The End Of Racism In America

Giuliano said:

You aren't making sense.

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Admit it. What I say will never make sense to you. You see what you want to see. You believe what you want to believe. You have never gone to Qmap.pub to read the posts yourself have you? I doubt it. Don't talk to me about QAnon until you have.

CadyandZoe said:

Admit it. What I say will never make sense to you. You see what you want to see. You believe what you want to believe. You have never gone to Qmap.pub to read the posts yourself have you? I doubt it. Don't talk to me about QAnon until you have.

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I never saw that site before. I just went there. Sure enough -- they were chatting about pedophiles.

Giuliano said:

So you say "America" is spreading disinformation, and the American press is too? Yet you believe vague stories from anonymous sources about anonymous people doing in things in secret.

What I say is that Trump has lost support by not being more honest. If a president wants people to trust him, he needs to be trustworthy. But according to you, I guess we should trust leaders when we see them not telling the truth? That's not rational to me.

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I sort of like the way our country has operated, swinging back and forth between conservative and liberal positions. That's the only way we can be self-correcting. However, the times are changing. The Democrats have set upon a strategy that is radical and socialist. If you don't agree with me, I don't know why?

The radical methodology sees no morality, and freely utilizes media propaganda and outright lies. Trump has been painted as "evil" from before he was elected. This is a strategy to get him "unelected." The country is being stirred up between one faction and another to show that Trump is an "incompetent" President. But the very ones stirring this up are claiming to be the ones who can fix it!

The Democrats have clearly sided against conservative Christian values. It is the party of anything but conservative Christianity. They've gone over to the dark side, and moderate Democrats have almost ceased to exist.

I do understand why so many Black Christians have sided with the Democrats. They think that Civil Rights in recent times has come from socialist programs and from progressive programs. If Blacks are still being discriminated against, and they are, to some degree, then they need government help programs, aka socialism. And if they are being discriminated against, they will need progressive policies such as affirmative action programs and university quotas.

I do think the country is going through some adjustment over racial discrimination, and I do think some of it is legitimate. But it is being hijacked by anti-Christian Democrats and used by the Democratic Media to produce a 2-part society, an elite and the people. This is set up to produce tremendous advantages and security for the "in" group. Those who are not part of this "one-party" system will be on the outside looking in, and will drop to the bottom of society. I can't be in favor of this!

Randy Kluth said:

I sort of like the way our country has operated, swinging back and forth between conservative and liberal positions. That's the only way we can be self-correcting. However, the times are changing. The Democrats have set upon a strategy that is radical and socialist. If you don't agree with me, I don't know why?

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Trump suspending rent for people looks like socialism to me. What about the landlords? Do they have any rights?

The radical methodology sees no morality, and freely utilizes media propaganda and outright lies. Trump has been painted as "evil" from before he was elected. This is a strategy to get him "unelected." The country is being stirred up between one faction and another to show that Trump is an "incompetent" President. But the very ones stirring this up are claiming to be the ones who can fix it!

The Democrats have clearly sided against conservative Christian values. It is the party of anything but conservative Christianity. They've gone over to the dark side, and moderate Democrats have almost ceased to exist.

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Do you know how many Republicans thought Trump was horrible before he won the nomination?


For me "conservative Christian values" means having churches independent, not being the lapdogs of the President, going to him for money and favors, not trying to tell everyone else how to live.

I do understand why so many Black Christians have sided with the Democrats. They think that Civil Rights in recent times has come from socialist programs and from progressive programs. If Blacks are still being discriminated against, and they are, to some degree, then they need government help programs, aka socialism. And if they are being discriminated against, they will need progressive policies such as affirmative action programs and university quotas.

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I don't think the voting rights bill was socialist. I don't think laws forbidding race discrimination in jobs or house are socialist.

I think maybe Christian colleges and some churches are falling for a socialistic agenda when Trump wants to dole out money and favors.

I do think the country is going through some adjustment over racial discrimination, and I do think some of it is legitimate. But it is being hijacked by anti-Christian Democrats and used by the Democratic Media to produce a 2-part society, an elite and the people. This is set up to produce tremendous advantages and security for the "in" group. Those who are not part of this "one-party" system will be on the outside looking in, and will drop to the bottom of society. I can't be in favor of this!

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I find your name-calling inappropriate and inaccurate. Bob Casey is one one of my Senators, and he's a Democrat opposed to abortion. I think he's a good Catholic, but I don't see him wanting to impose Catholic beliefs on other people. Do real Christians rely on government to preach morality?

Quite honestly, if I weren't a Christian and saw some of the stuff from the religious right, I might be tempted to burn some Bibles myself. They're like a new Protestant version of how the Catholics used to be -- they want government to do their bidding. They remind me of Muslims who rise to power by promising to introduce Muslim values -- the way Erdogan has destroyed religious freedom in Turkey. It was very popular to make Hagia Sophia a mosque. It offended Christians, but it was popular with most Turks so Erdogan did it.

The Democratic Party has had race issues a long time -- they just seldom get discussed. It's nothing new. Maybe we could talk better if you could stopped using words like "socialism" to put down Democrats -- it looks like you're trying to scare people to me. You might be surprised to find I could agree with you on some things -- and I think black people do need real change -- and most of the time the spending done to win their votes doesn't help. I wouldn't call that socialism however -- I'd call it wasteful spending to buy votes.

Giuliano said:

And white people are not as easily deceived?

This looks like crazy talk to me. Wild-eyed accusations and the like. I remind you that Satan is the great accuser, and you have a spirit of accusation all over you. So who's being satanic?

I can move like the wind. Can you?

John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

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You need to read my post more carefully, I said they or anyone which would include white people.
As for the rest of your reply, I see where you stand and there is no point trying to reason with you. You can have your communism and the 7 year tribulation too when it comes.

teamventure said:

You need to read my post more carefully, I said they or anyone which would include white people.
As for the rest of your reply, I see where you stand and there is no point trying to reason with you. You can have your communism and the 7 year tribulation too when it comes.

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So calling me a Communist is all you want to say? I was a Republican until Trump won the nomination. You see I don't believe he's really a conservative. Look at how he spends money!

I was asking someone else a question about blacks. You jumped in. You did not comment on what he had written about blacks. So you disagree with what Trekson said? "Systematic racism is a term made up by the left and doesn't really exist. If it does then it would only be in the large democrat run cities where it's to their advantage to keep the black folks down." If you disagreed with him, why respond to my post and not his?

Giuliano said:

So calling me a Communist is all you want to say? I was a Republican until Trump won the nomination. You see I don't believe he's really a conservative. Look at how he spends money!

I was asking someone else a question about blacks. You jumped in. You did not comment on what he had written about blacks. So you disagree with what Trekson said? "Systematic racism is a term made up by the left and doesn't really exist. If it does then it would only be in the large democrat run cities where it's to their advantage to keep the black folks down." If you disagreed with him, why respond to my post and not his?

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A friend to communism is an enemy to us all. If you are a friend to communism that is where the discusion ends.
You are being an apologist for burning Bibles. That's very telling.

Switching to democrat since Trumps election is the worst timing ever.
Now that the left is pure socialist.

teamventure said:

Switching to democrat since Trump's election is the worst timing ever. Now that the left is pure socialist.

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This sounds self-contradictory. And that is not "pure socialists" but
Marxist/Communist/Anarchist. Or Extreme Radical Leftists committed to destroying America. Time to call a spade a spade.

Bernie Sanders was careful to misrepresent himself as a Socialist and run as a Democrat, when in fact he should have been representing Communist Party USA. Now there is no difference between Democrat and Communist.

All those who were formerly Democrats should really vote for Trump. Unless they are also traitors and seditionists.

There will be no true lasting peace until the Prince of Peace returns. Won't be long folks!

Giuliano said:

Trump suspending rent for people looks like socialism to me. What about the landlords? Do they have any rights?

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I'm there. However, there are elements of socialism in social security and in all government laws. When I talk about Socialism, I'm talking about disbanding private companies, making the government the arbiter of what companies can operate and how they operate. And it is a matter of taking from the responsible and giving to the irresponsible.

It's a slippery slope towards Socialism on the Democrat side, and in fact, outright admitted Socialism by such as Bernie Sanders. And Biden supports Bernie Sanders! AOC's Green New Deal, if enacted, will mean government removes the petroleum industry in many ways. What happens to the auto industry? It means the government decides what source of power is safe for people.

The whole bent among the Democrats now is in forcing, by law, the acceptance of certain social mores and norms. The Left has taken over the Democrat Party, and they would force, from the Supreme Court on down, the acceptance of aberrant moral practices that Christians, by conscience, cannot accept. And this is on top of forcing certain environmental values on all, even where those matters are not yet determined by science.

ForHisglory;n2723085 said:

Do you know how many Republicans thought Trump was horrible before he won the nomination?

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Enough of the critiquing of how people think of Trump. He won the election!

ForHisglory;n2723085 said:

For me "conservative Christian values" means having churches independent, not being the lapdogs of the President, going to him for money and favors, not trying to tell everyone else how to live.

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No, conservative Christian values have to do with acceptance of doctrinal orthodoxy and traditional moral values--it isn't dependent on the politic at all. From the Roman Empire to America today, Christianity simply adapts and rejects what is anti-Christian. And the Democrat Party has made a turn towards anti-Christianity.

ForHisglory;n2723085 said:

I don't think the voting rights bill was socialist. I don't think laws forbidding race discrimination in jobs or house are socialist.

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Who said they were? It is a matter of perspective as to whether a voting rights law is really about "discrimination" at all. The Democrats want to sign up anybody, from minorities to illegals. Their thought is that the lowest common denominator is going to want "hand-out" programs.

For example, requiring a voter ID is not in any way discrimination against someone who can't read. If someone can't read, they still have the right to vote. They just have the right to get an education, as well. And that has not been denied them. On the other hand, forcing children to attend certain public schools may be viewed by conservatives as discrimination against the poor and against minorities.

ForHisglory;n2723085 said:

I think maybe Christian colleges and some churches are falling for a socialistic agenda when Trump wants to dole out money and favors.

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Not socialism. Discriminating against churches is fascism.

ForHisglory;n2723085 said:

I find your name-calling inappropriate and inaccurate. Bob Casey is one one of my Senators, and he's a Democrat opposed to abortion. I think he's a good Catholic, but I don't see him wanting to impose Catholic beliefs on other people. Do real Christians rely on government to preach morality?

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They don't *rely* on government to be moral, but they pray for it.

Bob Casey may be Catholic, but how "good" he is is questionable. He may be against abortion, but he is for same sex civil unions. That is not Christian, in my book.

ForHisglory;n2723085 said:

Quite honestly, if I weren't a Christian and saw some of the stuff from the religious right, I might be tempted to burn some Bibles myself. They're like a new Protestant version of how the Catholics used to be -- they want government to do their bidding. They remind me of Muslims who rise to power by promising to introduce Muslim values -- the way Erdogan has destroyed religious freedom in Turkey. It was very popular to make Hagia Sophia a mosque. It offended Christians, but it was popular with most Turks so Erdogan did it.

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I have no clue what you're talking about? The government in the US has always had religion-based views. The imposition of the rights of the Christian religion to express itself, publicly and in government, is a protected right in the Bill of Rights.

ForHisglory;n2723085 said:

The Democratic Party has had race issues a long time -- they just seldom get discussed. It's nothing new. Maybe we could talk better if you could stopped using words like "socialism" to put down Democrats -- it looks like you're trying to scare people to me. You might be surprised to find I could agree with you on some things -- and I think black people do need real change -- and most of the time the spending done to win their votes doesn't help. I wouldn't call that socialism however -- I'd call it wasteful spending to buy votes.

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Treating Blacks as a monolithic voting bloc is taking them for granted by the Democrat Party and is an insult to them. The Democrats have covered over their historic record, which is racist. I'm glad for their change of heart, but how real is the conversion? I think much of it is self-serving and half-hearted. How, for example, is letting in illegal immigrants helping Blacks get jobs?

I use the term "Socialism" because that's what has taken control of the Democrat Party. Bernie calls it Socialism. And I think AOC and other leaders who side with minorities and foreigners have a bent against a free system that seems to favor Whites.

But Socialism is not the answer. Progress is, and it doesn't come by banning Christian prayer, speech, and involvement in government. And it certainly doesn't come by establishing a virtual one-party system like Communism, and forcing it down the throats of all Americans in the name of "Human Rights."

Taking away money from hard-working Americans and giving it to illegals and the irresponsible is immoral. And taking away guns from everybody puts the government completely in charge.

We need to get back to the idea that People rule--not government. That's why I'm a conservative. Those who promise to take complete control in "your interest" will one day place you outside of their favored group. And what will you do then?

Enoch111 said:

This sounds self-contradictory. And that is not "pure socialists" but
Marxist/Communist/Anarchist. Or Extreme Radical Leftists committed to destroying America. Time to call a spade a spade.

Bernie Sanders was careful to misrepresent himself as a Socialist and run as a Democrat, when in fact he should have been representing Communist Party USA. Now there is no difference between Democrat and Communist.

All those who were formerly Democrats should really vote for Trump. Unless they are also traitors and seditionists.

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It does sound self contradictory I was quoting Giuliano with that and yes I agree with you socialist is an understatement now. I'm on your side.

Ron Coates said:

Hi. I do not respect the gays' lifestyle. But I do respect their right to live how they choose, as long as it doesn't harm others. They need Jesus. I believe we all stand on even ground before God. The power of the cross can change them, just like it is changing me.
I agree totally with your view regarding the school system. It's got to do with the United Nations. They really do want to bring in the antichrist. Behind all the trouble around the world is the kingdom of darkness. I've never seen anything like this.
So many Aboriginal people have substance abuse problems. In Canada, horrific things have been done to the native peoples by the church. I'm learning that organizations that are supposed to help people are often full of pedophiles and the like. I find the media makes it difficult to trust what they report because of how they lie.
It's been nice talking with you, Reggie. We'll do it again sometime. Night.

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I agree on the Gay point of yours, I have a mate who turned gay, I can't stand his mate because he is a filth monger, but donny is not truly like him, but he is led astray by the filth monger, by filth monger I mean it's a pain to put up with such depravity that comes out of his mouth, it's done to shock me or to try and make me anger. they provoke me with rubbish against attacks on the Churches, well I can agree in some things that such is correct but it's a superficial shallow position that they are coming from, because such as they are on about has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. they have a Christian man they talk about to me all the time bagging him full on, they had made up a cross to show me in a stupid way some rubbish to try and offend me, I just dismissed it because it was nonsense.

I would say I have a scale rating from 1 to 10 as well on the Gay issue as well, some are fine they do not bother my self at all, but some do get on my goat because they have crossed over the line of having respect for such depravity of theirs, it's the same with anyone, that I will stand up and say as well, even with your good friends, one has to stand up to such things that I do not respect them doing and let them know that. such does not mean that I have rejected them at all.

Another I know Kevy he was nice enough bloke form NZ but as for his depravity with him playing with his little mates, well I just don't understand what the point of doing such is all about, I think it's just down right stupid. even if it was a man with a group of women like so, I don't think it's something to be proud of, I think it's degrading. I am sure one would be embarrassed of such the next day. it's just so silly and foolish and immature and depraved.

I had a mate I have not seen in 16 years, I went up that way and had time to go seen him, well his wife wanted me and he supported her in such, he thought it was a good joke as she showed me her motor all within 10 min standing out in a paddock gate to his property, then drove in and went and showed me their kids and his mum who lives with them. but I love my wife totally and I would never do such a thing to harm her or my daughters, she said it can be just our little secret, no ! it does not work that way, I would feel really bad about such for the rest of my life if I was tempted. what if my wife played up on me that would be a blight on our relationship, not to mention what would my daughters think of me, no to hell with being in such a stupid position, I would of regrated doing such. only a dog would do such a thing. I am proud of myself as I can hold my head up high and I never disrespected old mate or his wife, if they are into such so be it. I don't understand why they are as such tho. he is very wealthy Italian type.
But now that's the way the world is nowadays, I am not shocked by anything, but I am not going to fold over and give up to this world. Jesus is my Lord and Saviour and I abide in him only, he gives me strength. Salvation is not a one off thing, one has to cherish the gift and hold Jesus up for all to see. see the power of Christ what he can do for you by you abiding in him. it's not a one way street, as Jesus said to Nathaniel what he would see.

I am not coming the heavy with the gays or whoever, I feel truly sorry for them but I am not lead astray by such people and I will point to Jesus Christ is the only way forward for all, regardless what the worldly dupes may say nowadays.

I know that I am out of line with the trends of the world nowadays, Well I am fine with that.

I'm fine with that too.

Reggie Belafonte said:

I agree on the Gay point of yours, I have a mate who turned gay, I can't stand his mate because he is a filth monger, but donny is not truly like him, but he is led astray by the filth monger, by filth monger I mean it's a pain to put up with such depravity that comes out of his mouth, it's done to shock me or to try and make me anger. they provoke me with rubbish against attacks on the Churches, well I can agree in some things that such is correct but it's a superficial shallow position that they are coming from, because such as they are on about has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. they have a Christian man they talk about to me all the time bagging him full on, they had made up a cross to show me in a stupid way some rubbish to try and offend me, I just dismissed it because it was nonsense.

I would say I have a scale rating from 1 to 10 as well on the Gay issue as well, some are fine they do not bother my self at all, but some do get on my goat because they have crossed over the line of having respect for such depravity of theirs, it's the same with anyone, that I will stand up and say as well, even with your good friends, one has to stand up to such things that I do not respect them doing and let them know that. such does not mean that I have rejected them at all.

Another I know Kevy he was nice enough bloke form NZ but as for his depravity with him playing with his little mates, well I just don't understand what the point of doing such is all about, I think it's just down right stupid. even if it was a man with a group of women like so, I don't think it's something to be proud of, I think it's degrading. I am sure one would be embarrassed of such the next day. it's just so silly and foolish and immature and depraved.

I had a mate I have not seen in 16 years, I went up that way and had time to go seen him, well his wife wanted me and he supported her in such, he thought it was a good joke as she showed me her motor all within 10 min standing out in a paddock gate to his property, then drove in and went and showed me their kids and his mum who lives with them. but I love my wife totally and I would never do such a thing to harm her or my daughters, she said it can be just our little secret, no ! it does not work that way, I would feel really bad about such for the rest of my life if I was tempted. what if my wife played up on me that would be a blight on our relationship, not to mention what would my daughters think of me, no to hell with being in such a stupid position, I would of regrated doing such. only a dog would do such a thing. I am proud of myself as I can hold my head up high and I never disrespected old mate or his wife, if they are into such so be it. I don't understand why they are as such tho. he is very wealthy Italian type.
But now that's the way the world is nowadays, I am not shocked by anything, but I am not going to fold over and give up to this world. Jesus is my Lord and Saviour and I abide in him only, he gives me strength. Salvation is not a one off thing, one has to cherish the gift and hold Jesus up for all to see. see the power of Christ what he can do for you by you abiding in him. it's not a one way street, as Jesus said to Nathaniel what he would see.

I am not coming the heavy with the gays or whoever, I feel truly sorry for them but I am not lead astray by such people and I will point to Jesus Christ is the only way forward for all, regardless what the worldly dupes may say nowadays.

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Well said. Others stand up for what they believe in and so should we. I try to speak the truth in love and when I'm sure I have, let the chips fall where they may.
I've been celibate for 17 years. Since my last marriage ended. When opportunity has presented itself, I thought about God and I didn't want to do that to Him. Though I wasn't always like that. I'm relieved. Thanks to God and His work in me, I've finally done right by Him in this area. Shalom.

Hidden In Him said:

As a result, the racism that has divided this nation is finally going to be erased from the country forever.

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Yes, when the King of kings comes back and subdues His enemies under His feet.
Until then, dream on, sin is sin and mankind will act accordingly.

Giuliano said:

You saying black folks vote Democratic then because they like to be kept down?

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Apparently, they keep falling for the same democratic lies decade after decade and they're protesting because nothing changes. If JFK were alive today, he would turn on these charlatans posing a caring democrats in a heartbeat. Why is it so hard to see that every single city with racial problems lie Chicago, NYC, Detroit, LA have been democratic led for eons but nothing changes...why?

Heart2Soul said:

Amen! It seems as if everyone is receiving the same message. A call for repentance and unity. Praise God!

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Matthew 3:2 "and saying, Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven has come near."

Trekson said:

Why is it so hard to see that every single city with racial problems lie Chicago, NYC, Detroit, LA have been democratic led for eons but nothing changes...why?

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Also the cities with Democratic black mayors who are also females are a disaster. There must be a correlation.