Should Christians not participate in Halloween?

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I guess next year will be the official year I start no longer participating. I took my daughter a few places as a Bumblebee before this forum and the message I heard against it. But Ive always gone back and forth on it, and I drifted away from when I originally believed this way. It might be hard for my daughter when she sees her friends dressing up, but Ill meet those challenges more as she gets older. Decide our own traditions. I havent decided about cartoons and the like on Halloween. That is all there is on PBS this month. But I have a year to pray about it. But went to church tonight and it was a great Bible study.
 
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We had more than 500 children last night. People were scrambling to local stores to buy more candy. We sure didn't expect such a turnout.... we thought, at the max, 300.
We had four giant inflatable "bounce houses", and 33 "Trunk or Treat" cars... and a giant screen loop-showing the Charlie Brown Pumpkin video.
 

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Medieval Religion. In Europe during the Medieval times the only recognised religion was Christianity, in the form of the Catholic religion. The lives of the Medieval people of the Middle Ages was dominated by the church. Catholic preachers could preach what they liked because people could not check scriptures to see if they were liars or not. Most of them were liars and wolves in sheep clothing. People needed to pay hard earned cash to the church, believing they would receive salvation as told by the pope's liars....this was one of the major issues that triggered the reformation, and thank God for that.
Hi Triumph,

Stop re-writing history or take the time to learn it. People that could read did "check scriptures to see if they were liars or not." What you have written is NOT TRUE. Stop reading anti-Catholic history and just read history. It is true some reformation needed to be done in The Church, especially the abuse of indulgences. The Reformation crew had MANY doctrinal disagreements with The Church. Does the number 95 sound familiar?

If the priest during medieval times were liars and wolves in sheep clothing then what has the Reformation wrought? The acceptance of new doctrines that are not biblically based since the Reformation by Protestant Churches are all inconsistent. They all know the CC and other Protestant Churches are wrong and they are right. So the wolves in sheep clothing have INCREASED since the Reformation so much to the point that Protestant churches are now teaching that gay marriage and abortion conform to the teachings of Scripture and baptism is just a symbol.

@Nancy and @Butterfly should be embarrassed for "liking" your lie.

Mary

5 Causes of the Protestant Reformation (Besides Indulgences)
 

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Let’s keep it real, and live in the whole truth
OK kiddo....lets keep it real and live in the whole truth. Back up what you said with facts....that would be real.

Stop being mean/antagonistic.....that would be real CHRISTIAN like.

Patient Mary
 

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Hi Nancy,

Word to what part? Parts of his post are not true....

I obviously agree with all he wrote, and he is NO troll! He is one of the strongest men in Christ that I know. His faith is firm. I would easily agree with him over you any day, at least he does not come off as angry and sarcastic all the time. More bees with honey than with vinegar! Some people act as if they were baptized in vinegar and, those I stay away from...always critical, always RIGHT. We are not robots and we will believe what WE see as right, not you. Also, may I ask which post of his I was replying, have read a ton of other posts since!
 
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"Triumph1300, "posted: Medieval Religion. In Europe during the Medieval times the only recognised religion was Christianity, in the form of the Catholic religion.
This is a factual statement, at least as far as the predominant religion goes There were Druids, and such around.

The lives of the Medieval people of the Middle Ages was dominated by the church.
True again.

Catholic preachers could preach what they liked because people could not check scriptures to see if they were liars or not.
Another true statement.

Most of them were liars and wolves in sheep clothing.
Many, at least.

People needed to pay hard earned cash to the church, believing they would receive salvation as told by the pope's liars....this was one of the major issues that triggered the reformation, and thank God for that.
Can't argue with that.
 

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"Triumph1300, "posted: Medieval Religion. In Europe during the Medieval times the only recognised religion was Christianity, in the form of the Catholic religion.
This is a factual statement, at least as far as the predominant religion goes There were Druids, and such around.

The lives of the Medieval people of the Middle Ages was dominated by the church.
True again.

Catholic preachers could preach what they liked because people could not check scriptures to see if they were liars or not.
Another true statement.

Most of them were liars and wolves in sheep clothing.
Many, at least.

People needed to pay hard earned cash to the church, believing they would receive salvation as told by the pope's liars....this was one of the major issues that triggered the reformation, and thank God for that.
Can't argue with that.

WORD again! (1st one was for Triumph)
How do people think the CC has gotten so very rich?? I think some folks on here like to re-write history :rolleyes:
 
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I obviously agree with all he wrote, and he is NO troll! He is one of the strongest men in Christ that I know. His faith is firm. I would easily agree with him over you any day, at least he does not come off as angry and sarcastic all the time. More bees with honey than with vinegar! Some people act as if they were baptized in vinegar and, those I stay away from...always critical, always RIGHT. We are not robots and we will believe what WE see as right, not you. Also, may I ask which post of his I was replying, have read a ton of other posts since!
Hi Nancy,

So you personally know Triumph 1300 and what kind of person he is? Or are you making that judgment on the words he writes?

You say Angry and sarcastic.....I say blunt/to the point. I am not an angry person and I don't intend to be sarcastic..... :rolleyes:

It is not me who is always critical and right. I just repeat what Christianity has been teaching for 2,000 years and I believe it is right. If you think I am being critical by repeating 2,000 years of teaching then so be it.

You, and most others on this forum, have accepted the 500 year teaching of the various Protestant doctrines that you pick and choose from to fit what YOU believe......like you are in a cafeteria! I am not in a cafeteria....I am in The Church and The Church is in me.

You have me a bit confused. In the first part of your post you say that you agree with all that he wrote. Later in the post you then ask which post of his you were replying to. Soooooo that's a bit confusing to me....none the less the answer is.......Your post from yesterday (#320) is what you were replying to!

In that post he said people (in medieval times) could not check scriptures to see if they (priest) were liars or not. Since you agree with everything he said do you have any historical evidence to back it up?

Mary
 

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WORD again! (1st one was for Triumph)
How do people think the CC has gotten so very rich?? I think some folks on here like to re-write history :rolleyes:
Well, let's be fair and also point out that many, many Protestant preachers live VERY well from exploiting "Religion" and duping gullible followers.
 

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"Triumph1300, "posted: Medieval Religion. In Europe during the Medieval times the only recognised religion was Christianity, in the form of the Catholic religion.
This is a factual statement, at least as far as the predominant religion goes There were Druids, and such around.

The lives of the Medieval people of the Middle Ages was dominated by the church.
True again.

Catholic preachers could preach what they liked because people could not check scriptures to see if they were liars or not.
Another true statement.

Most of them were liars and wolves in sheep clothing.
Many, at least.

People needed to pay hard earned cash to the church, believing they would receive salvation as told by the pope's liars....this was one of the major issues that triggered the reformation, and thank God for that.
Can't argue with that.
Hi Willie,

It is true that the only RECOGNIZED religion was Christianity in the form of the Catholic religion. Who was it recognized by? The secular government....Why? Because the CC was recognized by most to be The Church spoken of in Scripture.

I think we can all be thankful that the lives of the Medieval people of the Middle Ages was dominated by the church instead of Islam. Thank God for the Catholic Church for starting the Crusades.

Mary
 

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Everyone would have to admit and agree that Luther's 95 Thesis were mainly objecting to the abuses centered around "Indulgences." (Largely, financial)

BTW, Luther was a Catholic Monk, and had no original intention of leaving "The Church." He just wanted discussion about cleaning things up.
 
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WORD again! (1st one was for Triumph)
How do people think the CC has gotten so very rich?? I think some folks on here like to re-write history :rolleyes:
Who on here has re-written history? Please quote the words or reference the post where history was re-written......:)

Multimillion dollar structures as churches, jet planes, gold encrusted fixtures in their homes, air conditioned dog houses, multimillion dollar homes, expensive cars and travel, $2,000 suites etc. etc. in Protestant Churches...... How have the protestant churches gotten so very rich Nancy? Matthew 7:3

Mary

PS...not being sarcastic....just blunt. :rolleyes:
 

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Well, let's be fair and also point out that many, many Protestant preachers live VERY well from exploiting "Religion" and duping gullible followers.

I do not discount them, not at all...greed comes in many flavors. But, that does not change the truth about the CC.
 
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Who on here has re-written history? Please quote the words or reference the post where history was re-written......:)

Multimillion dollar structures as churches, jet planes, gold encrusted fixtures in their homes, air conditioned dog houses, multimillion dollar homes, expensive cars and travel, $2,000 suites etc. etc. in Protestant Churches...... How have the protestant churches gotten so very rich Nancy? Matthew 7:3

Mary

PS...not being sarcastic....just blunt. :rolleyes:

As I just said to Willie T., I do not discount the protestant Church's greed, and there are way more Prot. Churchs who are humble and are sincerely doing God's work than not, the televangelists and their huge very expensive "Church's" boats, houses etc. - They are no different. But that does NOT erase the deeds of the CC. in the Medieval times.
 
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Our church probably takes in about 2M a year. (we are about 300 people, including kids) The preacher and his wife rake in a whopping 40k between the two of them.
That Fall-O-Ween we just had... about 7k for 2 hours. The recent revival, about 20k. And that is how it goes week after week. We spend tons of God's money to advance His kingdom

BTW, we pay rent to a huge Bynzetine Catholic Church for the use of three buildings on their property.... and we share one of them, the Fellowship Hall, with them.

Nothing wrong with making money.... just be sure it is spent for God.
 
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Everyone would have to admit and agree that Luther's 95 Thesis were mainly objecting to the abuses centered around "Indulgences." (Largely, financial)

BTW, Luther was a Catholic Monk, and had no original intention of leaving "The Church." He just wanted discussion about cleaning things up.
Hi Willie,

Luther mentions "indulgence" in 33 out of the 95 complaints and "money" in 5 for a total of 38 mentions of money/indulgences. The abuse of money and indulgences by The Church was a prevalent theme in his thesis but the indulgence abuse by the men of The Church does not mean that The Church had a false doctrine. Luther’s writings were mainly an attack on the office of the papacy and of papal authority but he also wanted to have a "discussion about cleaning things up".

Of course when people started questioning his teaching authority he didn't like it: The devil seeing that this sort of disturbances could not last, has devised a new one; and begins to rage in his members, I mean in the ungodly, through whom he makes his way in all sorts of chimerial follies and extravagant doctrines. This won't have baptism, that denies the efficacy of the Lord's supper; a third puts a world between this and the last judgment; others teach that Jesus Christ is not God; some say this, others that; and there are almost as many sects and beliefs as there are heads.I must cite one instance, by way of exemplification, for I have plenty to do with these sort of spirits. There is not one of them that does not think himself more learned than Luther; they all try to win their spurs against me; and would to heaven that they were all such as they think themselves, and that I were nothing! When the pope reigned we heard nothing of these troubles. The strong one (the devil) was in peace in his fortress; but now that a stronger one than he is come, and prevails against him and drives him out, as the Gospel says, he storms and comes forth with noise and fury. (Martin Luther, Letter to Antwerp, 1525)

Historical Mary
 

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As I just said to Willie T., I do not discount the protestant Church's greed, and there are way more Prot. Churchs who are humble and are sincerely doing God's work than not, the televangelists and their huge very expensive "Church's" boats, houses etc. - They are no different. But that does NOT erase the deeds of the CC. in the Medieval times.
Thank you Nancy.....You dodged the main question which was based on your allegation: Who on here has re-written history? Please quote the words or reference the post where history was re-written....

I don't see any post where someone said that the deeds of the CC have been erased in medieval times. Can you reference that post # please?

Mary