Stan,StanJ said:Come on Butch, that is avoidance and to be productive you have to support your view with ACTUAL scripture, not just allude to the Bible generally.
In 2 Peter 3:9, the Greek ἀπόλλυμι (apollymi) is in regards to physical animation, NOT spirit. Spirits on their own can't repent, only animated or living human beings can.
It's not avoidance, the Scriptures are clear. The ECT doctrine is based on a few mistranslated verses. What are the wages of sin? Death, For God so loved the world that whoever believes may have eternal life and not what? Perish.
Spirits have nothing to do with men perishing. Man isn't a spirit. The whole ETC doctrine is based on a false premise. It's based on the idea that there is a part of man that can live on when the body dies, however, that is not what Scripture teaches.
In the other post I asked you present some evidence for your "spiritual" claim regarding Jude.
Yes, I was using the wicked man analogy to show that the phrase "day and night" doesn't refer eternal but only continuous. Something that is continuous, day and night, could go on forever or it could end. The point what that the length of time is determined by other factors not the phrase day or night.ATP said:But Rev 4:8 and Rev 7:15-16 are not talking about wicked men. It's referring to angelic beings and saints.