Is apostolic succession biblical?

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Bobby Jo

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... Ultimately God is the only one who can tell me what to believe and what to do. ...

... exactly what I've been saying. -- You can receive "council" from DRUNK that "the bridge-is-out", and it may SAVE your life. And you can receive "council" from a "minister" that "Jesus-will-take-you-out-of-the-tribulation", and it may COST you your life.


Jesus warned us of the "Hireling", and you should consider that "council". :)
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The first fruits of the Protestant Revolt was division, systematic persecution, plundering and theft of church property, censorship and theological chaos. Protestant Inquisitions: "Reformation" Intolerance & Persecution Catholics TODAY do not hold Protestants of TODAY accountable for centuries old sins of YESTERDAY, but some of you guys can't stop holding Catholics of TODAY accountable for centuries old sins of YESTERDAY,
because they refuse to grow up. The "your daddy is uglier than my daddy" arguments are stupid and childish, and contrary to the unity that Christ wills for His Church!!!

There are plenty of good fruits in the Catholic Church TODAY, just as there are good fruits in non-Catholic churches. It's blind prejudice that restricts anti-Catholic bigots to see only sins and nothing else.
I do agree 100% that "your daddy is uglier than my daddy" arguments are stupid and childish. It's something that every person of every denomination could really put behind them and become better disciples of Christ. That includes yourself, CadyandZoe, me, etc.

Let us all be respectful of one another.
 
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Jn 16:5 apart from me you can do nothing.
It is Christ continuing His ministry in His church, still teaching the nations, still baptizing disciples, etc.

The Bible has no denominations only the one true church founded by Christ! Mt 16:18 Jn 10:16 the one Christian Faith! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
 

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... The Bible has no denominations only the one true church ...

The FIRST NT "Denomination":

Mark 9:38 John said to him, “Teacher, we saw a man casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him, because he was not following us.” 39 But Jesus said, “Do not forbid him; for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon after to speak evil of me.



Of course the Jews had the Sadducees & Pharisees, -- but anyone who's oblivious to the OBVIOUS is more-so for the OBSCURE.
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... exactly what I've been saying. -- You can receive "council" from DRUNK that "the bridge-is-out", and it may SAVE your life. And you can receive "council" from a "minister" that "Jesus-will-take-you-out-of-the-tribulation", and it may COST you your life.


Jesus warned us of the "Hireling", and you should consider that "council". :)
Bobby Jo
Well, find a scripture that tells you that Apostles exist today. There isn't one.
 

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I must always defer to the Lord Jesus Christ and what he taught as long as it is in keeping with my private opinion.
Did I say that? I don't think I did.

Sorry, CadyandZoe, your anti-church, anti-institution mentality is not biblical.
I don't think I said anything against church or institutions.

Jesus founded a living, hierarchical, infallible, monarchical, indestructible CHURCH, not a book club.
Only the scriptures are infallible.
 

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Well, find a scripture that tells you that Apostles exist today. ...

When you throw out a OFFENDING passage of Scripture, do you TEAR the entire page out; or use an "Exacto Knife"; or a "Sharpie"; or do you just ignore what you REFUSE TO SEE.


Leave the BLINDERS in the barn for the HORSE.
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The first fruits of the Protestant Revolt was division, systematic persecution, plundering and theft of church property, censorship and theological chaos. Protestant Inquisitions: "Reformation" Intolerance & Persecution Catholics TODAY do not hold Protestants of TODAY accountable for centuries old sins of YESTERDAY, but some of you guys can't stop holding Catholics of TODAY accountable for centuries old sins of YESTERDAY,
because they refuse to grow up. The "your daddy is uglier than my daddy" arguments are stupid and childish, and contrary to the unity that Christ wills for His Church!!!

There are plenty of good fruits in the Catholic Church TODAY, just as there are good fruits in non-Catholic churches. It's blind prejudice that restricts anti-Catholic bigots to see only sins and nothing else.
My daddy isn’t ugly. This is what I base my finding on.
 

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The first fruits of the Protestant Revolt was division, systematic persecution, plundering and theft of church property, censorship and theological chaos. Protestant Inquisitions: "Reformation" Intolerance & Persecution Catholics TODAY do not hold Protestants of TODAY accountable for centuries old sins of YESTERDAY, but some of you guys can't stop holding Catholics of TODAY accountable for centuries old sins of YESTERDAY,
because they refuse to grow up. The "your daddy is uglier than my daddy" arguments are stupid and childish, and contrary to the unity that Christ wills for His Church!!!

There are plenty of good fruits in the Catholic Church TODAY, just as there are good fruits in non-Catholic churches. It's blind prejudice that restricts anti-Catholic bigots to see only sins and nothing else.
Back up several centuries.
 

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When you throw out a OFFENDING passage of Scripture, do you TEAR the entire page out; or use an "Exacto Knife"; or a "Sharpie"; or do you just ignore what you REFUSE TO SEE.


Leave the BLINDERS in the barn for the HORSE.
Bobby Jo
I challenged you to show me a scripture supporting the doctrine of modern apostles. I can only assume you were unable or unwilling to do so. I don't know if you read the entire thread, so I don't know if you are aware of Peter's qualifications of an apostle. He says that an apostle of Jesus Christ must be a personal witness to the teachings of Jesus from his baptism to his resurrection and ascension. Only two men fit that qualification. No one alive meets that qualification.
 

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I challenged you to show me a scripture supporting the doctrine of modern apostles. I can only assume you were unable or unwilling to do so. I don't know if you read the entire thread, so I don't know if you are aware of Peter's qualifications of an apostle. He says that an apostle of Jesus Christ must be a personal witness to the teachings of Jesus from his baptism to his resurrection and ascension. Only two men fit that qualification. No one alive meets that qualification.
Less we are grading on fantasies and mental ascent, then anyone can ride the train.
 

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The FIRST NT "Denomination":

Mark 9:38 John said to him, “Teacher, we saw a man casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him, because he was not following us.” 39 But Jesus said, “Do not forbid him; for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon after to speak evil of me.



Of course the Jews had the Sadducees & Pharisees, -- so anyone who's oblivious to the OBVIOUS is more-so for the OBSCURE.
Bobby Jo
Well, find a scripture that tells you that Apostles exist today. There isn't one.

they could say the same of the successors of Moses. Mt 23
But they have the authority of the keys, and the power to bind and loose, this authority, power, and the kingdom was taken away from them mt 21:43 given to Peter, the apostles, and their successors, mt 16:18 18:18 acts 1:26 why would you be required to obey them, there not Moses, who would say they have authority to be obeyed? Only Jesus!
Are they obeyed because there the successors of Moses, yes! Are they obeyed because they are successors of the apostles? Yes they have the authority and power! My 28:18-20

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

how are you going to obey, submit, and observe all He has commanded without the successors of the Apostles?
 

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The Lord bless you
And keep you
Make His face shine upon you
And be gracious to you
The Lord turn His
Face toward you
And give you peace
The Lord bless you
And keep you
Make His face shine upon you
And be gracious to you
The Lord turn His
Face toward you
And give you peace
Amen, amen, amen
Amen, amen, amen
The Lord bless you
And keep you
Make His face shine upon you
And be gracious to you
The Lord turn His
Face toward you
And give you peace
As we receive, we agree, amen
Amen, amen, amen
Amen, amen, amen (amen, amen)
Amen, amen, amen
Amen, amen, amen
May His favor be upon you
And a thousand generations
Your family and your children
And tHeir children, and tHeir children
May His favor be upon you
And a thousand generations
And your family and your children
And tHeir children, and tHeir children
May His favor be upon you
And a thousand generations
And your family and your children
And tHeir children, and tHeir children
May His favor be upon you
And a thousand generations
And your family and your children
And tHeir children, and tHeir children
May His presence go before you
And behind you, and beside you
All around you, and within you
He is with you, He is with you
In tHe morning, in tHe evening
In your coming, and your going
In your weeping, and rejoicing
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you
Amen, amen, amen
Amen, amen, amen (may His favor)
May His favor be upon you
And a thousand generations
And your family and your children
And tHeir children, and tHeir children
May His presence go before you
And behind you, and beside you
All around you, and within you
He is with you, He is with you
In tHe morning, in tHe evening
In your coming, and your going
In your weeping, and rejoicing
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you
Oh He is for you
Oh (amen, amen)
Amen, amen, amen
Amen, amen, amen
May His favor be upon you
And a thousand generations
And your family and your children
Their children, and tHeir children (may his presence)
May His presence go before you
And behind you, and beside you
All around you, and within you
He is with you, He is with you (in tHe morning)
In tHe morning (in tHe evening), in tHe evening
In your coming, and your going
In your weeping, and rejoicing
He is for you (He is for you), He is for you (He is for you)
He is for you (He is for you), He is for you (He is for you)
He is for you (He is for you), He is for you (He is for you)
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you

glorious is the Holy face of Jesus!
 
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