SovereignGrace
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Exactly. Omniscience is what God knows, foreknowledge is how He knows His elect ppl.
Romans 8
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Anthony D'Arienzo
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[Where is the part that says that God's choosing was not based on His knowing us ahead of time?]
God knows us; We are only told that He chooses us because He wanted to.
that God foreknew us, and having foreknown us, that we would be those who would receive Jesus (John 1),
No....no one receives Him of their own will.
John 1:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Do you see this? No one can do this on their own. There is nothing for God to see but sinners who rebel against Him.
[and so predestined us to become like Jesus?]
No...2._____ Although God knoweth whatsoever may or can come to pass, upon all supposed conditions, yet hath he not decreed anything, because he foresaw it as future, or as that which would come to pass upon such conditions.
( Acts 15:18; Romans 9:11, 13, 16, 18 )
[Where is the part that says that God's choosing was not based on His knowing us ahead of time?]
God knows us; We are only told that He chooses us because He wanted to.
that God foreknew us, and having foreknown us, that we would be those who would receive Jesus (John 1),
No....no one receives Him of their own will.
John 1:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Do you see this? No one can do this on their own. There is nothing for God to see but sinners who rebel against Him.
[and so predestined us to become like Jesus?]
No...2._____ Although God knoweth whatsoever may or can come to pass, upon all supposed conditions, yet hath he not decreed anything, because he foresaw it as future, or as that which would come to pass upon such conditions.
( Acts 15:18; Romans 9:11, 13, 16, 18 )
Anthony D'Arienzo
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James White toasted Adrian Rogers when he responded to his message and false teaching.
Adrian Rogers was completely blind on this.
Anthony D'Arienzo
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Anthony D'Arienzo
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I have heard Adrian Rogers on the radio. He was an excellent preacher.
Foreknowledge is how God knows the end from the beginning. So another attempt to twist the meaning of words.
Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them. (Isa 42:9)
And if all would believe, all would be elect according to the foreknowledge of God: Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. (Isa 45:22)
Anthony D'Arienzo
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Preacher4Truth
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What did you think when James got angry with Adrian during the debate? Justified?
The video you posted was not a debate. It was White's radio show.
Preacher4Truth
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Anthony D'Arienzo
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Yes...they did not want to face him, so he goes over every main part of two of Adrian Rogers sermons and shows how his argument like yours has no biblical background. my wife and I had already tore it apart before we heard Dr.White totally dismantle his foolish presentation.
He is a good speaker, and on other issues, he might be beneficial, such as family living, etc....but he was not quite up to it, on this topic.
Anthony D'Arienzo
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Those who oppose you on here have interacted with Leighton Flowers for years, on baptistboard... we exposed his false ideas for years. P4T nailed him on several heresies a,d wrong ideas. leighton is a pleasant person, a nice, guy except for his man-centered theology, which makes him dangerous.
If you are listening to him and the foolish Kevin Thompson, you are in trouble as neither one is helpful. I am not saying this to be rude, it is just a fact.
Michael Brown is more solid than both of them, and I believe in time he will study his way out of his error as God opens his understanding.
That was White's show and he chose not to face the others.
I posted plenty of other videos by other people that take Calvinism apart. But you refuse to watch them.
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