BARNEY BRIGHT
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Where, and what particular "written" does scripture tell us not to go beyond?[/Quote\]
1corinthians 4:6
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Where, and what particular "written" does scripture tell us not to go beyond?[/Quote\]
1corinthians 4:6
Imperfect human beings guided by the Holy Spirit to lead them into all truth (John 16:13)
1. I am not Protestant. So you can’t take that insulting term and put it where it belongs.That is a belief that has not one shred of evidence to support it. I would like you to cite one PROTESTANT source that agrees with this myth.
A Visual Diagram of the History of the New Testament Canon
Sources for New Testament Canon Chart (all Protestant):
1) J. D. Douglas, editor, New Bible Dictionary, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1962 edition, 194-198.
2) F. L. Cross and E. A. Livingstone, editors, The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2nd edition, 1983, 232, 300, 309-10, 626, 641, 724, 1049, 1069.
3) Norman L. Geisler & William E. Nix, From God to Us: How We Got Our Bible, Chicago: Moody Press, 1974, 109-12, 117-125.
Hi Barney,No what you're saying is not true. You could care less what the scriptures say. Such as statements to the effect that Jesus was Mary’s “firstborn” (Lu 2:7), and that Joseph “had no intercourse with her UNTIL she gave birth to a son,” also support the view that Joseph and Mary had other children. (Mt 1:25) Even Nazarene neighbors recognized and identified Jesus as “the brother of James and Joseph and Judas and Simon,” adding, “And his sisters are here with us, are they not?”—Mr 6:3. You could care less about what scripture says. It's not important to you what Gods Holy Spirit inspired men to write down. It's what imperfect humans thoughts and what they say that's more important to you.
Hi EG,Yep let’s be like the jews and follow the “many” (jewish religious leaders) and ignore the few. Because the many must be right (smh)
Why in the world are you attacking me thus? What have I done to offend you thus?It's true there are total nut cases in the Church, just as you have total nut cases that put their elders and prophets on pedestals. Honoring heroes of the faith (Heb. 11) whose life in Christ is exemplary is not putting them on pedestals. St. Paul instructs his followers to be like him as he is like Christ. That's not worship either.
You don't worship Paul, that would be just as ridiculous as Catholics worshipping Mary. We call her "Blessed" because it is a biblical command, not a boast, and not a sentimental request. Mary gave birth the The Living Word, the anti-Mary Christians can't even admit she was a Living Temple, the living Daughter of Zion, The Spouse of the Holy Spirit, the New Eve, the Ark of the New Covenant because they play down or ignore Old Testament types and prophecies.
All of these titles glorify Christ, not Mary, if you could lower your prejudice long enough to see what the Church REALLY teaches. Catholicism is post Messiah Judaism, our "elder brother" whom we have not theologically disowned.
But you give more honor to Paul because he wrote more, which doesn't make sense. BLESSED is almost completely censored from your hymns, sermons and literature by people claiming to follow the Bible while accusing Catholics of not. That's not hypocrisy, it's ignorance.
Thats the beauty of it . Who inspired the BIBLE . was it men or God . We know it was GOD .Nope
because what you have is their interpretation, you listening to men. When the Bible is clear. It speaks for itself, and if fully capable of teaching the man of God in all ways.
If i had a dime for every time someone told me something simliar to , ya need to be illumaiated , well all i can say is i wouldSame can be said for you
that’s the problem with many Catholics. They are so convinced they were taught right and have so deep faith in their popes they could not see and error if it looked them in the face (note I said most)
post 148? Al men are to be subject to their parents until they leave and become one with a wife
that has no bearing on this discussion so is nonsensical. Just another way to excuse a false belief system
There is a book i read once and it had all the popes listed . It was wrote by a catholic who supportes Rome .Same can be said for you
that’s the problem with many Catholics. They are so convinced they were taught right and have so deep faith in their popes they could not see and error if it looked them in the face (note I said most)
post 148? Al men are to be subject to their parents until they leave and become one with a wife
that has no bearing on this discussion so is nonsensical. Just another way to excuse a false belief system
Fast rewind 1,500 years+ and see why such heresy was rejected by Bible-believing Christians then and fast forward to today. Nothing endures and propagates quite like false doctrine! Jewish rejection of the Messiah has no comparison to rejecting the Heresy of making some woman the Mother of God. One is rejecting truth, and the other is rejection of Heathen Roman Catholic lies and heresy.Fast forward 1,500+ years when some men challenge a 1,500 year teaching of Christianity about the Mother of God and those few men that present the challenge should be listened to? This new teaching on Mary is equivalent to the many Jewish leaders rejecting Jesus and the few accepting Him?
Hi EG,
Soooooo let me see if I have your suggestion correct: Two thousand years ago many of the Jewish religious leaders were against Jesus, wanted him dead or silenced etc. etc.
Obviously those "many religious leaders" were wrong about Jesus. THANKFULLY not all the Jews followed their leaders and some became Christians. They ended up being right and the "many" were wrong.
Fast forward 1,500+ years when some men challenge a 1,500 year teaching of Christianity about the Mother of God and those few men that present the challenge should be listened to? This new teaching on Mary is equivalent to the many Jewish leaders rejecting Jesus and the few accepting Him?
Do I have your theory/suggestion correct?
Mary
Yes indeed . sing to the glorious king . And there is only one mediator between GOD and men , the man Christ JESUS .
If mary was a mediator , paul , peter and all others never said so . THEY SAID JESUS ONLY .
You know how it is said that we will judge even the angels . Mary herself and peter himself will also judge
And rest assured i bet peter tells the popes , I WAS never POPE and MARY might even say , YALL should have been praying TO GOD
and HEEDING the SON . They gonna tear that doctrine apart on judgment day .
Just keeping it as real as i can . Rather odd they say peter was the first pope . YET to me , IF we read the bible ,
we see the apostels seemed to be all equals . If peter had been ruler over them , you think it might have been mentioned at least once .
SOmeone would have said , KISS the ring of peter , HE IS the vicar . YALL , flee rome and never look back .
And if we read what mary said to the servants , SHE said HEED HIM . MARY is blessed . THAT IS Truth
But what the catholic church has done , MARY will be judging , as will all the saints One day . I say we cling to BIBLES
and learn JESUS well and the apostles well . I got a feeling a few might be agreeing with that too .
How can it be any clearer?? NO OTHER NAME BUT JESUS CHRIST!
thats fiction , the world of make belief- disneyland where fantasy comes to life in ones own imagination.In Mary is all our hope of salvation!
Hi Candidus,Fast rewind 1,500 years+ and see why such heresy was rejected by Bible-believing Christians then and fast forward to today. Nothing endures and propagates quite like false doctrine! Jewish rejection of the Messiah has no comparison to rejecting the Heresy of making some woman the Mother of God. One is rejecting truth, and the other is rejection of Heathen Roman Catholic lies and heresy.
God's word is the truth. When you go beyond what is written in the scriptures you're going by what your own thoughts tell you to believe. You're not allowing God's Holy Spirit guide you.
1corinthians 4:6
thats fiction , the world of make belief- disneyland where fantasy comes to life in ones own imagination.
do you work at disneyland ?
Now back to the world of reality !
Got Scripture ?
Hi EG,see you missed the whole point
4000 years ago god gave the jews his law his word and his blessing. 2000 years later the truth of what God gave them had been so distorted by so many leaders for so many centuries (including being wiped out by Syria and Babylon And still under Roman rule for her sins) that they rejected what the law showed about Jesus (as Jesus said if they believed Moses they would believe him)
much in the same way Christ gave the church with the leaders in Jerusalem and Paul to the gentiles) and within 300 years the same thing happened. The truth of what God gave was so perverted that even today we are still having these discussions. But like the jews. Who trusted the leaders their history their traditions and their priesthood. Roman Catholics used the same excuses (their history, their traditions And their priesthood (namely the pope) to do the same things the jews did 2000 years ago
and like jews then and even today. Fight anyone who claims they are wrong with the same excuses