All the fulness of Deity dwells in Him Bodily !

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ChristisGod

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Funny.

The sun is a star.

It is 108 times the size of the earth.

It is 6-8 light minutes away and I can block it out with my thumb.

What would it look like if it was 6-8 light hours away?

Nearly invisible.

There is your stellar measuring stick.
oh the irony of your screen name
 

DNB

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A practicing Jew would never break the commandment to worship other gods. Thomas not only addressed Jesus as His Lord but also as his God. Then worshiped Him after his great confession and Jesus ACCEPTED the worship of Thomas and did not correct him that He was not God.

And yes you have horrible hermenuetics reading your false theology into the text resulting in EISEGESIS.

case closed.

hope this helps !!!
There is a difference between worshipping someone within a particular capacity, as opposed to worshipping a being or entity, as God.
You are clearly unable to recognized or comprehend this distinction.
In other words, Christophany, you are the idolater by worshipping a man, as God. I worship a man as God's chosen Messiah.
 

ChristisGod

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There is a difference between worshipping someone within a particular capacity, as opposed to worshipping a being or entity, as God.
You are clearly unable to recognized or comprehend this distinction.
In other words, Christophany, you are the idolater by worshipping a man, as God. I worship a man as God's chosen Messiah.
Thomas addressed Him as God followed by worship.

Its plain enough to see that even a child would agree. Only a person reading their own preconceived ideas into the text would argue otherwise. That is what is known as eisegesis, your method.
 

justbyfaith

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There is many obvious contradictions in the Bible - such as the one I gave you .. and there is no way out.

There is always a reconciliation in scripture for any apparent contradictions. I gave you an explanation that dealt with the seeming contradiction that you brought forth and you would not accept it. Which does not indicate that it is invalid. I will say to you now that there is always an explanation that deals with any and every apparent contradiction that may seem to appear in holy scripture.

There was no global flood round 2100-2300 BC ... didn't happen.

2Pe 3:3, Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5, For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6, Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
 

GerhardEbersoehn

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He is not in full equity with God according to Scripture - but you believe what you will :) You can find a few vague passages - most which you will misinterpret .. and a few that still have alternate interpretation .. which is Why Bible Encyclopedias and reference books say things like.


.Trinity > History of Trinitarian Doctrines (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

These few vague passages stand against a plethora of Claims by Jesus that he is not the Father ...

but it matters not to me ... Follow the teachings of Jesus and you will have a much better chance of passing through the pearly gates.. and there is no "free pass" all are Judged according to scripture.

Fortunately - Jesus has set the bar rather low - so chin up .. and follow the Golden Rule as Per Matt 7:12 ..

Why with posts like this one your own post it won't take you long to fill a large encyclopaedia lacking Scripture completely.
And all a storming of Don Coyote's windmills. Who says Jesus is the Father? He is not the Father, but has his Father's Name, of 'Father' OF COURSE - by whose and which NAME OF NAMES OF GOD ALMIGHTY FATHER, God the Son has been known and worshipped from there were saved sinners upon earth.

I won't even try to find words... none will be insulting enough.
 

Truther

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When someone 'receive the Holy Spirit', it is God in Full Fellowship and Equity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit doing His Will in him, revealing the Scriptures "concerning the Christ", to him.
No, it is 2, not 3....


23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
 

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Jumping in here but why would someone claiming that Jesus was good - he came that way .. at some point was created ... made good. There are so many contexts in which such a comment would not be Heretical ..

Explain why you would demonize the claimant as you have done .. calling them "Satanic" .. while you twirl around in a circle with eyes rolled to back of head...

What has you so horrified ? - Sataniel around every corner trying to trick you .. mmmmuuuuuaaaahhh haaaa haaa
Well, another lost soul saying Jesus wasn't good! Pity you!
 

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So your savior was a sinner? Pity you on Judgment Day!
He did not sin. You didn't hear that from me.

If a random person goes through a day without sinning, does God qualify them as good?
 

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I'm sorry, you seem to be oblivious as to how many times that you jumped to unwarranted conclusion, just in that one paragraph.
So, that's it, Thomas said 'my Lord, and my God', therefore, the man standing before him was the almighty, omnipresent and transcendent God?
Horrible, horrible exegesis!
I think unbelief is your problem.
Thomas saw all Jesus's ministry and knew Jesus said He would rise again. But as this was impossible, even when the other disciples said it happened he could not accept it.

So Thomas finally admits Jesus is God.
Jesus said to Lazarus, even if people rise from the dead, they will not accept the reality.

Emotional conviction can be wrong. I walked once into a bog/swamp. It looked safe to continue but I was sinking. So I was wrong, what I was sure was safe would kill me. What I did know was reversing my steps was safe. So that is what I did.

No man could be God, until God appeared in human form. If this man was so unusual then maybe. And it's the maybe that opens the door.

Some have no maybe, because they know, except everything we know is faith based, there is no absolute knowledge possible. God bless you
 

FollowHim

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Do you know how far 10,000 light years is?

Nothing created is farther than that.
A simple discovery. The milky way galaxy is 52,000 light years across. It can be scaled from close stars to more distant, step by step. The nearest galaxy is much further away than this. By simply extending time and distance things are much older than 10,000 years.

It is possible that this vast creation we barely see is just for our show, except it is so vast we can only just grasp it with our vast understanding. Things are not as we imagined. So we need open hearts and a sense of adventure. God bless you
 
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