Sorry to muddy the waters, but my post primarily was addressed @Nancy who may know more about where I am. Once having started to respond to her I realized that I had left your OP hanging so I added a few thoughts on that. I will try to clarify...
What I am seeing is that the whole of the unbelievers walk is a fiction, but since they are dead in the eyes of God it would matter only insofar as it influences those who have real Life in them or those who will before the end of their course.
The person, on the other hand, who has completely overcome the world as did Jesus understands and is within reality or Truth or Jesus. How many on this forum or in the churches have so overcome the world that Jesus overcame. I believe that Jesus opened up the Way and some are striving to follow it. Many, I believe, are on a mixed walk, walking in two places at least some of the time, that is to say they are double minded... or the 'old man' is still in the running against the 'new man'.
Your second sentence speaks to me of the deluded person, who have received a delusion because his love for truth is missing or has fallen from first place and has led him to double mindedness or worse.
When it comes to Truth, I believe what Jesus said. Men have their own definition of truth, which certainly is not the same. Since this is essentially supposed to be a "Christian" forum I went with what Jesus said without too much clarification. I understand however not everyone, who 'believes' agrees with me and some misunderstandings may exist.Amadeus: I just do not understand the gist of your post to me. This OP is not specifically focused on being a believer or not. It does however focus on who is IMO is providing fiction for truth. All people should know the truth about men, the world and even the spiritual truth of God. It then suggests, at least implicitly, that evil men, not usually believers, can sway any man, whether they be a believer or not.
What I am seeing is that the whole of the unbelievers walk is a fiction, but since they are dead in the eyes of God it would matter only insofar as it influences those who have real Life in them or those who will before the end of their course.
The person, on the other hand, who has completely overcome the world as did Jesus understands and is within reality or Truth or Jesus. How many on this forum or in the churches have so overcome the world that Jesus overcame. I believe that Jesus opened up the Way and some are striving to follow it. Many, I believe, are on a mixed walk, walking in two places at least some of the time, that is to say they are double minded... or the 'old man' is still in the running against the 'new man'.
I guess my expressed view is seen from a broader perspective. Examination of truth versus fiction as man defines them may be at times helpful to believers, but ultimately for them it must be left behind as they walk closer to God.It is an open ended type OP. It can give warning to those that think they are believers, to re-examine and check their spirituality and their standing with their Creator, as they live in this world. They need to re-examine their truth in all things, whilst living in this world. It may be fiction and deceit and they are being fooled, deliberately.
Your first sentence here suggests the difference I described between real Truth [Jesus] and man's definition or description of truth.And the truth for this OP, is not necessarily just the truth from scripture. The world can blind any man/woman into thinking their truth they hold is really fiction. It is also can be a warning to those that are not believers to examine where their sources of information for the truth is derived. Of course we as believers pray for wisdom and truth. The unbeliever has not this vehicle at their disposal for the discernment of truth versus fiction (lies).
Your second sentence speaks to me of the deluded person, who have received a delusion because his love for truth is missing or has fallen from first place and has led him to double mindedness or worse.
You cleared it up for your part and hopefully I have for mine.I hope this clears things up a bit...Let me know
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