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I think my comment implies that Mother Teresa trusted in Christ's grace applied to her and had made Jesus her Lord.
Yes, I agree that was your implication. But no, Mother Teresa had NEVER given ANY indication that she had accepted the bloodwork of Jesus Christ as ransom for her sins. To be crystal, “trusting in God’s grace” saves no one. In the countless opportunities that she has been an integral part of, she has never repented before the King or claimed that Jesus Christ is her Lord and Saviour or in any way furthered the gospel message, the bloodwork message, of Jesus Christ.
I doubt she would have devoted her life to the dying in Calcutta if she had not.
Plenty of philanthropists are satanists --
it’s a requirement. It is a maxim within the mystery religions that one’s “bad” deeds must be balanced by one’s “good” deeds. It is a consistent theme found throughout the occult world.
She very clearly proclaimed Jesus to be her Lord and that she was just as much in need of grace as anyone else.
Then it should be an easy task for you to produce the evidence that Mother Teresa said she had accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Saviour and is born again. Alas, there is none.
I think you are too hung up on the magic words here as a way of cutting people off from grace.
They cut
themselves off from the free gift of eternal life. And grace saves NO ONE --- BLOOD DOES -- i.e. faith in the completed bloodwork of Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour and nothing else.
Anyway, I suggest you read up on people and their beliefs..
Indeed I have.
...before you condemn them to hell. It is not your place.
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Because you just condemned a woman who did notthing but give her life to the Lord and serve those who were dying alone in the gutters. I dont know what else would lead you to do that other than despising all Catholics. Can you let me in on how you can be so sure Mother Teresa is cut off from Christ?
I condemn no one. Mother Teresa made her choices -- all by herself -- and her recompense, I am assured by my Father, will be just.
It
is my place to declare the truth. If you can refute it, then by all means, edify us all and I will stand corrected. If not, then bear well.
And to make it even easier for those who are loathe to do the research,
here’s a 25-min. video that sums up the situation re: Mother Teresa was nothing more than a roaming amba$$ador for the Catholic papacy.
You are really misguided here. Throughout time, the "State" has almost always been void of faith. Yet, you never see Paul condemning Rome or the Romans. You never see him rallying Christians against any education people were recieving from the sophists of the day. Rather, in many ways, he used that education to help teach people about Christ. We dont have to be against everything that is separate from the Church.
Rather, we’re talking about
spinelessness.
Because of the lateness of the hour, and the prophesied wholesale departure from the historic Gospel of
Jesus Christ, there is much dissension within the ranks of the Christian church in America. This conflict may be boiled down to two basic camps: those that focus on unity in an attempt to reconcile doctrinal differences at virtually any cost, and those that are intensely criticizing the ecumenicism of the former group.
You would criticize me for
naming an individual that has led the church in the wrong direction. Some say that it is unscriptural and unloving to attack individuals by recounting their specific deeds and statements -- or by referring to them with derogatory terms. Others say it is judgmental, and cite scriptures such as "judge not that ye be judged" (Matthew 7:1) and "he that is without sin let him first cast a stone" (John 8:7).
The scriptures however, repeatedly show that the Apostles
did udge in certain circumstances where the criticism was warranted. This judgment occurs both within and without the church. Indeed, beginning with John the Baptist's reproof of King Herod for having his brother's wife (Luke 3: 19), we see a consistent pattern wherein the believer is firmly admonished to stand up and confront the evil before us.
Ephesians tells us to "have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." (Ephesians 5:11). The dictionary tells us the word reproof is "an expression of censure or blame: rebuke, reprimand." The word reprove is even stronger: "to disapprove, condemn" (Webster's 3rd New International Dictionary).
Paul states in II Timothy that this reproof is to "be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine" (II Timothy 4:2). The idea of "out of season" means to do it even when its
inconvenient or seemingly inappropriate; yet the term "longsuffering" modifies this confrontational judgment by tempering it with patience and wisdom. A tall order indeed.
I Corinthians enumerates the acts that will send someone to Hell: "Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God" (I Corinthians 6:9). The preceding covers quite a bit of territory.
The parallel to this rather vivid description of
which sins will bar entrance to the kingdom of God is found in Galatians:
"...Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and such like; of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (Galatians 5:19-21).
In addition to pronouncing judgment on all "which do such things," Paul says the church is qualified to judge among themselves. He writes that "...he that is spiritual judgeth all things" (I Corinthians 2:15). Three chapters later, he writes concerning his judgment relative to a certain matter among the believers in Corinth: "For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed..." (I Corinthians 5:3). He confirms that the Corinthian Christians were authorized to "...judge them that are within" 9 verses later (I Corinthians 5:12).
In the next chapter he points out that because "...the saints shall judge the world," we are certainly authorized to judge among the church when someone has transgressed against the doctrine of Christ. Paul even rebukes the Corinthians for
not judging when he writes "If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church" (I Corinthians 6:4).
While my opponents would say it's wrong to say a specific person is unsaved, Philippians says that the
Apostle Paul frequently told the church at Philippi about specific individuals that had departed from the faith. He wrote "For many walk, of whom I have told you of and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ" (Philippians 3: 18). Paul is doing precisely what
Jude wrote about when he said we should -- "...earnestly contend for the faith that was once delivered unto the saints" (Jude 1:3).
Ultimately, we see
the offenders are named. The earlier mention of Herod (Luke 3:19) is confirmed by Paul's public rebuke of Demetrius (Acts 19:24), Hymenaeus and Alexander (I Timothy 1 :20), and other parties that are known to the church but are unrecorded in scripture (Romans 16:17). In one instance, Paul even names
Peter as having been at fault (Galatians 2:11) in a theological dispute.
We see the apostates called a "generation of vipers" in Luke 3:7, "hypocrites" in Luke 11:44, "spots in your feasts" in Jude 1: 12, and "whited sepulchres" in Matthew 23 :27 - all extremely derisive terms.
Clearly, the scriptures provide ample justification for pronouncing a righteous judgment on all who would lead others away from the historic gospel of
Jesus Christ. "Mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." (Romans 16:17).
I agree with you that secular education is insufficient and that people need Christ more than anything else. However, this is not to say that sending a child to school so they can learn to read and write who has no dad at home and the mom has to work 12 hours a day minimum wage to put food in the child's belly is an evil thing.
There is
one mention of a school in the Holy Bible, appropriately run by Tyranus i.e. a tyrant.
Sending a child into Caesar’s venue is no answer to your ‘fatherless home’ scenario. Doing such simply adds insult to injury.
You have no idea the challenges people face around the world...
I sojourned “around the world” for 7+ years,
living with those people you describe, in makeshift abodes, tents, and storage shacks.
They don’t need another handout.
They need the truth.
...and you would condemn them for trying to do their best for their children, rather than come alongside them to encourage them...
In the utter absence of any facts, your vilification tactic is forfeit.
...and provide what is missing: the Gospel of Christ.
Indeed that is what was missing from the life of one Mother Teresa. Like all antichrists,
she denies The Blood ala Jesus the Christ.
Our purpose as believers is to reach out to the godless world around us with the hope of Christ and the message of life. Not to point out to everything they do and condemn them as evil and godless.
Rather, overcome evil with good -- do not join in with their dissimulations!
Of course they are godless! What do you think the world is going to be? To suggest that they either join our little enclaves and educational centers or burn in hell is the exact oppostie of what the early church did.
There’s that spinelessness again. Maybe ‘joining our little enclaves and educational centers’ is what
you have in mind, but it’s not what the Lord said to do.
Either Mother Teresa is an ambassador of Jesus Christ, or she is an ambassador of antichrist. I have provided strong evidence of the latter.
You act as if it is some shocking thing that America is "godless." This is the reality for almost every nation in the world. What makes us different or special? Christians need to wake up and realize that WE are the salt of the earth and stop expecting Washington to form laws and policies that will cause everyone to repent. We are NOT OT Israel.
Indeed, we’re not “OT Israel.” But that’s not the point. “Christians need to wake up and realize that WE are the salt of the earth and stop” promoting/sanctioning the do-good activities of the enemy. Why would you, or anyone born again, even
look to “Washington”? Why would you give life to that dead thing? Be ye holy as he is holy.
For example, Catholics say abortion is wrong -- not because it is murder, but because their pope says it is wrong. That misplaced allegiance is not reckoned by the King of kings as a work of Godly faith.
This statement shows that 1) you arent reading what I have been writing, and 2) you are heartless and calloused towards those who dont do things the way you do them.
Now we’re getting somewhere! 1) I have read what you posted. 2) I’m not “heartless and calloused” (a variation of the “where’s your love, brother?” bleat), because, for one, it takes love to stand for the truth. You’ve finally opened up a bit to reveal some of that frustration that the majority also feel because they are up to their eyeballs in Caesarian bondages and they’re feeling the squeeze big time.
What if a parent sends their kid to public school and then spends an hour every evening reading the Bible to their children and teaching them about the Lord? What if a parent HAS to work all day to provide for their children and cant afford to send their kids to a private Christian school? You need to be a little more gracious and less judgmental as to what actions determine whether a person "serves the Lord" or not.
Back to your frustration level. Yes, we have to meet people where they’re at individually. But
do we continue sinning that grace might abound?
As I posted previously here,
If your reaction to being told that there are faults in Caesar's statutes is to rush to defend them, it is because you cannot envision life without them. This is normal for someone who can only see one kingdom: the kingdom of this world. Yet this world is passing away, as are our own bodies. There is only one thing in life more certain than Caesar's taxes. So we are really here as a test of whether we can “see” and then choose those things that have eternal value. Are our energies devoted to laying up earthly treasures, or treasures in heaven? Are we slaves devoted to building the kingdom of this world, or are we seeking first the kingdom of God? We cannot even know where to begin unless we can see God's kingdom, which is the true meaning of being born again.
Sigh, yes I see you are judging me as well.
Perhaps you are unaware of the higher level of accountability required of one who would be a master. And do you think you are the only one reading this thread? This is not about me; I am just a dumb sheep, a vessel. And I don’t preach to the crowd, I preach to the cloud (of witnesses). Your risk here is minimal; you can log off or simply ignore what you find “uncomfortable.”
First, my kids go to Christian school, not public school (as I have said numerous times that I dont send my kids to public school).
Whose responsibility is it, to raise up Godly seed?
Second, you need to quit propping yourself up as some modern-day prophet.
I could not care less what you may think of me. However, I do know at least one of my callings, and it is in the prophetic. BTW, that’s near the bottom of the list of “desirable” callings. My flesh hates it; they killed Jesus for it; internet forums today are only slightly less hazardous.
Your self-righteous attitude is exactly the type of thing that Jesus attacked with the Pharisees. Stop makeing yourself the standard of what righteousness looks like! Not even Mother Teresa can hold a candle to the lofty view you have of yourself...scary.
It’s not about me or Mother Teresa and you know it. It’s about the situation you find yourself in, and you don’t like it. Rather, quit making excuses and DO the right things. The good news is, there is a way out. God always provides a way where there seems no way. And it’s not so critical
where you start, but it is critical that you do indeed start.
Finally, my only point here is that I am not ready to condem people because they send their kids to public school.
Neither am I. But there’s no need to divert the convo to the point of lying.
Public school in itself is not an evil thing. I know many godly Christians who teach in a public school. Granted, many public schools are becoming dangerous for kids educationally as well as socially. They all need to be evaluated based on wha tthey teach and the influences therein. However, we need to show grace and understand that while many people would LOVE to send their kids to private Christian schools, they simply do not have the capacity to do so. Learning to read and write is not evil....and if the parent is diligent in teaching their kids the Word when they are home...how can you condemn them? Very sad.
When you’ve ceased your “feeling condemned” pretext, we can move on the next step of getting set free. For instance, are you carrying a debt burden? Are you in debt?
You are a Jehovah's Witness are you not?
Man, it must really bug you that I am not readily “slot-able.” We just had the JW’s at our door again yesterday. Lots of spiritual warfare with those unsaved people. But if “evangelical Christianity” had the moxy the JW’s have, we might not be having this discussion.
There is a curse over all of denominationalism. But that’s another story...
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
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