, are you?
Just because you haven't experienced some of the supernatural, doesn't mean other people haven't experienced miracles, raising the dead, signs, wonders and spiritual gifts from God.
And just because you haven't seen angels or demons, does not mean other people haven't. As for point 11 about "demons chasing squirrels," I believe @Giuliano, there's a cave in Malaysia called Batu Caves, it has a Hindu shrine outside the caves, and Hindu altars, there are monkeys that live there, the monkeys are known to be very vicious there, they are even known to attack and bite people.
This is where this thread went wrong, you made many assumptions about many of this site's members.
And to answer your earlier question, being spiritually minded, is having your mind on the things of the Spirit of God.
You said @Heart2Soul was too spiritually minded, of course a post like that is going to get some response, how can one be too spiritually minded? And if one is too spiritually minded in the Lord, then that is a good thing. :)
The Holy Spirit allows them to welcome the truth, that is why God indwells us.
1cor2 is very clear. This is a normal part of the Christian life.
It is not new revelation.
We are allowed to receive that word as it is in truth.
You ignore the scriptures I offered, you suggest peoples experience instead.
That is not the biblical faith once delivered to the saints.
historyb
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Another testimony -
I had no money being a college student that's not surprising in a Christian college :). It was the weekend so the Cafeteria was closed and I was hungry. My friend wanted to go to the record store not to far from Disneyland and wanted me to go with him. We had to go to the bank so he could get some money out (back before Debit cards). I stayed in the truck and a bum came up to me and ask for just a penny. I felt silly because I didn't even have a penny and looked all over. I told him maybe the next car over or he could ask my friend. So my friend comes out of the bank and the guy talks to him. My friend got into the truck and tells me that he doesn't give money but he is going to get him lunch, so we head to McDonald's and my friend ask me what I would want if I were the bum. I wanted a big mac meal large so that is what he ordered (I did not tell my friend I was hungry) and so we went back to the bank and couldn't find the guy, we drove all the way down to Disneyland and back the guy was no where. So we pull back into the bank and my friend ask the lady in the car next to us which was still there and she says she saw me talk out the window and saw no one there, I even chimed in that he waited by the door and she said she saw no one but my friend just talk to the wall. He comes back and looks at me and ask me did I eat and I admitted that I had no money. He ai that food was meant for me and to tell him next time that I needed food. I asked him about the guy and he took out his bible and showed me the verse about entertain angels unaware, my friend said God was taking care of me like always.
I had no money being a college student that's not surprising in a Christian college :). It was the weekend so the Cafeteria was closed and I was hungry. My friend wanted to go to the record store not to far from Disneyland and wanted me to go with him. We had to go to the bank so he could get some money out (back before Debit cards). I stayed in the truck and a bum came up to me and ask for just a penny. I felt silly because I didn't even have a penny and looked all over. I told him maybe the next car over or he could ask my friend. So my friend comes out of the bank and the guy talks to him. My friend got into the truck and tells me that he doesn't give money but he is going to get him lunch, so we head to McDonald's and my friend ask me what I would want if I were the bum. I wanted a big mac meal large so that is what he ordered (I did not tell my friend I was hungry) and so we went back to the bank and couldn't find the guy, we drove all the way down to Disneyland and back the guy was no where. So we pull back into the bank and my friend ask the lady in the car next to us which was still there and she says she saw me talk out the window and saw no one there, I even chimed in that he waited by the door and she said she saw no one but my friend just talk to the wall. He comes back and looks at me and ask me did I eat and I admitted that I had no money. He ai that food was meant for me and to tell him next time that I needed food. I asked him about the guy and he took out his bible and showed me the verse about entertain angels unaware, my friend said God was taking care of me like always.
historyb
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Tell me where it says that the Faith once and for all delivered was and is just solely contained in the Bible
[quote]Romans 12: 6 Since we have gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, each of us is to use them accordingly: if [someone has the gift of] prophecy, [let him speak a new message from God to His people] in proportion to the faith possessed; 7 if service, in the act of serving; or he who teaches, in the act of teaching; 8 or he who encourages, in the act of encouragement; he who gives, with generosity; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy [in caring for others], with cheerfulness.
You have quoted this scripture yet you have indicated based on your cessationist beliefs, that these gifts died out when the last official apostle died? So you actually don't believe this scripture at all. If you did, you would accept the brethren who are called as prophets of God in these last days...
@Angelina a
I think there is a difference between the gifts of the Spirit generally and the sign gifts, as in Acts in the Apostolic period...
I do believe it. I understand it also.
There are no Apostles or Prophets today. They were foundational eph2:20.
We have a completed word and the Spirit.
God has told us all we need. Nothing need be added or taken away.Christian's are victorious In Christ.
God did not forget to tell us anything. He explained what goes on until the last day.
We have been given a full revelation and are under authority to the word of God.
"The Holy allows them to welcome the truth, that is why God indwells us." Or perhaps The Lord indwells us to becomes Lights in this word of darkness and to live out what we are reading by His Power and Authority which includes signs and wonders. I do not study the bible, but read it because it is my Fathers Word. Early on, I preached what was within the pages, even before reading it. For He who is born from above has both the Father and The Son. It is The Lords desire that we all have faith, for this pleases Him, and this teaching you bring has not faith nor is it from above, but comes from below.Here is a revelation for you Anthony that you will not find in your studying, the spiritual gifts promised, are Him in us (in the form of The Holy Spirit) the same that was in the early church. Same Power, same Authority, same Lord. Jesus is Lord!
Yes there are Apostles and Prophets today. They continue onward doing the work that was founded upon those Apostles and Prophets in eph2:20. The work has not ended because the founding Apostles and Prophets have gone into heaven otherwise the unsaved have no chance of salvation.
Here is an example. A friend asked me to pray for a guy who needed healing. This particular man was not a believer. I knew that he was not able to receive healing without some kind of evidence that Jesus is real and he can heal. So I asked the Holy Spirit for discernment and he gave me it.
I was then able to tell this young man what had happened in his life from childhood, the time he tried to commit suicide right up until the present day. He was so blown away by that knowledge because he had never shared this with anyone and he not only got his healing, he also accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior and his name is written in the lambs book of life. Glory to God!
If you are saying [which I believe you have said already in some of your posts] that the sign gifts were given to confirm apostolic authority, then why did non-apostles have the sign gifts? Take for instance, Stephen. Acts 6:8 and Philip the evangelist Acts 8:6-7?
Preacher4Truth
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Exactly, and this shouldn't be in the unorthodox section, those that peddle the things listed should be.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I disagree with you 100%. This thread will remain in the unorthodox section where all threads similar to this one should be.
Yes indeed.As part of the title I added sci.fi.and make believe because those who.brush scripture off,brush off church history,invent their own counterfeit, mystical religion.
The whole church has known the truth up till now.
These kind of professed believerswould want to rewrite history and just make it up any way they feel like.
Once tongues were manifest there, off course others were involved as part of the sign gift.That is why Paul regulated them.
When the Apostles were gone, so were the signs of an Apostle.
Your idea that without modern day Apostles no one can be saved is foolish and indicates you do not understand how biblical salvation works.
It also shows you do not understand what or who the Apostles were.
There is not one Apostle or Prophet today.
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