Does that include the desire to sin?
I thought for the longest time that you and I were in Complete Agreement about All Things Biblical.....and I “ STILL” agree that you have the VAST majority of things correct....Rightly or wrongly, I detected “ Leaven” in some of your posts....and we Both should know that it only takes a “ Little Leaven” to spoil the whole batch...I am not ambitious enough to go back through all of the old posts, but if memory serves me , you were showing yourself to be somebody that was saying, “Yes, Jesus Saves, BUT you MUST REPENT to “ stay” saved....” That sounds great , but it is an Addition to Paul’s Gospel,Of Grace in 1Cor15:1........ Believers SHOULD Repent, and As a Believer I find myself Repenting quite often.....but, Paul never made it a Demand for getting saved....The DEMAND was BELIEVE in JESUS ...
I believe Repentance is MANDANTORY for getting Saved....the problem is, the Translators Of The Bible took Three Separate Greek and called them ALL “ repentance”.....Before Salvation, The Unbeliever must “ change his mind “ and “ turn” to God with Faith in Jesus Alone to Save Him —- If one goes from “ Unbelief in Jesus” to “ BELIEF IN JESUS” , He has undergone the “ Change Of Mind” ( from the Greek Word “ metanoia” , literally “ mind change” ), the Repentance that leads to being Saved....Surely, a sorrow for sin , a sense of shame and the desire to do better will often accompany this process , but that “ sorrow, shame and regret for sin” is not the precise thing that Saves — few lost sinners ever experienced “ that” type of Repentance more profoundly Than Judas ....had that Regret, etc lead him to Jesus , he would be in Paradise today with the Thief on the Cross That Repented and Repented Properly...... The Thief Turned to Jesus and got Saved—- Judas “ Turned” to a hangman’s Noose and is in Hell as we speak......
AfTER One has Properly Repented by Going from UNBELIEF to BELIEF in the Death, Burial and Resurrection in Jesus, and Believing He died for your sins, Plus Nothing, you are Saved and another type of Repentance comes into play—- it is the Conviction Of Doing something Sinful as a Believer ...this is where you did something Sinful and in your heart-of- Hearts , you probably even “ knew” you we’re doing wrong while you did it ! You experience a “ Godly Sorrow” , a pain in your Conscience put there by a Grieved Holy Spirit That is part of God's Discipline Plan for His Saved Children.The Bible refers to it as “ Chastizement”........ Do something Sinful......get Chastised for it enough times ....and the hope is that you will eventually Stop Doing it...One has the freedom to ignore these Chastisements if he still persists in his or her sinning.....God is very Merciful and understanding.....He can allow you to go farther and farther into your sin if you want to.....But God ain’t gonna be Mocked.....He has His Limits .....and He too has Freedom—— the freedom to strike you dead in your tracks! A wise man and especially a Believer dies not Trifle with God......
Anyway.....getting back to the Subject at hand.....We have seen that Repentance is Vital in the Salvation process .....so is Obedience .... they play a part in Salvation , but they are NOT the instruments that do the Saving..... Faith is the instrument ......Christ’s Blood and Our Faith.....”Without FAITH, it is Impossible to please God” .....” The man who finds life, will find it by Trusting ( putting your Faith in ) God.....”By Grace you are Saved— Through FAITH!”
Repentance can entail Turning From Sin and that is a great thing .....but it has a Nothing to do with “ receiving a Free Gift “ ....it won't Save a person nor will it Keep a person Saved....we cant even “ know” about all Of the Sins we have committed , much less Repent Of them all . And the millions of “ Sins Of Omission ?” Only a Fool would want to go there!
If you have gone from Unbelief in Jesus To a Belief in Jesus , you have Undergone the Repentance That God demands.....the instrument that “ GOT” you to Faith should not be confused with the Actual Faith itself......
If you claim that “ Jesus Saves, BUT after that you gotta Repent Of all of your Sins before you die or you will go to Hell “ is nothing more than saying , “ Yeah, Jesus Saves , But you gotta get Circumcised and keep the Law Of Moses to STAY Saved “ ......That is Nothing less than Modern Day Judaism....if you Believe that you are “ Fallen From Grace” , maybe damned.....maybe not.... One thing is for sure —- if you TEACH it ....you are “ Accursed” ..... God Damned for a Eternity....
You lead me to believe that this is your “ gospel”——- “ Jesus Saves , But!”......... If YOU or ANYBODY goes beyond “ Jesus Saves, PERIOD ! ——- You are NOT my Brother ....you are preaching a False , Perverted Gospel and you had better REPENT .....real quick like .....Relent Of Spreading Leaven-and we can be Brothers.....let me-know If and when you do.....
Newbies...never forget how “ righteous “ Gospel Additions can sound, but realize where they get you! 90 % of the Church World is “ Fallen From Grace” and doesn’t even know it....Satan has fooled the world into thinking it means something like happened to Jimmy Swaggert—- a “ good guy” gets caught being a “ bad guy” .....no.......” falling from Grace” means to reject the only thing that actually saves anybody ( GRACE! ) and trying to replace it with your “Good Works “ , typically, your Religion.....what “ YOU” do..... God rejected Cain’s Works and he will also also reject Yours! It really is “ Nothing But The Blood”....You sing it.....you had better start BELIEVING it! God bless...