For those who deny the Most Holy Trinity!

[WaterSong]

Emmanuel was not the baby Jesus. It was the resurrected CHRIST. Jesus was never called Emmanuel. neither was he ever called God.

This is untrue according to God and his word.
"Behold, the virgin shall be with child and shall give birth to a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel"; which is, being interpreted, "God with us." Matthew 1:23

He called himself son of man. God is not son of man. you keep saying that is scripture, why not quote one verse that says Jesus was God.

I have. I'll repeat for your edification by sharing a link to all scriptural proofs that show Jesus was God.
25 Important Bible Verses That Say Jesus Is God

that God died on a cross. That God was dead and in hell. that someone had to raise this dead God from the dead. Col 2 says he was the first begotten from the DEAD. REV 1 SAYS HE WAS THE FIRST BEGOTTEN FROM THE DEAD. Romans 1;4 says that God beget his son the day he raised Jesus from the dead. Acts 13 also declares this.

You lean on your own understanding which is why your understanding of not.

 

[Freeborn]

really? How silly can you get

silly? why do you consider truth to be silly?

 

[theefaith]

The word was a spiritual bread/message. that is the flesh and you must EAT it to have eternal life. you cannot eat the body of the man Jesus. You cannot drink his natural blood. John 6. There was no glory till the RESURRECTION. We beheld his glory after he was glorified. Before that he was in the likeness of sinful man Romans 8.

what sect of non-sense are you a part of?

 

[Freeborn]

This is untrue according to God and his word.
"Behold, the virgin shall be with child and shall give birth to a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel"; which is, being interpreted, "God with us." Matthew 1:23

I have. I'll repeat for your edification by sharing a link to all scriptural proofs that show Jesus was God.
25 Important Bible Verses That Say Jesus Is God

You lean on your own understanding which is why your understanding of not.

the virgin that bore the Emmanuel was Jesus. The baby Jesus was not God with us. He was a human being a mortal being. If he had been God he could not have redeemed us back to God. Man took us away and man had to bring us back. Roman s 5 and 6.

 

[Freeborn]

lk 1: 37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

but God did nothing but what he had revealed by his prophets. so find an OT prophecy that God would come as a man. it is not there. No one in all scripture ever thought that. Not one person ever said Jesus is God or god in flesh. it is a made-up false doctrine.

 

[WaterSong]

The word was a spiritual bread/message. that is the flesh and you must EAT it to have eternal life. you cannot eat the body of the man Jesus. You cannot drink his natural blood. John 6. There was no glory till the RESURRECTION. We beheld his glory after he was glorified. Before that he was in the likeness of sinful man Romans 8.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

 

[Freeborn]

what sect of non-sense are you a part of?

KJV scripture. that is what I study and believe and teach. John 6, Jesus said, except you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life. so how are you going to eat his human body and blood? it is spiritual talk. It is speaking of a spiritual FOOD. A MESSAGE. YOU MUST EAT THIS TRUTH THAT I AM TELLING YOU NOW. Study the word and see what it really says. all of this stuff you keep saying is not written in Scripture and if you don't go by written Scripture you may as call it quits for then you nothing to prove one word with.

 

[Freeborn]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

I already answered this a couple times. the Word was not the man, Jesus. it was the message that he spoke. He said the word I speak is not mine but the Father's who sent me. there was no glory till he was raised from the dead. Isa 53. we beheld his glory after he was raised from the dead.

 

[WaterSong]

the virgin that bore the Emmanuel was Jesus. The baby Jesus was not God with us. He was a human being a mortal being. If he had been God he could not have redeemed us back to God. Man took us away and man had to bring us back. Roman s 5 and 6.

Good luck with that.

 

[WaterSong]

I already answered this a couple times. the Word was not the man, Jesus. it was the message that he spoke. He said the word I speak is not mine but the Father's who sent me. there was no glory till he was raised from the dead. Isa 53. we beheld his glory after he was raised from the dead.

Years ago I happened on a Christian discussion site and lurked for awhile to get a feel of the place.
There were a few people who members took issue with because no matter what was posted as scriptural proof revoking those few peoples claims that the Bible said something entirely different, those few people insisted their claims were instead the truth.
I can see how that could be aggravating.
Then, after being absent from that site for a few days I returned to that particular thread to see if anything had changed. Yes, in a manner of speaking.
Someone posted a link to an atheists blog spot wherein the owner appeared to relish giving instruction on how to troll Christian discussion forums. He made a list which included the suggestion to insist the Bible, any part, says something that is not actually there. The site owner said the Christians at a site will try over and over again to convince that wrong thinking person of their error. In which case the advice continued, keep insisting on the wrong interpretation to see how long the Christians work at changing that persons mind.
I wish I'd have saved the link to that blog.

 

[amigo de christo]

Good luck with that.

Folks can say some scary things at times . I have no idea who this other person is , but what they said was some scary stuff .

 

[Freeborn]

Years ago I happened on a Christian discussion site and lurked for awhile to get a feel of the place.
There were a few people who members took issue with because no matter what was posted as scriptural proof revoking those few peoples claims that the Bible said something entirely different, those few people insisted their claims were instead the truth.
I can see how that could be aggravating.
Then, after being absent from that site for a few days I returned to that particular thread to see if anything had changed. Yes, in a manner of speaking.
Someone posted a link to an atheists blog spot wherein the owner appeared to relish giving instruction on how to troll Christian discussion forums. He made a list which included the suggestion to insist the Bible, any part, says something that is not actually there. The site owner said the Christians at a site will try over and over again to convince that wrong thinking person of their error. In which case the advice continued, keep insisting on the wrong interpretation to see how long the Christians work at changing that persons mind.
I wish I'd have saved the link to that blog.

I can quote verses for anything I say. If you knew the word you would already know it is in there. do you ever read the Word? now if you think religion can be proven with something other than written scripture, you truly have no true religion. it is false. if you can quote verses teaching this trinity, do it. show where there is a first person, a second person, a trinity. Mary giving birth to god. etc. do it.

 

[jaybird]

Once again you are referring to Mk. 12:32: "And the scribe said to him: Well, Master, thou hast said in truth, that there is one God" and that supports my position.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." (Jn. 1:1). How can the Word be with God, and be God unless two in one? Who is the Word made flesh? Jesus. Therefore, Jesus, the Son of God, is also God, or God the Son, in the form of flesh.

"The Jews therefore said to him: Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say to you, before Abraham was made, I am." (Jn. 8:58). Refer to Ex. 3:14 where God the father of Moses's father, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob identifies Himself as "I am." Again, Jesus is confirmed to be God, and if He were not then He would have been speaking blasphemy.

"I and the Father are one." (Jn. 10:30). Again, Jesus is confirmed to be God in another form.

"...Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God..." (Phil. 2:5-6). Again, Jesus is confirmed to be God in another form.

"Thomas answered, and said to him (Jesus): My Lord, and my God" (Jn. 20:28). Again, Jesus is confirmed to be God in another form.

"Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (Mat. 28:19). If God [the Father], God [the Son] (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit were not God then Jesus was speaking blasphemy, but He was not as the apostle John confirms:

"...the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one." (1 Jn. 5-7)

The Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit = God's threefold and single nature, and everything is threefold in them: forms, effects, and powers.

wow thats a lot of writing and yet no answer to the question. does all that filibuster mean you dont have an answer or dont know?

 

[theefaith]

the virgin that bore the Emmanuel was Jesus. The baby Jesus was not God with us. He was a human being a mortal being. If he had been God he could not have redeemed us back to God. Man took us away and man had to bring us back. Roman s 5 and 6.

He is God and man two natures two wills
And the child Jesus is our salvation
Lk 2:30 I have seen my salvation
Jesus gave birth to himself?

All the ancient condemned heresy’s are alive and well, why not just accept the truth as taught by Christ thru his church and his apostles
I posted the didache teaching of the apostles it’s not scripture but based on it and far superior to you errors

 

[theefaith]

but God did nothing but what he had revealed by his prophets. so find an OT prophecy that God would come as a man. it is not there. No one in all scripture ever thought that. Not one person ever said Jesus is God or god in flesh. it is a made-up false doctrine.

Isa 7:14 that’s one
Are you a Jew? SDA? JW? What? I think we have a right to know

 

[theefaith]

KJV scripture. that is what I study and believe and teach. John 6, Jesus said, except you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life. so how are you going to eat his human body and blood? it is spiritual talk. It is speaking of a spiritual FOOD. A MESSAGE. YOU MUST EAT THIS TRUTH THAT I AM TELLING YOU NOW. Study the word and see what it really says. all of this stuff you keep saying is not written in Scripture and if you don't go by written Scripture you may as call it quits for then you nothing to prove one word with.

by obeying Him

11 cor 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, (that’s tradition) that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. (Dead)
His priests offer His sacrifice and we have to eat the lamb! Study exodus and you will find the blood of the lamb (Jn 1:29) on the cross (door post and lentil) sprinkled with hyssop but they had to eat the Lamb and Christ made it the new covenant Passover sacrifice and we must eat the lamb!

1 cor 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Cannot keep the feast without eating the lamb

 

[theefaith]

KJV scripture. that is what I study and believe and teach. John 6, Jesus said, except you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life. so how are you going to eat his human body and blood? it is spiritual talk. It is speaking of a spiritual FOOD. A MESSAGE. YOU MUST EAT THIS TRUTH THAT I AM TELLING YOU NOW. Study the word and see what it really says. all of this stuff you keep saying is not written in Scripture and if you don't go by written Scripture you may as call it quits for then you nothing to prove one word with.

where does it say the word of God is limited to the “Bible alone” or your 66 books?

 

[Freeborn]

where does it say the word of God is limited to the “Bible alone” or your 66 books?

If you think there is another true source of what God said to mankind other than the holy KJV, you are into a false religion.

 

[Freeborn]

Isa 7:14 that’s one
Are you a Jew? SDA? JW? What? I think we have a right to know

I am a Christian white woman who loves God and his word. I am not associated with any 'church' or other org. God told me to leave them all and not go back. I obeyed. Went to church many years; different kinds. never learned one truth and had no idea how to have or live by FAITH. When I left church and depended on God to show me his truth from SCRIPTURE ONLY; no man-made books or words, then God began talking to me and revealing the glory hidden in Scripture and He taught me how to know and live by Faith. Why do you think one cannot be a true Christian without man's labels attached?

 

[Alvertsky]

A creed is a statement of divine and catholic (universal) faith and a form of prayer!

The Apostles Creed!

I believe in one God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried; he descended to hell. The third day he rose again from the dead. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty. From there he will come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen.

Nicene Creed!

We believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made; one in being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven; he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, and was made man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate; he suffered and was buried. The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will never end.

And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life. He proceeds from the Father and the Son, and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified. He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church. We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look forward to the resurrection of the dead,
and to life in the world to come. Amen.

Should child abusers be forgiven, being that what was taken from the child can never be replaced?