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[justbyfaith]

Your denigrating and subversive remarks about the Godhead will not go unnoticed on Judgement Day.

I know that I will be rewarded for the gold, silver, and precious gems that I have built on the foundation of Jesus Christ on my day of judgment.

As a matter of fact, the Father testified to me of this recently by causing a speck of gold to appear on the verse 1 Corinthians 9:17 on the word "willingly" in my Bible. (it is not there any more; it must have fallen off the page as I was reading my Bible; but it most definitely was there: I do have other verses in my Bible that have had specks of gold on them also)

And yes, I was in fact a part of the movement in South Carolina that had reports of gold specks appearing on the heads of people in the middle of the church services and I was witness to some of those events. Others in the same church service also saw what I saw.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

@justbyfaith

I am saddened that you would pronounce condemnation on me on a verse that does not explicitly state what you imagine it states.

The scriptures plainly states that the things regarding God the father and Jesus Christ are a mystery:

Colossians 2:2 KJV
...to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ

I have yet to be shown a scripture that says all who do not acknowledge Jesus is God are not saved.

Because there is none.

Do not pronounce certain judgment on others where the scriptures are uncertain; and most importantly, do not do so without a single, unadulterated, verse to back you up.

 

[justbyfaith]

@justbyfaith

I am saddened that you would pronounce condemnation on me on a verse that does not explicitly state what you imagine it states.

The scriptures plainly states that the things regarding God the father and Jesus Christ are a mystery:

Colossians 2:2 KJV
...to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ

I have yet to be shown a scripture that says all who do not acknowledge Jesus is God are not saved.

Because there is none.

Do not pronounce certain judgment on others where the scriptures are uncertain; and most importantly, do not do so without a single, unadulterated, verse to back you up.

Hi @Michiah-Imla,

I am praying that the Holy Ghost will testify to your spirit that our interpretation of John 8:24 is not incorrect.

I think that the only way you are going to get this understanding is if you receive it as a revelation from the Lord.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

By denying that doctrine, @Michiah-Imla places himself outside of the sphere of salvation in Christ.

@justbyfaith

The sphere that I have placed myself outside of is the sphere you have allowed men to put you in; the sphere of the wisdom of men.

My faith does not stand in the wisdom of men; as the scripture says:

1 Corinthians 2:5 KJV
That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

A simple reading of the full scripture reveals that Jesus was referring to himself as being the light of the world as prophesied in Old Testament:

John 8:12 KJV
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

John 8:24 KJV
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he [the light of the world], ye shall die in your sins.

Here’s the prophecy:

Isaiah 9:2 KJV
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

And Matthew cites the passage here:

Matthew 4:16 KJV
The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

And Paul also wrote of this light:

2 Corinthians 4:6 KJV
For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 5:8 KJV
For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light

Now if your doctrine is correct and sound, please expound it to me with multiple scriptures (as I have done).

As the scripture says:

Isaiah 28:10 KJV
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

And spare me the empty words of “theologians” and the books that they write.

Thanks!

 

[justbyfaith]

I will give you only one scripture at this juncture.

1Jo 1:5, This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Evidence for, if not the proof of, the fact that Jesus is the Lord (God).

 

[DNB]

I know that I will be rewarded for the gold, silver, and precious gems that I have built on the foundation of Jesus Christ on my day of judgment.

As a matter of fact, the Father testified to me of this recently by causing a speck of gold to appear on the verse 1 Corinthians 9:17 on the word "willingly" in my Bible. (it is not there any more; it must have fallen off the page as I was reading my Bible; but it most definitely was there: I do have other verses in my Bible that have had specks of gold on them also)

And yes, I was in fact a part of the movement in South Carolina that had reports of gold specks appearing on the heads of people in the middle of the church services and I was witness to some of those events. Others in the same church service also saw what I saw.

JBF, words can't explain how much you are off your rocker.
I saw an episode on 60 minutes where they exposed the gold dust hoax.

 

[justbyfaith]

JBF, words can't explain how much you are off your rocker.
I saw an episode on 60 minutes where they exposed the gold dust hoax.

Worldly programs will seek to debunk the miraculous; however, they are motivated by a desire to keep others from having faith; and are not based in reality.

I have also had specks of gold appear at certain places in my Bible since I saw those events in the church I attended. It is not a hoax but a reality.

However, if you think that seeing is believing, you are sadly mistaken.

Believing is seeing.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Evidence for, if not the proof of, the fact that Jesus is the Lord (God).

You are not understanding me @justbyfaith

I am not denying that Jesus is God.

But what I am challenging is your assertion that unless you believe Jesus is God you will die in your sins.

Show me the scripture that says this please.

 

[justbyfaith]

You are not understanding me @justbyfaith

I am not denying that Jesus is God.

But what I am challenging is your assertion that unless you believe Jesus is God you will die in your sins.

Show me the scripture that says this please.

John 8:24.

 

[DNB]

Worldly programs will seek to debunk the miraculous; however, they are motivated by a desire to keep others from having faith; and are not based in reality.

I have also had specks of gold appear at certain places in my Bible since I saw those events in the church I attended. It is not a hoax but a reality.

However, if you think that seeing is believing, you are sadly mistaken.

Believing is seeing.

You are off you rocker right now JBF, you're expressing to everyone that you're not to be taken seriously.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

John 8:24.

No, my friend.

I have already showed you the context of that verse out of scripture; If you are going to ignore it, then there’s no need to continue this discourse.

You are simply tying in that verse to the “I AM” in the Old Testament without strong enough support.

 

[justbyfaith]

You are off you rocker right now JBF, you're expressing to everyone that you're not to be taken seriously.

2Co 5:13, For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.

Hos 9:7, The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know it: the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred.

2Ti 1:7, For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

I think that in the days of the New Testament Paul the apostle might have been considered to be "off his rocker" for preaching the resurrection of Christ.

Such a thing is insane. People don't rise from the dead.

 

[justbyfaith]

No, my friend.

I have already showed you the context of that verse out of scripture; If you are going to ignore it, then there’s no need to continue this discourse.

You are simply tying in that verse to the “I AM” in the Old Testament without strong enough support.

There is enough support for it for me to fear it and heed it.

If you do not have the same fear of the LORD then I don't know what I can do for you.

As for me and my house we will serve the LORD.

 

[justbyfaith]

The context there is “if you do not believe that I am he [spoken of in the scriptures as being Messiah].

The context there is that the "He" Jesus was speaking of was the Father (John 8:27).

 

[justbyfaith]

No, my friend.

I have already showed you the context of that verse out of scripture; If you are going to ignore it, then there’s no need to continue this discourse.

You are simply tying in that verse to the “I AM” in the Old Testament without strong enough support.

In John 8:58 there is stronger support for tying in the verse to Exodus 3:14; for Jesus breaks normal grammatical usage to make a claim.

The Pharisees understood His claim and picked up stones to stone Him for blasphemy (John 8:59) and because "that thou, being a man, makest thyself God." (John 10:31-33)

If you tie that in to John 8:24 you can be certain that Jesus is there making the claim that belief in His Deity is essential to salvation as a doctrine.

 

[DNB]

2Co 5:13, For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.

Hos 9:7, The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know it: the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred.

2Ti 1:7, For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

I think that in the days of the New Testament Paul the apostle might have been considered to be "off his rocker" for preaching the resurrection of Christ.

Such a thing is insane. People don't rise from the dead.

But, you have a precedence in the Bible for Paul's testimony, ...none whatsoever for gold-dust phenomena, neither in the event, nor in context.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

The context there is that the "He" Jesus was speaking of was the Father (John 8:27).

Yes, that he sent him!

John 8:26-27 KJV
I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; ...They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

 

[justbyfaith]

But, you have a precedence in the Bible for Paul's testimony, ...none whatsoever for gold-dust phenomena, neither in the event, nor in context.

Except for the fact that these things have actually occurred.

I believe that the presiding pastor in those events commented that it must have been that angels were sweeping the streets of heaven and some of the dust was falling into the church building.

 

[justbyfaith]

Yes, that he sent him!

John 8:26-27 KJV
I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; ...They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

Verse 27 is also referring back to verse 24.

 

[justbyfaith]

Mat 9:23, And when Jesus came into the ruler's house, and saw the minstrels and the people making a noise,
Mat 9:24, He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.
Mat 9:25, But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose.