mjrhealth said:
What you and some dont understand Bard, is Jesus could never brake tegh law, even when He did, why?/ Simply He did what God would do, He walked in love, Love fullfills the law. The Pharisees like some, where out to keep the letter of the law, even to the extent of letting people die rather than heal them Christ came to show them how wrong they where. So on teh Sabbath when no man could work, Christ did the opposite, but the works He did where not His own they where the works of God, He healed the sick, set the prisoners free, caused the lame to walk, healed the leppers, caused teh blind to see, yet those pharisees who where blinded by the law could not see, all they saw was the law beibg broken by "this man how dare He trangress teh aw, how dare he sit with the sinners, how dare He speak against us", teh yhated Him because He was undoung" al ltheir good works", which where not good because it was all "unbelief" disobedience".
Hos 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
Hos 6:7 But they like men have transgressed the covenant: there have they dealt treacherously against me.
Yet still here we have "christians" offering sacrifices.
Unbelief as I said before, is what is keeping so many christians away from God, it is pure disobedience.
In all His Love
I thought I had you in my ignore list.
Ahh, well...again, you have made a false accusations against me.
Here is what I have actually said:
ewq1938, on 02 Oct 2015 - 12:40 AM, said:
That's where we disagree. Christ knew he was breaking the law, and used two examples showing why he could without blame then lastly said he was above the law of the Sabbath anyways. It was an impressive and strong defense.
Mat 12:10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
Mat 12:11 And he said unto them,
What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
Mat 12:12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
This is not a defense. This is a simple statement. It is lawful to do well on the sabbath days. It always had been. Even His accusers took care of their animals on the sabbath.
Mar 3:1 And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand.
Mar 3:2 And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him.
Mar 3:3 And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand,
Stand forth.
Mar 3:4 And he saith unto them,
Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.
Mar 3:5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man,
Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
Mar 3:6 And the Pharisees went forth, and straightway took counsel with the Herodians against him, how they might destroy him.
And again, Jesus did not defend Himself...it was always lawful to save life on the sabbath.
Luk 14:1 And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him.
Luk 14:2 And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy.
Luk 14:3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying,
Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?
Luk 14:4 And they held their peace. And he took him, and healed him, and let him go;
Luk 14:5 And answered them, saying,
Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?
Luk 14:6 And they could not answer him again to these things.
They could not answer Him because they knew He told the truth. If they had continued to accuse Him at that point, they would also be accusing themselves.
Luk 13:10 And he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the sabbath.
Luk 13:11 And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself.
Luk 13:12 And when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her,
Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity.
Luk 13:13 And he laid his hands on her: and immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.
Luk 13:14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.
Luk 13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said,
Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?
Luk 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?
Luk 13:17 And when he had said these things, all his adversaries were ashamed: and all the people rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by him.
This is perhaps the best example of what we're talking about. Jesus never broke the law, He upheld it. And He rightly named His accusers as hypcrites...
Mar 2:25 And he said unto them,
Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
Mar 2:26 How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
Mar 2:27 And he said unto them,
The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
This is obviously the incident you are talking about. You seem to think this is a defense...but notice what He says here:
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The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath" Now, it was Jesus, Himself, Who wrote the Ten Commandments in the first place. Here He is telling us the purpose of the 4th Commandment...the Sabbath was never meant to be a burden. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Are you a member of the species known as "mankind"? The Sabbath was made for you!
And what else does He say?
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Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."
This is definitely
NOT a defense.
Rather, this is a bold statement of Lordship.
The Lord of the Universe, is also Lord of the Sabbath.
Because I love and worship Him, I will obey Him...and keep His Holy Sabbath.
You probably ought to read what people have said before you criticize, Mj...
Stuff like this is the reason I had you on ignore in the first place.