2000 years later, only Paul has the authority

[Dryhn]

None of these verses say that the 4 gospels belong to the Old Testament and we should pay attention only to the church epistles.

Nor do they say the gospel proclaimed to the gentiles was different from the gospel proclaimed to the Jews.



Acts 9:15

But the Lord said to Ananias, Go! This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel.


NOTE: Paul was a chosen instrument, but not the only chosen instrument. Paul was just one among many who spread the gospel to gentiles.

Peter preached to Cornelius, a Roman centurion of the Italian Regiment stationed in Caesarea.

Phillip preached to the Ethiopian eunuch.



Romans 11:13,14

I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry

in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them.


NOTE: Paul was preaching to gentiles, but also to Jews.



Romans 15:16

That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.


NOTE: This does not say that nobody else was ministering the gospel to gentiles.

Phillip preached to the Ethiopian eunuch.

Was that BEFORE Gal 2:7-9 or after ? :)

 

[ScottA]

Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 2:7-9 teaches who teaches who

That is all good and true, but it doesn't take away the foundation laid by Israel on which we stand. Nor was the light of Israel unto the gentiles extinguished...except to Israel, for to them "It is finished" indeed. But we have unto the end of the age...and He is with us, in word and in spirit, including all that was before--for He was the Last to Israel, but the First to us... but "the last will be first, and the first last."

 

[Dryhn]

That is all good and true, but it doesn't take away the foundation laid by Israel on which we stand. Nor was the light of Israel unto the gentiles extinguished...except to Israel, for to them "It is finished" indeed. But we have unto the end of the age...and He is with us, in word and in spirit, including all that was before--for He was the Last to Israel, but the First to us... but "the last will be first, and the first last."

Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 2:7-9 teaches who teaches who
Who do those verses teach is the Apostle & Minister to teach you the gospel ?

 

[ScottA]

Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 2:7-9 teaches who teaches who
Who do those verses teach is the Apostle & Minister to teach you the gospel ?

Why only those verses?

The correct answer is, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’”

As for those verses you have listed--they are only part. For Paul ministered and taught regarding the Church age, but denied himself the glory of the finish...which John spoke of, not Paul.

 

[Dryhn]

Why only those verses?

The correct answer is, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’”

As for those verses you have listed--they are only part. For Paul ministered and taught regarding the Church age, but denied himself the glory of the finish...which John spoke of, not Paul.

Is the question too difficult for you to answer ?

 

[ScottA]

Is the question too difficult for you to answer ?

For the record.

 

[Dryhn]

For the record.

Your answer to the question is who ?

Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 2:7-9 teaches who teaches who
Who do those verses teach is the Apostle & Minister to teach you the gospel ?

 

[ScottA]

Your answer to the question is who ?

Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 2:7-9 teaches who teaches who
Who do those verses teach is the Apostle & Minister to teach you the gospel ?

No, your question is who, which is only part, and therefore incorrect. But I have given your the full answer, and you mock. Is this how you choose to be remembered?

 

[Dryhn]

No, your question is who, which is only part, and therefore incorrect. But I have given your the full answer, and you mock. Is this how you choose to be remembered?

Let me help you Scott :)

Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 2:7-9 teaches who teaches who
Paul teaches the gospel to the gentiles/heathen

Who do those verses teach is the Apostle & Minister to teach you the gospel ?
Paul

See, easy

 

[ScottA]

Let me help you Scott :)

Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 2:7-9 teaches who teaches who
Paul teaches the gospel to the gentiles/heathen

Who do those verses teach is the Apostle & Minister to teach you the gospel ?
Paul

See, easy

No thank you--your partial answer is not the truth.

 

[Dryhn]

No thank you--your partial answer is not the truth.

Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 1:11-12, Gal 2:2, Gal 2:7-9 is crystal clear but not to you

 

[ScottA]

Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 1:11-12, Gal 2:2, Gal 2:7-9 is crystal clear but not to you

Yes, clearly a mere fragment of all that is true. Crystal indeed!

 

[Dryhn]

Yes, clearly a mere fragment of all that is true. Crystal indeed!

Go write another book Scotty

 

[David Lamb]

Let me help you Scott :)

Acts 9:15, Rom 11:13, Rom 15:16, Gal 2:7-9 teaches who teaches who
Paul teaches the gospel to the gentiles/heathen

Who do those verses teach is the Apostle & Minister to teach you the gospel ?
Paul

See, easy

But which of those verses tell us that Paul would be the only apostle to teach Gentiles or anybody else after he himself had died and gone to glory? All Scripture is God's word, and as Paul tells Timothy, it is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. He doesn't add, "But only the parts I wrote are for Gentile Christians."

 

[Dryhn]

But which of those verses tell us that Paul would be the only apostle to teach Gentiles or anybody else after he himself had died and gone to glory? All Scripture is God's word, and as Paul tells Timothy, it is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. He doesn't add, "But only the parts I wrote are for Gentile Christians."

""or anybody else after he himself had died and gone to glory""
Well ALL the Apostles have died so which saving gospel applies to you ?
The saving gospel that Christ taught Paul - Gal 1:11-12, 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13
OR
The saving gospel taught by Peter < insert verses here>
Take your time :)

 

[Brakelite]

""or anybody else after he himself had died and gone to glory""
Well ALL the Apostles have died so which saving gospel applies to you ?
The saving gospel that Christ taught Paul - Gal 1:11-12, 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13
OR
The saving gospel taught by Peter < insert verses here>
Take your time :)

The gospel is an everlasting gospel taught by all who are called, and received by all who believe.
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

The gospel was first given to Adam. Now it is given by the final generation. Same gospel... saved by grace through faith... but nuanced for the times

 

[Dryhn]

The gospel is an everlasting gospel taught by all who are called, and received by all who believe.
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

The gospel was first given to Adam. Now it is given by the final generation. Same gospel... saved by grace through faith... but nuanced for the times

1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 is how believers are HS sealed according to Paul

What do your verses teach as to how a believer receives the HS ?

 

[ScottA]

1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 is how believers are HS sealed according to Paul

What do your verses teach as to how a believer receives the HS ?

Let's see if you know what you're talking about: How many ways do "believers receive the HS", and what are they?

 

[David Lamb]

""or anybody else after he himself had died and gone to glory""
Well ALL the Apostles have died so which saving gospel applies to you ?
The saving gospel that Christ taught Paul - Gal 1:11-12, 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13
OR
The saving gospel taught by Peter < insert verses here>
Take your time :)

The gospel in the whole of the New Testament. There are obviously words spoken by Jesus or written in the New Testament that do not apply directly to anybody apart from the person mentioned. For example, Jesus telling Peter to find a coin in the mouth of a fish to pay the temple tax. I would say that is not part of the gospel, but an example of God supplying the needs of His people, which is part of the gospel.

 

[Dryhn]

The gospel in the whole of the New Testament. There are obviously words spoken by Jesus or written in the New Testament that do not apply directly to anybody apart from the person mentioned. For example, Jesus telling Peter to find a coin in the mouth of a fish to pay the temple tax. I would say that is not part of the gospel, but an example of God supplying the needs of His people, which is part of the gospel.

List the verses please like this, easy :)
eg the saving Gospel taught by Paul
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: