Stan B
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And that’s why God told Jeremiah to not even pray for these Queen of Heaven worshippers, because He would not listen. Seems that they had already irretrievably committed themselves to this Satanic creature.
Who is the Queen of Heaven.
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Ronald Nolette
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Oh his kingdom is forever! And Jesus reigns over the house of Jacob. but as to the Millenial Kingdom? that Kingdom belongs to the Father and He allows the Son to reign until Jesus defeats teh last enemy!
1 Corinthians 15:23-28
King James Version
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
See verse 24? It does not contradict Luke 1:32! Did you notice in verse 24 He delivers up THE Kingdom? That is th ewhole planet earth!
Jesus stays King over Israel as Luke specifically says, but He hands over His reign as Millenial King back to God!
Philip James
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Ronald Nolette
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Because her son is King
That does not make her Queen! Queens rule with their husbands the King(if there is a KIng) and in heaven god the Father is king.
Mary was conceived by Gods the Holy Spirit, which biblically makes god Her husband (two becoming one flesh)
Philip James
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Soloman's queen was his mother Bathsheba.. And so it was, the mother of Israels king is the Queen.
As foe the King of heaven..
"I and the Father are one"
Daughter of the Father,
Mother of the Son,
Spouse of the Holy Spirit,
Virgin daughter of Israel,
Mother of the Church,
Pray for us!
Christ is risen!
Alleluia!
a wrong it Protestants that deny Christ and his holy church and refuse to believe scripture!
justification or salvation by faith alone cannot be biblical!
but you accept them!
Faith and the sacraments are biblical but you reject them!
Jim B
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Wycliffe was not illiterate!
"And the angel entered to her" is meaningless. How does one enter to another?
It doesn't say, "Hail Mary, full of grace". So the RCC added that word.
"the Lord with thee" means what? (the is in italics means that it was added)
The same can be said about "blessed be thou among women." So it actually says "blessed thou among women".
Why not start using a correctly translated Bible? For your level of literacy I suggest the NIV.
Jim B
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"a wrong it Protestants that deny Christ and his holy church" is meaningless.
Justification or salvation by faith alone is biblical.
RCC sacraments are anything but biblical for Christians (unless you're still under the Old Covenant). Anybody who read the Bible can see this for themselves.
Stan B
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Because her son is King
More Queen of Heaven Biblical illiteracy. Jesus was NEVER King of Heaven! He just had a seat beside the King.
"The LORD [Elohim] said unto my lord [Adonai], Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies."
No virgin queen, mother of six children, or any other kind of queen ever mentioned in Scripture.
Is God stupid? Who in all of Scripture forgot to mention His Queen? Or is this Queen merely a servant of Satan?
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Please explain this in light of “faith Alone”?????
Matt 25
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Notice: 46 the righteous, really righteous!
Matt 25
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Notice: 46 the righteous, really righteous!
Who is the Queen of Heaven.
OP^
Queen implies female gender.
Everlasting created beings called spirits are always referenced by a male gender, with Heaven being their First estate.
Who some female queen imposter presuming a title and throne in Heaven, appears to be fantasy contoured up in the mindful imaginations of men.
Personally I have never heard of a single Female claiming for herself, she is a queen of heaven.
However Gods own Word says Heaven is Gods Throne.
OP^
Queen implies female gender.
Everlasting created beings called spirits are always referenced by a male gender, with Heaven being their First estate.
Who some female queen imposter presuming a title and throne in Heaven, appears to be fantasy contoured up in the mindful imaginations of men.
Personally I have never heard of a single Female claiming for herself, she is a queen of heaven.
However Gods own Word says Heaven is Gods Throne.
Philip James
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Dear Stan,
You have that all mixed up, Satan hates her more than any other..
His non serviam! Continues to be echoed by all those who refuse to humble their hearts..
She is first mentioned here:
I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; He will strike at your head, while you strike at his heel."
Pax et Bonum
Christ is risen!
Alleluia!
Jim B
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Genesis 3 is a clear reference to all Eve's sinful descendants. It is not about Mary unless you include her as one of those.
Do they sit on side by side thrones or does she sit on his lap?Because her son is King
Joseph would beg to differ regarding Mary's "perpetual virginity".
It did not take long from after Mary conceived Jesus that Joseph and Mary had their first encounter...
25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.
Oooh la la!
Philip James
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Then Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, and the king stood up to meet her and paid her homage. Then he sat down upon his throne, and a throne was provided for the king's mother, who sat at his right.
Pax et Bonum
Christ is risen!
Alleluia!
Kjv also says the Lord is with thee!
Luke 1:28
King James Version
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Luke 1:28
New International Version
28 The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
Also the Lord is with her!
Luke 1:28
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition
28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Best in my opinion
Where does the Bible alone make the arbiter of truth??
Sacraments instituted by Christ for the salvation of souls!
It’s not a do it yourself religion!
It’s not a bible study!
It’s a covenant!
Not by “faith alone”
“Faith alone” not biblical
You may think “Accept Jesus Christ as you personal Lord and savior” is biblical but there is no such verse in your bible!
Faith and the sacraments in the church founded by the authority Christ on Peter and the apostles is biblical!
Faith and baptism is the biblical initiation into the new covenant and member is Christ and His holy church!
Psalm 51 (baptism)
Ez 36:25-27 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38
You cannot enter a covenant by “faith alone” must be a ritual outward sign!
Faith and baptism! Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38
Merits of christ’s passion, death, and precious blood are applied in the sacraments! Jn 1:16
Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Heb 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
Romans 5:5
And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Lk 1: 72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
There is only one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles and their successors is the new covenant body of Christ! Matt 1:18 & Jn 10:16 one fold
1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
Christ and His church are one: acts 9 why persecute me?
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Sacraments are the fruit of the sacrifice!
The holy sacrifice of Christ, His passion, blood, and death producing unlimited fruits of divine grace, actual and sanctifying grace! Jn 1:29 Jn 1:16-17 Jn 10:10
“This promise” (sacred oath of God or sacrament) of the Father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27 Also a mystery Mk 4:11 Eph 5:32 eph 6:19 1 Tim 3:9 3:16 Col 1:27 2:2 4:3
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Jn 3:5 born again by water and the spirit.
Heb 7:21 For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
(Oath = sacrament)
Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!
The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation
Better covenant on better promises
2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,
Life of supernatural grace merited by Christ in His passion and death!
An oath to sacramental life in the new covenant in union with the mediator and communion with God, and the saints!
Promise of the Father acts 2:23-39
Promise is an oath and an oath is a sacrament! This promise of the sacrament of baptism refers to ez. 36:25-27
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)
St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13
Sealed by God eph 1:13 in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16
Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the ark of salvation by baptism!
Jn 1:5-5 abide in Him, apart from Him you can do nothing.
Jn 10:10 life, (grace more abundantly)
Jn 1: 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
Jn 1:16-17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
(Thru faith and the sacraments!)
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