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Noah, Lot , the baby Jesus. All removed pre judgement

The trib is AFTER the revealing. Really? You think when driving cross country you are mid trip after 10 minutes of driving. AC REVEALED. Oh wait, you think all believers are deceived and only see the devil man after what he does in the HOH? NOW, If true, that is interesting.

Those generalities are for all believers in their walk today. We all believe those verses that apply to today that you transformed to refer to the gt. Your premise took you there. What was Jesus referring to? You are so basically off my friend. All the apostles except John WERE BRUTALLY...

Pretribs are waiting for Jesus You are waiting for the AC. Even the foolish were waiting for Jesus. What does that say for postribbers????

you take one dynamic to form the entire events. Once you get out of that one dimension, factor in OTHER VERSES , the picture changes. 1 the bride 2 the groom 3 the gentile church 4 the covenant Jew 5 the times of the gentiles complete 6 the wedding business in heaven 7 the gathering of the Jews...

is the gathering in rev 14 the second coming on white horses?

The power of a tyrant over people is the brutality. Forced worship. I 100% believe the mark will come immediately. In order to establish control the AC must be murderous and brutal but only toward Christians. We will be labeled as the haters. We will be the only ones to stand directly in the way...

The power of a tyrant over people is the brutality. Forced worship. I 100% believe the mark will come immediately. In order to establish control the AC must be murderous and brutal but only toward Christians. We will be labeled as the haters. We will be the only ones to stand directly in the...

It is kinda comical that it is in fact disagreement that makes the debate lively. We can love each other and disagree. That is the challenge and pleasure of the interaction. I love it when i encounter a hound dog like myself. Dig dig dig...get to the meaning....verses interpreting verses. That...

Especially when we see all earths inhabitants get the mark. How can it be anything but removal?

It is very hard for them. They are forced to refute the bible. That is why they are so frustrated.

Anybody can say that about anybody. When I see the character attacks, it means the attackers are outta gas big time. It is like a surrender.

Yes. Much better to go with "concept vs concept" My verses vs theirs. I love that dynamic.

Going personal is thread killer. Means you lost to my verses.

Is rev 14 gathering of the 144k the 2nd coming?

General mud slinging. You can not debate verses?

Which gathering in mat 24? The one after the trib where it is in heaven, not earth, where angels do the gathering? You just made the case for pretrib rapture. You think omitting the rapture verses helps your theory?

Ok educate me .

I can prove it Rev 15 1And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image...

Just take the mark . It says ALL take it. Just Hope the bible is wrong about the fate of those refusing the mark. Stop pretending some take it. But if you change Gods word to "some", that is your business. Do you have that privilege?