The Twins

[Waiting on him]

Doctors love to build chemical walls, I'm sorry to hear you struggle with this.

My wife struggled with panic attacks for the last 30 years and had to take medication, we've been going through trying to face things from our child hood with God for about the last four years, miraculously she just stopped taking her meds about 8 months ago, said she just one day forgot to take them. I believe God can and will.

 

[justbyfaith]

Fact is, there are those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of Life; and they will not be cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 3:5, Revelation 20:15.

 

[Waiting on him]

So, you are saying the everyone goes to the lake?

All are condemned to the lake of fire?

"Let God be true but every man a liar."

I know you had a horrible childhood and we're bullied and had to watch your mother suffer abusive relationships. I'll be praying God heals you from this trauma.

 

[justbyfaith]

The answer is, even lying can be forgiven through the blood of Jesus so that it is not counted against us.

Is there anyone who has never done evil?

See Romans 3:23.

According to John 5:29, all will be raised to the resurrection of condemnation; unless man's evil can somehow be erased.

 

[Waiting on him]

Fact is, there are those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of Life; and they will not be cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 3:5, Revelation 20:15.

Yes I've read this. As I said my opinion, and it doesn't really mater, but I'm certain this body which I refer to as me will not be in heaven.

 

[Waiting on him]

Is there anyone who has never done evil?

See Romans 3:23.

According to John 5:29, all will be raised to the resurrection of condemnation; unless man's evil can somehow be erased.

This is where Jesus comes in.

The Refiner!

 

[justbyfaith]

I know you had a horrible childhood and we're bullied and had to watch your mother suffer abusive relationships. I'll be praying God heals you from this trauma.

Yes, that is true. Obviously a word of knowledge; unless you know me from somewhere?

 

[justbyfaith]

Yes I've read this. As I said my opinion, and it doesn't really mater, but I'm certain this body which I refer to as me will not be in heaven.

To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Yet the dead in Christ will rise to meet the Lord in the air at the time of the rapture.

I consider that we will be reunited with our physical bodies at the time of the rapture, if we went on to be with the Lord before it takes place.

 

[justbyfaith]

This is where Jesus comes in.

The Refiner!

The forgiver!

 

[Waiting on him]

To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Yet the dead in Christ will rise to meet the Lord in the air at the time of the rapture.

I consider that we will be reunited with our physical bodies at the time of the rapture, if we went on to be with the Lord before it takes place.

I don't believe in a future rapture.

 

[Waiting on him]

Yes, that is true. Obviously a word of knowledge; unless you know me from somewhere?

I only know you from your posts, but I try to be very attentive. So to know what I should ask for.

 

[justbyfaith]

I don't believe in a future rapture.

It is not a central issue of the faith. But the doctrine can be found in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-58.

 

[justbyfaith]

I only know you from your posts, but I try to be very attentive. So to know what I should ask for.

I don't think I gave that information in any of my posts.

 

[Waiting on him]

I don't think I gave that information in any of my posts.

Well it takes 10 thousand praises to cover one ( your worthless ) fellowship with those who edify.

 

[Waiting on him]

Romans 12:16 KJV
Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

I know you want scripture

 

[mjrhealth]

You do realize that only a Legalist, who opposes Paul's "justification by Faith" doctrine, believes that the Grace of God is a "license to sin"?

The reality is, there is no such thing as a "license to sin".
Unbelievers are sinners, who dont need a license.
Believer's are Saints, who are the Righteousness of God, and there is no sin found "in Christ" where the born again Exist.
So, in both cases, the bumper sticker "license to sin", is just completely unrelated .

This term is just noise.

Well said and Amen to that, one is not free if one is under someones thumb, and Christ came to set men free, not to oppress them.

 

[Behold]

Out of my own curiosity, why would you ask for verses about outer darkness but demand they must not be in any of the gospels?

As to your last question, to die a second time would be awful but to never be ABLE to die a second time but rather to live in torment forever is not even comprehensible honestly. My mind runs in terror from the thought.

stunnedbygrace,

The reason that i ask people for verses that are not taken from The Revelation or from Matthew, is because they typically want to try to make a symbolic verse found in those epistles teach their literal theology.
And that can't ever work out as truth.
Paul does not use a lot of Symbolism, He mostly just teaches Literal Spiritual Light.

Also, The Lake of fire, which is known as the "2nd Death", never ends.
So, burning, in whatever capacity this is.....whatever this means, Literally,.....will continue for the Christ Rejector for as Long as God lives.
God never dies, as He has no beginning or ending.

 

[Behold]

I find it interesting that there is day and night in the lake of fire, implying to me there's a solar cycle there.

That is interesting.

John Lennon who was once a "Beatle", wrote....

"imagine there's no Heaven, its easy if you try, no hell below us, above us only sky".
So this song offers you a way to Reject Christ.
Currently since 1980, John has been wishing to GOD that he never wrote such lyrics, as He has since discovered that there is more above Him then "sky", and more below him then just the earth.

 

[Waiting on him]

stunnedbygrace,

The reason that i ask people for verses that are not taken from The Revelation or from Matthew, is because they typically want to try to make a symbolic verse found in those epistles teach their literal theology.
And that can't ever work out as truth.
Paul does not use a lot of Symbolism, He mostly just teaches Literal Spiritual Light.

Also, The Lake of fire, which is known as the "2nd Death", never ends.
So, burning, in whatever capacity this is.....whatever this means, Literally,.....will continue for the Christ Rejector for as Long as God lives.
God never dies, as He has no beginning or ending.

Or possibly till the rejecter receives Him?

 

[Behold]

They both died lost.

They substituted Acts 2:38 for their good works.

They skipped the remission of their sins, hoping that God would ignore it by their good intentions.

Same ol same ol...

Actually Sarah is in Heaven, according to the Thread
She is there because at some point in her life, she was born again.
Mary, unfortunately, never was born again, and so, as Jesus said..>"if you do not BELIEVE... trust in and receive me, (Messiah) you will die in your sins".

If you "die in your sins", you will pay for them, yourself.
Mary found this out.