So...feb, and still no sign of a major change

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Nancy

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Are you familiar with the term "buyer's remorse"? ;) Yep, you're gonna regret making that wish!!!

Yeah, my understanding about Trump is not based upon a dream or any modern prophet, but is simply based upon Prophetic Scripture where the Prophetic Psalms provides the time-line in which we MUST HAVE the Two Witnesses as of 2016 to 2017. And although I originally thought they might have been Trump & Netanyahu, I came to the conclusion that these Two Witnesses are apparently Trump & Pence.

And given that they're the Two Witnesses, they'd only be "together" if still President & Vice President. So if they're to be murdered in the streets TOGETHER, they must first be BACK IN THE WHITEHOUSE.


See I warned you! :rolleyes:

With VERY BEST REGARDS,
Bobby Jo

Ah, Bobby J,
Just because I wished you back here, does not mean that I agree with you, lol. Actually many times I do not. But, you are entertaining! :D

I happen to be one of those who believe that Enoch and Elijah will be the two witnesses. NOT to say that I am RIGHT and you are WRONG, it is just what I have been lead to believe and see as easily happening.
After all, they did not "see death"...God set them aside and, it is appointed for man to die once, and then the judgement...no account of them dying...if Trump and Pence get killed...they will then be facing judgement, not rising from the dead and preaching with sackcloth and ashes! Appointed for man to die ONCE.
JMHO :)
Glad your back and, yes...we will see.
 
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Ah, Bobby J,
Just because I wished you back here, does not mean that I agree with you, lol. Actually many times I do not. But, you are entertaining! :D

I happen to be one of those who believe that Enoch and Elijah will be the two witnesses. NOT to say that I am RIGHT and you are WRONG, it is just what I have been lead to believe and see as easily happening.
After all, they did not "see death"...God set them aside and, it is appointed for man to die once, and then the judgement...no account of them dying...if Trump and Pence get killed...they will then be facing judgement, not rising from the dead and preaching with sackcloth and ashes! Appointed for man to die ONCE.
JMHO :)
Glad your back and, yes...we will see.
You just opened my eyes to something I had not ‘ clicked ‘ on to .....about Elijah and Enoch not dying ( I mean I knew that, but hadn’t seen the relevance to them being the two witnesses )
Thanks Nancy xx
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I get a bit lost with revelation, so I find it hard to interact with those who have really studied and watched the times. I simply don’t know enough. It’s only a few years ago that I begun to see the ‘ Last days ‘ as starting after the resurrection. Is there a difference between someone studying in depth and proclaiming insights on the word of God to someone who simply proclaims a message about events unfolding in the here and now.
One is surely proclaiming an authority on interpretation, one is proclaiming prophecy, but are both of those things part of the gift of prophecy itself ?
Thank you so much for sharing your insights- I did read your posts regarding Jeremiah. As I said I find it hard responding to in-depth discussion on the last days - but I read more than I post xx
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Barbara, I understand that many people have difficulty in understanding the End Time Prophecies, because the understanding of them has been hidden from us in the English Translations that we use. There is a lot of detective work required to unravel the truth of the matters concerning the End Times that have become hidden in our respective translations.

Also, the commentaries that we rely on today to explain the scriptures have been written in former times when some of the prophetic words had not been fulfilled and as such today our 20/20 vision of history tells us that the commentaries are wrong with respect to those prophetic passages.

The pastor of our church tells us in the congregation to read our bibles and when we get to the end after reading through the bibles to go back to the beginning and start reading the bible again. What is need along the way is God's revelation of what the scriptures are saying. My experience is that I receive a prompting from the Holy Spirit that there is an error in our translations and that I need to search out the context of the source language texts and verify the translation's English paraphrase of the source context.

To keep track of these corrections, I correct my Word documents of the Books of the Bible, and then search out other scriptural passages where the context may also have been compromised and evaluate whether or not the same correction is need there as well.

This is a very slow process as I am not prompted with every mistake as I read through the scriptures, but each time I read through the bible, I may be given promptings and insights into what I have read and need to correct in my Word copies of the Books of the Bible.

Have I made mistakes after the promptings that I have received? Yes. I have also learned to hold lightly the efforts that I have made to understand the scriptures and I often have to go back and correct the conclusions that I have previously reached.

One of the other lessons that I had to learn, was that I did not have to solve every mystery that I came across in the scriptures there and then, but that I needed to be patient and allow God to reveal the truth to me when He was willing for me to receive that particular truth.

Something else that I have done is to construct a chronological timeline of the events recorded in the Bible.

An example of this was my discovery that the usual understanding of the story of Joseph and the timing of when Jacob goes down to Egypt was wrong when considering the information in the book of Genesis. I found that Genesis 38 threw a spanner in the understanding of many of the commentators concerning when the years of plenty began as this chapter introduces that there was possibly 40 or so years between when Joseph was sold down to Egypt and when Jacob took his whole family down to Egypt and as such, the years of plenty did not begin when Joseph was elevated by the Pharaoh to being second in charge in all of Egypt.

Careful study of the scriptures requires more than a cursory reading of the Bible to gain understanding.

Shalom
 
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Barbara, I understand that many people have difficulty in understanding the End Time Prophecies, because the understanding of them has been hidden from us in the English Translations that we use. There is a lot of detective work required to unravel the truth of the matters concerning the End Times that have become hidden in our respective translations.
I doubt this is correct. Understanding is hidden because it is not sought with humility. Pride and arrogance in our opinions effectively shut the door to knowledge. Blaming translations only ensures ignorance rules.
 
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I doubt this is correct. Understanding is hidden because it is not sought with humility. Pride and arrogance in our opinions effectively shut the door to knowledge. Blaming translations only ensures ignorance rules.

So all of our translations are infallible then, even though they are not all essentially the same?
 

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understanding intent is the holy grail

Is not that what I have said? The we investigate the promptings we receive so that we gain an understanding of the intent, which you claim is the holy grail.

It seems that you have an issue with people who might disagree with your source of understanding.
 

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No Feb change?

Dairy grocery shelves are empty.

Global Warming hit South-East US with freezing Temps.

LinkedIn has classes to shame your white race.

Border barrier wall construction stopped.

Capitol barrier fence Erected.

Oil pipeline stopped.

Blackouts across numerous states.

Thousands reportedly died from Covid.

No one died from the Flu or Global warming.

All of my Valentine Chocolates are gone.

o_O
 
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No Feb change?

Dairy grocery shelves are empty.

Global Warming hit South-East US with freezing Temps.

LinkedIn has classes to shame your white race.

Border barrier wall construction stopped.

Capitol barrier fence Erected.

Oil pipeline stopped.

Blackouts across numerous states.

Thousands reportedly died from Covid.

No one died from the Flu or Global warming.

All of my Valentine Chocolates are gone.

o_O
LOL, sure it's true!
 
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Bobby Jo

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Two things:

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2 Kings 17:18 For when the man of God had said to the king, “Two measures of barley shall be sold for a shekel, and a measure of fine meal for a shekel, about this time tomorrow in the gate of Samar′ia,” 19 the captain had answered the man of God, “If the Lord himself should make windows in heaven, could such a thing be?” And he had said, “You shall see it with your own eyes, but you shall not eat of it.” 20 And so it happened to him, for the people trod upon him in the gate and he died.

Choose whom you serve carefully. Choose what you profess carefully. -- For as you believe so shall you receive. But what you reject, so you will not receive.
 

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Hi HIH,
Yes, I can tell the difference. Wasn't really following BobbyJo with all that just a couple posts of his. I do not recall if he was stating that God Himself said so and so would win the election, or if he just remembered a dream wrong?

Wish he would come back, I kind of feel bad for him, the whackadoo! :D J/K @Bobby Jo

If he claims God gave him the dream, and he just conveniently "remembered it wrong", then it means God makes mistakes.
 
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Rita

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No Feb change?

Dairy grocery shelves are empty.

Global Warming hit South-East US with freezing Temps.

LinkedIn has classes to shame your white race.

Border barrier wall construction stopped.

Capitol barrier fence Erected.

Oil pipeline stopped.

Blackouts across numerous states.

Thousands reportedly died from Covid.

No one died from the Flu or Global warming.

All of my Valentine Chocolates are gone.

o_O
I have already explained that this was not what I meant in my OP xx
 

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I have already explained that this was not what I meant in my OP xx

:) Anything to excuse themselves from the buffoonery they supported for the last few months about their Orange Messiah Trump. Making false claims about the future, through dreams and visions, and citing God as your source for it comes with serious consequences.



:rolleyes:

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Two things:

1.

2.
2 Kings 17:18 For when the man of God had said to the king, “Two measures of barley shall be sold for a shekel, and a measure of fine meal for a shekel, about this time tomorrow in the gate of Samar′ia,” 19 the captain had answered the man of God, “If the Lord himself should make windows in heaven, could such a thing be?” And he had said, “You shall see it with your own eyes, but you shall not eat of it.” 20 And so it happened to him, for the people trod upon him in the gate and he died.

Choose whom you serve carefully. Choose what you profess carefully. -- For as you believe so shall you receive. But what you reject, so you will not receive.
I find it interesting that the first link mentions ‘ going into the tribulation ‘ ....which implies it hasn’t started yet, you have long predicted that we are already in the tribulation.
See two different predictions, two different time lines.
I am not sure this is about who we are serving, this is about who on a human level is conveying true interpretation of Gods word. This is about testing and discerning.
I was really hoping @Heart2Soul would pop in as The Lord had laid many things on her heart about the presidents term dying, but then it would be resurrected. I found that quite interesting, but wondered how it fits this time around. Trump got through the impeachment and can run again, so could this be a case of wrong timing.
I still find it fascinating - you mentioned March the 4th in one of your posts.
Rita
 
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:) Anything to excuse themselves from the buffoonery they supported for the last few months about their Orange Messiah Trump. Making false claims about the future, through dreams and visions, and citing God as your source for it comes with serious consequences.



:rolleyes:

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I don’t believe that Taken has ever claimed to be a prophet and I am pretty sure her post was tongue in cheek with regards to my comment about nothing happening in feb, which is fair play even if it’s not actually in context of what I meant.
 
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I find it interesting that the first link mentions ‘ going into the tribulation ‘ ....which implies it hasn’t started yet, you have long predicted that we are already in the tribulation.

:rolleyes: He doesn't know the true meaning of what it means to be oppressed if he believes that. Has he ever had a yoke of iron put on his neck, stark naked? His lineage and history stolen from him and called a "byword"? His wife and child snatched from him? His children used as alligator bait? Has he ever been buck broken? Has he ever had his skin made into pottery and leather? Castrated and Hung from a tree? His cities ransacked and fire bombed at the behest of the state? Beaten and Shot down in the streets, treated like less than a sack of dirt by men in uniform? His farmland taken from him due to government policies? Predatory housing loans foisted on him through red lining? Had the whole law thrown at him in court for trumped up non-violent "offenses"? Denied the right to get an education or grant? Has ANY of this happened to him or any of his family, to be claiming he is going through any true "oppression"? If the answer is no, then you obviously aren't in any tribulation. You will soon know what it means to be oppressed soon though when God starts blowing them trumpets. My people ain't gonna be here when he does, thankfully. We've already suffered long enough, with our long and sordid history in these lands.
 

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:rolleyes: He doesn't know the true meaning of what it means to be oppressed if he believes that. Has he ever had a yoke of iron put on his neck, stark naked? His lineage and history stolen from him and called a "byword"? His wife and child snatched from him? His children used as alligator bait? Has he ever been buck broken? Has he ever had his skin made into pottery and leather? Castrated and Hung from a tree? His cities ransacked and fire bombed at the behest of the state? Beaten and Shot down in the streets, treated like less than a sack of dirt by men in uniform? His farmland taken from him due to government policies? Predatory housing loans foisted on him through red lining? Had the whole law thrown at him in court for trumped up non-violent "offenses"? Denied the right to get an education or grant? Has ANY of this happened to him or any of his family, to be claiming he is going through any true "oppression"? If the answer is no, then you obviously aren't in any tribulation. You will soon know what it means to be oppressed soon though when God starts blowing them trumpets. My people ain't gonna be here when he does, thankfully. We've already suffered long enough, with our long and sordid history in these lands.
I must admit that I have felt the same question rising with regards to the tribulation, it’s been a challenging year and for many it’s been harder and certainly has pushed them, but personally as a Christian it’s not even felt close to a tribulation that is explained in revelation, although bobbyjo is expecting things to get much worse in the coming months and year.
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