All the fulness of Deity dwells in Him Bodily !

[kcnalp]

Paul taught there are 2 Adam's as a scriptural summary.

They were both made by God.

Both were God's sons.

Both were made sinless, but capable of sin.

The 1st Adam failed.

The last Adam succeeded by an external power(Holy Ghost inside).

God did not become neither Adam, as the RCC teaches God became the 2nd Adam(incarnation theory).

This idea debunks the Bible theme and the words of Jesus in most passages("my God", 'God is a Spirit", "only God is good' etc.).

This is why everyone goes astray from the original theme.

Only Satanic heretics believe you when you say Jesus was "made good".

 

[kcnalp]

I was saying the Spirit in Jesus was good.
Jesus gave the source the credit, like we should.

You already said Jesus was "made good". No Christian believes you. Jesus didn't have to be "made good". He was ALWAYS good!

 

[justbyfaith]

Some pages later "Command of God" if few are found in a town - worshiping other Gods .. the whole town must be wiped out..

I think it's safe to say that even the children of these cities that God wanted wiped out, were steeped in idolatry in the incurable sense.

 

[FollowHim]

I explained Thomas' reaction in my previous post to you, just for the record, but will repeat.
Jesus explained the meaning of calling men gods, 'if I called them gods to whom the Word of God came, how much more His Messiah'. We don't lose our heads and jump into the realm of the implausible, just because the word theos is used to refer to men. There are no exclusive words for the almighty God. Even the tetragrammaton is not a personal pronoun, but a verb tense that denotes a concept. It is used often throughout the Bible to refer to men, and its Greek equivalent ego eimi. Thus, context rules.
Only 1 week earlier Thomas didn't even accept Jesus as the messiah, but a defeated and deluded leader of a bunch of riff-raff. Being raised from the dead, of which Thomas was familiar with many episodes (Lazarus, Jarius' daughter, widow from Nain's son, Elisha & Elijah's circumstances, etc..), would not compel Thomas to believe in the unfathomable and incomprehensible, standing before him was the transcendent omnipresent God, to whom he stuck his fingers into his body (most people would be scared of instantly dying just being within 1,000 feet).
God can never authentically humble Himself before His own creation, as you stated. There is no affinity between God and man, in order to do so on any practical and meaningful level. God did not propitiate Himself, ...do you understand the implications of what you are professing.

You are a blasphemer because you call a man, God.

You suffer from reinterpretation of scripture to mean something is ok though heresy in your view, and I am a heretic to repeat it.

Your emotional expression reveals your heart. Our emotional stability often ranks higher than our logic. I have done the same myself. Moses knew God, was so close yet failed to honour the Lord and suffered for it.

Thomas said "My Lord and my God"
You cannot be clearer than this.

Jesus called us to have His words in our hearts. He meant so the meaning of the words works through us.

It is obvious when the words do not match our view, we change their meaning. Over time our view changes as the words define the truth and we are set free.

Jesus raised the dead, healed the sick, died as His message of love and ascended into heaven. He was eternal, so no normal man. The disciples realised this was so unusual they declared Him God.

God bless you

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

same exact size human body that was in the grave and Resurrected

Telling halve of what you really believe to people for the whole of what you believe, is LYING. And you know you're DECEIVING!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Why is he called 'doubting Thomas'?

No one called Thomas 'doubting Thomas' before the popes started to worship him and idolize Jesus ''wounds''.
Please read
https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/doubting-thomas.32447/#post-723209#25

I could e-mail you a file (booklet) if I could have your e-mail address.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

why do you box God in for ?

because you cannot comprehend God ?

how did God create ex nihilo ?

just because you cannot explain the infinite does not mean the infinite cannot become man.

as far as the heavens are above the earth so are My ways above yours declares the LORD !

It is so sad that you hold on to your denial of Jesus' Integrity being the Lamb of God without defect BEFORE AS AFTER He poured out his SOUL. Why? WHY?!

 

[Heyzeus]

I think it's safe to say the even the children of these cities that God wanted wiped out, were steeped in idolatry in the incurable sense.

I think it is safe to say that you are making things up ... throwing against wall .. and hoping something sticks.

1) the passage tells us that only a few were worshiping other Gods
2) This law is not just for one case .. it is a law .. do you understand the distinction here ?
3) Even if everything you said was true - It is not a babies fault that the parent happens to do stupid things.

The problem with having to twist your brain around sideways in order to maintain your foundation .. is that this is not the sign of a strong foundation.

 

[ChristisGod]

It is so sad that you hold on to your denial of Jesus' Integrity being the Lamb of God without defect BEFORE AS AFTER He poured out his SOUL. Why? WHY?!

the Riddler strikes again speak English and make some sort of sense with your reply.

Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. He is Immutable. Like Father like Son .As God the Father and Son share the same attributes as God. If you disagree with this you don't know the first thing about the Triune God of the bible. And surely know nothing about the 2 natures in Christ, the Hypostatic Union. Add the bodily Resurrection onto that list if you disagree with the OP in this thread.

hope this helps !!!

 

[ChristisGod]

No one called Thomas 'doubting Thomas' before the popes started to worship him and idolize Jesus ''wounds''.
Please read
https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/doubting-thomas.32447/#post-723209#25

I could e-mail you a file (booklet) if I could have your e-mail address.

no thanks, Got Scripture ?

 

[ChristisGod]

Telling halve of what you really believe to people for the whole of what you believe, is LYING. And you know you're DECEIVING!

every post of yours is ad hominem attacks. are you capable of attacking an argument instead of the person ?

what happened to the body that was dead in the tomb ?

lets see who is lying ?

I know how Paul felt with his thorn in the flesh, the accuser of the brethren !

And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. 8 Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. 9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

you follow me around in all my threads making up lies and false accusations.

FYI- that speaks volumes about your character, not mine.

hope this helps !!!

 

[ChristisGod]

I think it's safe to say the even the children of these cities that God wanted wiped out, were steeped in idolatry in the incurable sense.

yes hence the Genesis Flood, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, Tyre and Sidon as examples.

 

[Truther]

Did God dwell in the OT Tabernacle ? yes or no

Not very bit of God, like per Col 2:9.

The tabernacle was not omnipresent.

 

[ChristisGod]

Not very bit of God, like per Col 2:9.

The tabernacle was not omnipresent.

was God dwelling in the OT Tabernacle omnipresent ?

 

[Truther]

Spoiler alert, Jesus is the light of all men, the light of the world John 8:12. How did you manage to take a spiritual truth, and turn it into and explication of watts and lumens? You're lacking depth to your thoughts and perception.

Notice the source of Jesus' light that lights the new heaven and earth is his God.

Jesus shines by God's power.

 

[Truther]

Sure .. kind of like the Gia thing .. how God is manifested in the universe is an interesting thing ..

Amen.

God reveals Himself through the son.

This qualifies the son as the express image of the invisible God.

 

[Truther]

Only Satanic heretics believe you when you say Jesus was "made good".

Were you made good by God's inner Spirit?

 

[Truther]

You already said Jesus was "made good". No Christian believes you. Jesus didn't have to be "made good". He was ALWAYS good!

....as you debunk "...why callest thou me good....'.

 

[Truther]

was God dwelling in the OT Tabernacle omnipresent ?

Yes.

Now, the Holy Ghost covers every square inch of the universe.

It is only dwelling in certain people though.

So, sinners are surrounded by God, but God does not fill them with a portion of Himself.

Meaning, when someone receives the Holy Ghost, it does not come from afar off in another universe, but simply enters them from already surrounding them.

With the body of Jesus, he is filled with all of this Spirit, so therefore the body of Jesus is also omnipresent.

When someone get's the Holy Ghost, it is God inside Christ...inside them.

 

[ChristisGod]

Yes.

Now, the Holy Ghost covers every square inch of the universe.

It is only dwelling in certain people though.

So, sinners are surrounded by God, but God does not fill them with a portion of Himself.

Meaning, when someone receives the Holy Ghost, it does not come from afar off in another universe, but simply enters them from already surrounding them.

With the body of Jesus, he is filled with all of this Spirit, so therefore the body of Jesus is also omnipresent.

When someone get's the Holy Ghost, it is God inside Christ...inside them.

In the NT we read that the Word who was God ( John 1:1) became flesh and made His Dwelling among us ( John 1:14)

Dwelling literally means " pitched a tent" ie Tabernacled among us and we beheld His Glory( John 1:14).

This is exactly what YHWH did in the OT Tabernacle when He dwelled among His people. John is telling us the same thing here. God the Word pitched His tent( in human flesh) and lived among us and they beheld His Glory just the same as in the OT Tabernacle.

skénoó: to have one's tent, dwell
Original Word: σκηνόω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: skénoó
Phonetic Spelling: (skay-no'-o)
Definition: to have one's tent, dwell
Usage: I dwell as in a tent, encamp, have my tabernacle

Just as YHWH was still omnipresent then so to was the Son while He walked this earth.

hope this helps !!!