Well, i didnt recognize the Queen James Bible.
So, ive not read all the new versions.
And neither should you.
There is nothing wrong with reading different translations of the Bible. It can sometimes help you discover or understand the correct meaning, even if you don't trust the accuracy of those translations.
If you would not mind, dont Post the NIV, or the Living Bible, or the Book of Mormon, or a JW book, or anything written by a Catholic.
Its probably best to quote the KJV, as most have seen it.
I have never quoted any of those translations or publications. But just quoting a different translation from the one you prefer is no reason for you to accuse somebody of deliberately changing some words and trying to deceive. Why not show some love for a change, instead of hate?! ("He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now", 1 John 2:9; "For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another", 1 John 3:11; "We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death", 1 John 3:14.)
If you're too lazy to look it up in your favourite translation, then okay, I'll do it for you. Here is my reply again with all quotes from the KJV (they're not so different, so I'm surprised you didn't recognise them):
(1 John 2:1) My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
Anyone who is begotten again can still commit sins, for "As it is written, “There is none righteous, no, not one”" (
Romans 3:10). But Jesus is our advocate, who intercedes to God for us.
1 John 1:7-10:
7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
We are not perfect yet, we are not sinless yet. We won't be until we are resurrected (born again), when we will then be given a perfect, immortal spirit body.
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While I'm at it, let me quote some other verses from 1 John:
16) If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
Or as the REB translates it ;):
16) If anyone sees a fellow-Christian committing a sin which is not a deadly sin, he should intercede for him, and God will grant him life - that is, to those who are not guilty of deadly sin. There is such a thing as deadly sin, and I do not suggest that he should pray about that.
So this is suggesting that Christians can sin. And yet in another verse he suggests the opposite (you'll like this verse ;)):
3:9) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
or (Darby):
3:9) Whoever has been begotten of God does not practise sin, because his seed abides in him, and he cannot sin, because he has been begotten of God.
(The Greek word that is translated as "born" is the exact same word that is translated as "begotten" and "begat" in the verse above and the verse below. It has to be translated according to the context because there are not different words for begat, begotten and born in the Greek. "begotten" is the obvious correct translation in 3:9 because it mentions that God's seed remains in him, i.e. he has been begotten and not born yet.)
So we cannot suppose that John would say one thing and then a little later contradict himself. I therefore believe he is suggesting that Christians can sin, but that our intention should be that we don't sin, and if we do sin, despite our efforts not to, then we can confess our sins in prayer to God and He will forgive us for those sins. God knows that although we have been begotten again as new creatures in Christ, we live in imperfect human bodies, and so we cannot live perfectly and sinless. But we can have perfect intentions, and God can and does read our hearts and judges us by our faith and intentions. We can have perfect intentions, even if our imperfect bodies prevent us from living up to that perfect standard.
This is what I believe Paul is saying in Romans 7 and 8:
7:25) I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
8:1) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
8:2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
8:3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
8:4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
8:5) For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
8:6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
8:7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8:8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
8:9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
8:10) And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
8:11) But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Regarding who is "born again":
5:1) Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
or (ASV):
5:1) Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is begotten of God: and whosoever loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
I do believe that Jesus is the Christ (Messiah), so according to your preferred translation I am born again. According to a more precise study and translation, I am begotten again. According to the KJV, if you are born again then you love me, so thank you. :) I love you too!

