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Truther

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Not using those terms. Belief that gets us into Christ isn't merely mental consent. Real faith includes trust, which changes our way of life and way of seeing the world and well, everything. It's spiritual, therefore through the Holy Spirit, not just head knowledge.
Please explain the difference between real faith and mustard seed faith.
 

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It says that our access into grace is by faith.

Jesus is the door; faith is the key; and grace is the mansion.
 
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Again, semantics. Both are true. Real mustard seed sized faith is enough, the Holy Spirit does the rest.
Well, this "real faith" talk is for the birds.

God uses teeny faith to move mountains.
 

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Well, this "real faith" talk is for the birds.

God uses teeny faith to move mountains.
But we are warned about having genuine faith, not fake faith.

. Matthew 15:8 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.

Isaiah 29:13 And so the Lord says, “These people say they are mine. They honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. And their worship of me is nothing but man-made rules learned by rote.
 

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But we are warned about having genuine faith, not fake faith.

. Matthew 15:8 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.

Isaiah 29:13 And so the Lord says, “These people say they are mine. They honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. And their worship of me is nothing but man-made rules learned by rote.
No, we are warned of no faith(unbelief).

There is no such thing as fake faith.

The devil's don't even have fake faith, because they tremble.

People call the parable of the sower, 3 of the 4, fake faith types.

No, they just can't hang.
 

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I think God gives EVERY man the measure of faith, but some just give it back.
 

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I think God gives EVERY man the measure of faith, but some just give it back.
That's very confusing. We can obviously choose to increase our faith or decrease it, and yes, many think they have real faith but don't:
Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven”

 

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Peter was wrong in Acts 2:38?

That is not a wrong or right, situation.
That is an apostle who is been given a specific gift of The Spirit and was not water baptized to get it.
He is filled with the Spirit, and was not water baptized to get it.
So what does that mean?
It means that all water cults are lying to you.
That is what Act 2:38 is showing you.

Also, Peter is teaching and preaching, what he understands at that time...
Thats all it is..
Later, this apostle does not preach or teach John the Baptist's OT message , but in Acts 2, He does.
Much later, in 2nd Peter, He is proclaiming Paul's letters as equal to the Torah, at that time, while he is reading them.
And he is right, as later... Paul's letters created most of the New Testament and Doctrine for the Church.
 

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So, we can only die, and not be buried with Christ?

Do they leave the corpses laying where they died in your part of the country?

I was water baptized 11 yrs after i was born again.
I was called by God into the ministry, before i was water baptized.
Peter in Acts 2, is filled with the Spirit and given a GIFT of the Spirit, and was not water baptized in that chapter.
Abraham, the Father of our Faith, was not water baptized.

So, being water baptized, is good, but, trying to prove that water is what God uses to bring you into his Spiritual family, is heresy that the JW's teach, and all the other water cults.

If you are in one, then get out of it.
 

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Peter preached the 1st message of the church.

He concluded by telling the sinners they must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins.

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Well, again.

Peter was preaching John the Baptist's message that he gave to the House of Israel.
Jesus said of John the Baptist that he was greater then the original 12 apostles.

So, the issue isn't what Peter was preaching, the issue is, not understanding that He was preaching that message until he got the revelation that Paul was given by Jesus, LATER.

And that revelation is the "Gospel of the Grace of God"...."Justification by faith"...>"the GIFT of Righteousness".
This is what Paul calls "my Gospel", and Peter didnt preach that gospel in Acts 2, because he was not aware of it, yet, as Paul arrived later.
 

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The Holy Ghost is absolutely promised as the result of being water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth for the remission of sins (Acts of the Apostles 2:38-39).
Was John the Baptist wrong to baptize?
Furthermore, Jesus also took up the ministry of baptism in John 4:1-2. y.

There is so much terrible theology that you always post.
I could just respond to your posts, and never Thread, .. such is the level of the dark light that you put out that needs to be cut off.

Listen.
The Holy Spirit comes to live in every born again person....>"he that hath not the Holy Spirit is none of Gods'.
See that verse?
That is all the born again........not the water baptized.

God justifies us, with the Blood of Jesus, through our faith.

WE take Christ, and God takes us.
Do you understand this?
If you do, then stop trying to recruit for the Jehovah's Witness church, on this Forum, by teaching their false Gospel.

Also, Jesus never Himself water baptized anyone.
 

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That's very confusing. We can obviously choose to increase our faith or decrease it, and yes, many think they have real faith but don't:
Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven”
If you really wanted to do the will of God, you would obey Acts 2:38.
 

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That is not a wrong or right, situation.
That is an apostle who is been given a specific gift of The Spirit and was not water baptized to get it.
He is filled with the Spirit, and was not water baptized to get it.
So what does that mean?
It means that all water cults are lying to you.
That is what Act 2:38 is showing you.

Also, Peter is teaching and preaching, what he understands at that time...
Thats all it is..
Later, this apostle does not preach or teach John the Baptist's OT message , but in Acts 2, He does.
Much later, in 2nd Peter, He is proclaiming Paul's letters as equal to the Torah, at that time, while he is reading them.
And he is right, as later... Paul's letters created most of the New Testament and Doctrine for the Church.
Peter was neither wrong or right?

Or, is it you are wrong and Peter was right?
 

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I was water baptized 11 yrs after i was born again.
I was called by God into the ministry, before i was water baptized.
Peter in Acts 2, is filled with the Spirit and given a GIFT of the Spirit, and was not water baptized in that chapter.
Abraham, the Father of our Faith, was not water baptized.

So, being water baptized, is good, but, trying to prove that water is what God uses to bring you into his Spiritual family, is heresy that the JW's teach, and all the other water cults.

If you are in one, then get out of it.
How terrible.

They buried alive an 11 year old?....

3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death...
 

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Well, again.

Peter was preaching John the Baptist's message that he gave to the House of Israel.
Jesus said of John the Baptist that he was greater then the original 12 apostles.

So, the issue isn't what Peter was preaching, the issue is, not understanding that He was preaching that message until he got the revelation that Paul was given by Jesus, LATER.

And that revelation is the "Gospel of the Grace of God"...."Justification by faith"...>"the GIFT of Righteousness".
This is what Paul calls "my Gospel", and Peter didnt preach that gospel in Acts 2, because he was not aware of it, yet, as Paul arrived later.
John preached this?...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
 

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There is so much terrible theology that you always post.

And yet I always give scripture to substantiate my pov....so you're saying that there is terrible theology in the holy scriptures.

If you do, then stop trying to recruit for the Jehovah's Witness church, on this Forum, by teaching their false Gospel.

What I am preaching has nothing to do with the Jehovah's Witnesses or their false gospel.

Also, Jesus never Himself water baptized anyone.

People were baptized underneath His ministry (John 4:1-2).
 

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If you really wanted to do the will of God, you would obey Acts 2:38.
Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.

Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

Now baptism is a good testimony. But thinking it saves you is belief in works, not Jesus.
 

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Now baptism is a good testimony. But thinking it saves you is belief in works, not Jesus.
Believer's baptism in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth for the remission of sins is an identification with the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

And as such, it is a confession of Jesus before men.

Now read Matthew 10:32, Luke 12:8 for information as to whether or not such a thing might save a man.
 

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Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.

Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

Now baptism is a good testimony. But thinking it saves you is belief in works, not Jesus.
That is real lazy of you.

Question. Did you "confess" Jesus?

Did you know that confession is work?

Did you make a "decision for Jesus"?

Did you know that thinking is work?

Are you saved by any of these things?

Or, were you saved by God before you thought or confessed(God thought or confessed for you)?