Mantis
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I choose Jesus! And if you choose Jesus you shouldn’t fear anything(except grizzly bears)
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Are you thinking we should live in fear of what may be coming?Behold, this is over-reactionary nonsense. I'm assuming posts like this are why you love teaching that all your sins are "covered in the blood" so you can justify accusing everyone who happens to disagree with you a little of "serving the Devil."
If you are a Bible teacher, explain to me what 2 Timothy 2:24-25 means.
Ive witnessed the harm this person can do, on another forum.
"Worthy Christian Forum".
Go there, and talk to The Mods.....Find Debp........as she's a mod there for many years, and will confirm what im telling you.
So, what you perceive incorrectly as some random personal attack, is actually just the first wall im going to build between the real believers here and this person.
He flames forums, then fans the flames.
He lives on "christian" forums...= to post controversial or anger generation Threads, and then he just sits back and laughs at the FIGHTING.
Ive seen it for MONTHS on another Forum.
He mixes a little truth with a lot of error, and text-speaks in a epic faux- spiritually fake manner that just overwhelms the simple and the easily misled.
Watch and see...
And if he stops, it's because of ME.
Believe it.
Ok, now to your verses.
And your 2nd Tim Verse, is a good one, but you have to understand something about the Word of God
Let me show you.
1. Scripture teaches, confirms, and verifies, other scriptures..
We compare Scripture with Scripture to get the CONTEXT......as without this, it all pretext, and confusion, and heresy.
Understand?
So, when you just arbitrarily try to create a pretext... a false idea, . using a single verse....then you have failed to understand why the bible has more then one verse in it.
A Teacher like me, has an ability to let you see inside the meaning....which is the Light.
This why i dont need to post 345 verses, per Thread.......as i can help you to see, the Light that is the meaning of the verses.
Sometimes i post a Verse, and that is the Thread, and i open it in the Thread.....
But normally, i teach the Light that is the verse's meaning.
So.....
Paul says a few things, including your verse... and they balance perfectly.....your verse, that you have yanked completely out of Context.
Now you asked me if i am a teacher.....well, 120+ Threads, speak for themselves.
Next, Paul says that we are to ......""""as much as we can, live peacefully with all people"""", including with the Born Again Brethren.
But, Just as Jesus was using a small whip of cords and running people out of the Temple in Jerusalem, there is time for unrelenting and hot, spotlight centered on a heretic.
This is always necessary when someone who will use a forum to harm believers, is in operation.
In that case, you dont play with it, you dont hold hands with it, and you dont abide it.. You dont run up to it with agape` love and try to make friends.
What you do is this..... Titus 3:10
Now go and study that verse, and learn something you need to KNOW.
Lastly....the same Paul who wrote 2nd Tim, also said in those epistles to "rebuke sharply", the believers.
This is one of the best ways, if not the best, that a skilled Teacher will stop heresy, dead, as well as help a confused Christian get back on the right spiritual track.
Truthfully......Ive noticed that people who respond like you, are worried about "touchy, feely, love", but could care less about bible doctrine ....there is a time for everything, and a means to deal with it. The Bible is not just a "lets all hug and get along", manuscript.
Of what is coming from man? Not at all. Look. If we are walking correctly, with our eyes firmly on the Lord, running our race as if there is but one prize, setting our affections on things above, walking in all the light we have with our behavior matching what we espouse as truth, of course we have nothing to fear.Are you thinking we should live in fear of what may be coming?
I think we should be living in trust and confidence in our God. Why is it someone would rather see us afraid?
Much love!
@Gideons300
Why so demeaning?
and let's have this conversation finally.
So you are talking about the unsaved? Deluded?As, but what if we are found quite content where we are spiritually, thinking we have need of nothing because we are forgiven, so why sweat it?
OK, this sounds like though you say "we", you mean the unbeliever. That makes more sense.especially when we have no desire to be changed or corrected by the whisperings of the Holy Spirit to hearts.
You don't understand anything about this at all! What sense does that make?How is it demeaning? If the man doesn't have a clue, you think I should tell him or not?
So to be very clear, there are all those billions of people who claim to be Christians, and then there are all those who are actually born again, born of the Spirit, born of God (all the same thing).My point is this. There are individual exceptions, but overall, the church is operating on life support, going through the motions, with little expectation that the coming Sunday will differ from the 10 previous ones. It does not bother us that sin still grips us. It does not bother us that we often knowingly and willfully do things that we know God disapproves.
Wow! That is the longest yes or no answer in the history of avoiding having to actually answer. Do you feel answering directly might have consequences you may not like? I understand, and I hope you see that there is a better way to co-exist.
Look Behold, I know you do not like nor agree with what I am sharing. I get that. You have not been the first nor will you be the last. LOL. But even if we disagree, we are brothers in Christ and Jesus commands us to be patient and kind to one another. I want that interaction between us.
I understand you are not of the same mind as I so I purposely leave your posts alone, for the most that can come out it is further divide, and that in no way glorifies our savior.
I ask the same of you.
If, however, you do not feel our call to live in peace is applicable because I am not a Christian at all but a heretic, then you need.to be clear about that.
I pray you choose peace, dear brother, if per chance, at a future date, our God builds a bridge of fellowship between us.
blessings to you,
Gideon
You don't understand anything about this at all! What sense does that make?
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Yes, this is really something to think about.So, let us all be honest. If we knew this next Sunday service, that same move of the Spirit would be seen, how many of us would show up with no fear? Heck, how many of us would show up, period?? LOL.
I was hoping if I reframed the thought you might understand better. Some people don't see well what they do towards others, but easily recognize it towards themself. I guess it didn't work that way.Your question, like many of your questions, Marks, had me having to downshift three gears just to address you. Now you have the conversation going completely in reverse...
Please bother someone else.
I was hoping if I reframed the thought you might understand better. Some people don't see well what they do towards others, but easily recognize it towards themself. I guess it didn't work that way.
Much love!
As a born again believer, what is it we should be afraid of exactly? The Lake of Fire? Afflictions to correct us? I'm interested in your thinking on this.I do not fear what man may do. to me. But if we bite this poisoned apple of thinking we have nothing fear when our own hearts are not walking fully in the light, nor truly wanting to, yes, it is time to fear.
Godly fear is not a bad thing. It is a gift from God. I pray we get a good dose of it. It is our path back to pleasing the one who died for us.
blessings,
Gids
And in the same breath you say this is not an insult.Marks, I have jumped on you rather aggressively in the past because you are thick-headed, and no that is not a deliberate insult; I am telling you why I have to do that sometimes, and Behold is even more so. This might be the one time when I actually agree with Behold, in fact. If soft correction doesn't work, then it requires that one get a little more forceful, does it not?
Or, to put this another way . . .Marks, I have jumped on you rather aggressively in the past because you are thick-headed, and no that is not a deliberate insult; I am telling you why I have to do that sometimes, and Behold is even more so. This might be the one time when I actually agree with Behold, in fact. If soft correction doesn't work, then it requires that one get a little more forceful, does it not?