7 Common Errors of Interpretation for Chapters 4-6 of Revelation

[The Light]

The Trumpets are only started in the seventh seal.

Correct. And vials or bowls happen in the same timeframe as the trumpets which we can prove as the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord at the 7th trumpet. That means the vials have already occurred.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

The saints are already in heaven and the Jews still remain.

No sir. Contrary to popular opinion, the Church is in heaven before the seals are opened. I read your link and you seem to think that the seals are opened. Not the case. The 1st 6 seals line up with the Olivet Discourse. Has not happened yet.

Additionally the Jews are raptured at the 6th seal BEFORE the wrath of God which I have already shown.
The only Jews on earth during the wrath of God are those in the place of protection that was prepared for them. When Satan can't get to them he goes after her seed. The seed of the woman is the twelve tribes across the earth that keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 12
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

[ewq1938]

I did not ignore what you said. I corrected it with the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal which happens before the great tribulation.

The facts say the 5th seal is the great tribulation.

How exactly is the 5th seal the GT when you claim the 6th seal is before the GT?

 

[Traveler]

Correct. And vials or bowls happen in the same timeframe as the trumpets which we can prove as the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord at the 7th trumpet. That means the vials have already occurred.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.



No sir. Contrary to popular opinion, the Church is in heaven before the seals are opened. I read your link and you seem to think that the seals are opened. Not the case. The 1st 6 seals line up with the Olivet Discourse. Has not happened yet.

Additionally the Jews are raptured at the 6th seal BEFORE the wrath of God which I have already shown.
The only Jews on earth during the wrath of God are those in the place of protection that was prepared for them. When Satan can't get to them he goes after her seed. The seed of the woman is the twelve tribes across the earth that keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 12
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

If you list what the trumpets do and then list what the bowls of wrath do and then lay them side by side you will see that they are not the same. The trumpets are the warning and are lighter in nature while the bowls are full on judgement.
Look closer at Revelation chapter 15, The jews are on the sea of glass before the angles with the seven last plagues, as in the bowls of wrath set out to complete their mission.

The Jews are not raptured in the sixth seal. That is where the 144000 Jews are given Gods Mark and sent to witness to the Jews under the law in the context of the old testament. When the age of grace ends every thing reverts back to the old. The time of the gentiles is complete and the old covenant comes back into play.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

COMMON ERROR 1 Rapture takes place in the twinkling of an eye. Everyone disappears instantly. (The "Left Behind" Theory)
NEW THEORY 1 The Change from mortal to immortal takes place in the twinkling of an eye. Nobody becomes invisible.

COMMON ERROR 2 "Hereafter" is after the church is gone.
NEW THEORY 2 Daniel's "Hereafter" began with the kingdom in which he lived (Babylon). Revelation: "Hereafter" is 1st century Rome.

COMMON ERROR 3 John is raptured into heaven after the church age.
NEW THEORY 3 John sees the arrival of Jesus into heaven after he rose from the dead around 32 A.D.

COMMON ERROR 4 24 Elders symbolically are the Church which has been raptured into heaven. (Song 2) proves Church as 24 elders.
NEW THEORY 4 24 Elders are angelic creatures who have worshipped God since creation. (Song 2) Cherubim sing this song.

COMMON ERROR 5 Antichrist is rider on the white horse.
NEW THEORY 5 Rider on the white horse is any leader who wants to rule the world (Nero, Hitler). Seal 4 limits death to 1/4 of the earth.

COMMON ERROR 6 "Tribulation Saints" (martyrs) die during 7 years of Tribulation. (After Church is raptured)
NEW THEORY 6 "Tribulation Saints" is a term made to fit a Common Theory. The martyrs pictured during the fifth seal died during the 1st century.

COMMON ERROR 7 The events of the sixth seal will occur near the beginning of the 7 years of great tribulation.
NEW THEORY 7 The six stories of chapters 6-19 all end when the throne of God shakes the earth and/or when Jesus returns.

These 7 common errors have prevented the church from finding a consensus interpretation for the Revelation.
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I am happy to discuss common errors/new theory individually or collectively.

Well you rnew theory doesn't even qualify as a hypothesis as they are riddled with private interpretations.

 

[The Light]

How exactly is the 5th seal the GT when you claim the 6th seal is before the GT?

Sorry bad wording. I meant that the 5th seal is the great tribulation and it is over before the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. We can see the exact same thing In Revelation 14. We see the great tribulation here.................

Revelation 14
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

And we see the coming of Jesus here which occurs at the sixth seal.

Revelation 14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

This happens BEFORE the wrath of God as we see here.............

Revelation 15
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Which is the same thing you see in Revelation 6.

Revelation 6
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

 

[ewq1938]

Sorry bad wording. I meant that the 5th seal is the great tribulation and it is over before the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal.

You are still ignoring the fact that the 5th seal speaks about a time before the deaths that happen in the trib. The 6th seal describes the second coming. There is no trib happening in the 5th or 6th seals. It is represented by another seal, the first seal opened.

 

[The Light]

If you list what the trumpets do and then list what the bowls of wrath do and then lay them side by side you will see that they are not the same.

Correct. They are not the same. They happen is the same timeframe. In other words, the first trumpet is blown and then a vial is poured out.

These are two separate visions about the same timeframe, "the wrath of God". Each trumpet and vial are about the same thing.

I found this link that does a good job of explaining it.

Trumpets and Vials

The trumpets are the warning and are lighter in nature while the bowls are full on judgement.

No. Both are Gods wrath. The trumpets are lighter however.

Look closer at Revelation chapter 15, The jews are on the sea of glass before the angles with the seven last plagues, as in the bowls of wrath set out to complete their mission.

Agreed. Those are the seven last plagues in THAT VISION. Think about it this way. Look at Revelation 11. It says the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms are the kingdoms of our Lord. That means Christ has returned, Armageddon is over and Christ is setting up His kingdom on earth.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

We get a confirmation of this in Revelation 10

Revelation 10
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

It is also the time of judgement............wrath is OVER.

Revelation 11
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Again. Judgement is happening and rewards are given. WRATH IS OVER at the 7th trumpet.

When you are reading Revelation 13 and 14 you are back in the SEALS. When you are reading Revelation 15 and 16 you are back in Gods wrath.

The Jews are not raptured in the sixth seal. That is where the 144000 Jews are given Gods Mark and sent to witness to the Jews under the law in the context of the old testament.

That's what it looks like, isn't it. Those Jews are marked with the seal of God. It looks like they are going through the wrath of God, sealed for protection. Then we get this verse to keep us on that incorrect conclusion.

Revelation 9
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

You have to use plain logic to get past this, just like you need plain logic to get past the statement that the bowls of wrath are the last plagues. That makes us incorrectly conclude that the trumpets happen before the bowls of wrath. Plain logic gets us past that incorrect assumption.

Even though the Jews are sealed in Revelation 7 we can use logic to prove that they are sealed earlier in the seals.

The fifth seal tells us that the great tribulation is about to happen. The great tribulation is over before the 6th seal. The sixth seal tells us Jesus has returned as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars.

Revelation 6
2 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

The word says Jesus returns at the 6th for the gathering from heaven and earth. It is the Jews across the earth, THE SEED OF THE WOMAN, that are raptured from the earth at the 6th seal. The tribulation is over and then the wrath of God begins. Only those in the place of protection, THE WOMAN, Israel and unbelievers are on earth during the wrath of God.

In Revelation 14 we see 144,000 redeemed from the earth. But the great tribulation has not happened yet because when you are reading Revelation 13 and 14 you are back in the seals.

Here is the great tribulation in Rev 14 which occurs during the 5th seal

Revelation 14
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Since we know the 144,000 were redeemed from the earth earlier in Revelation 14 we can LOGICALLY conclude that the have to be sealed before the fifth seal. In fact when Jesus comes at the 6th seal, they will already be in heaven and will return with the church from heaven for the gathering from heaven and earth.

Mark 13
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

 

[The Light]

You are still ignoring the fact that the 5th seal speaks about a time before the deaths that happen in the trib.

Again. I am not ignoring that. It tells you the great tribulation is about to happen. When Jesus returns at the 6th seal the great tribulation has already happened.

The 6th seal describes the second coming.

Exactly. BUT NOT THE SECOND ADVENT when Jesus sets His feet on the Mount of Olives.

The second coming when all eyes see the coming of the Lord happens at the 6th seal. It is also what happens in Matthew 24. IT IS NOT JESUS COMING TO SET UP HIS KINGDOM. It is Jesus coming for the gathering from heaven and earth.

Mark 13
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

This is why you see the great multitude and those that come out of great tribulation in Revelation 7

Revelation 7
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Revelation 7
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

This takes place before the wrath of God.

Here is the great multitude in heaven

Revelation 19

6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

The great multitude is in heaven during the wrath of God. They are at the marriage supper. Here are the armies of heaven going to the earth when Armageddon and the SECOND ADVENT will occur. Not the second coming, that takes place at the 6th seal BEFORE the wrath of God.

Revelation 19
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

There is no trib happening in the 5th or 6th seals. It is represented by another seal, the first seal opened.

I'm sorry, but that make no logical sense. The 1st is the false Christ.

 

[Traveler]

If you list what the trumpets do and then list what the bowls of wrath do and then lay them side by side you will see that they are not the same. The trumpets are the warning and are lighter in nature while the bowls are full on judgement.
Look closer at Revelation chapter 15, The jews are on the sea of glass before the angles with the seven last plagues, as in the bowls of wrath set out to complete their mission.

The Jews are not raptured in the sixth seal. That is where the 144000 Jews are given Gods Mark and sent to witness to the Jews under the law in the context of the old testament. When the age of grace ends every thing reverts back to the old. The time of the gentiles is complete and the old covenant comes back into play.

 

[ewq1938]

I'm sorry, but that make no logical sense. The 1st is the false Christ.

How does it not make sense that the false Christ is not coming at the same time as the trib? The first seal describes the trib. The 5th is about before-trib events, and the 6th is post-trib events.

 

[Traveler]

Like I stated before, you can take 20 well schooled scholars and no two will be in full agreement when it comes to Revelation.

 

[The Light]

Like I stated before, you can take 20 well schooled scholars and no two will be in full agreement when it comes to Revelation.

Agreed. There seems a reluctance to accept the written word of God and a total lack of simple logic. It seems few can make a logical conclusion based on what is written.

 

[The Light]

How does it not make sense that the false Christ is not coming at the same time as the trib? The first seal describes the trib. The 5th is about before-trib events, and the 6th is post-trib events.

The antichrist is the rider on the white horse so he obviously is around at the 1st seal.

The antichrist will not be alive when Jesus returns at the 6th seal.

 

[Traveler]

The antichrist is the rider on the white horse so he obviously is around at the 1st seal.

The antichrist will not be alive when Jesus returns at the 6th seal.

For the rider of the white horse to be the antichrist is presumption on your part.

The antichrist will be around right up to the point of the battle of Armageddon.

 

[ewq1938]

The antichrist is the rider on the white horse so he obviously is around at the 1st seal.

The antichrist will not be alive when Jesus returns at the 6th seal.

The AC does not die until the end of the second coming, at Armageddon. The 1st seal speaks of the AC conquering during the trib. None of that is actually happening when the seal is opened because the seals are prophecies.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

COMMON ERROR 1 Rapture takes place in the twinkling of an eye. Everyone disappears instantly. (The "Left Behind" Theory)

You get two things wrong, we do not just vanish, we die, if you took the time to read all of 1 Cor. 15 that would become very clear. The Spirit man is raised, not the flesh which can not enter heaven. Secondly, this rapture came from Jesus and Paul. Anyone who can not see it I see as a lightweight in prophecy.

COMMON ERROR 2 "Hereafter" is after the church is gone.

Th Hereafter is the 70th week, and the Church can be seen in heaven in Rev. 4:4, Rev. 5:9-10 and in Rev. 7:9-16. It means after the Church age, seen in Rev. 2-3. The number 7 = Divine Completion.

COMMON ERROR 4 24 Elders symbolically are the Church which has been raptured into heaven. (Song 2) proves Church as 24 elders.

Rev. 4:4 proves this, it common sense, READ IT, every promise made to the OVERCOMERS in Rev. 2:10 (a Crown of life), Rev. 3:5 (White Robes) and Rev. 3:21 (will sit at God's Throne) can all be seen in Rev. 4:4. The 24 Orders of the Priesthood can be seen in 1 Chronicles 24. Jesus calls us Kings & Priests in Rev. 1:6 and in Rev. 5:9-10 you just can't put it together, I have been called unto real prophecy 40 years Its obvious you haven't been called unto prophecy at all.

4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

You can't even put this simple stuff together, and I am supposed to buy into your wrong-think?

COMMON ERROR 5 Antichrist is rider on the white horse.

The Four Horses are taken out of Zechariah, just like Rev. 17 is taken out of Dan. 5. God Himself wrote the book of Revelation, John on copied the visions and uttering of angels. Its no wonder you can not grasp it, most can't, especially those not called by God unto prophecy. A White horse in history always stood for a man who conquered in folk lore. Here God used the White horse to show the Anti-Christ conquering, then a White horse to show in the end that Jesus will conquer, this goes right over your head it seems. God also showed the same A.C. on a Red Horse bringing war, on a Black horse bringing famine and on a Pale green horse bringing Sickness/Death and the Grave (Hades). Anyone who can't even understand the White horse should not be trying to teach anything about prophecy.

COMMON ERROR 6 "Tribulation Saints" (martyrs) die during 7 years of Tribulation. (After Church is raptured)

And that's what happens, how do you get everything wrong? Hmm, I wonder why.

COMMON ERROR 7 The events of the sixth seal will occur near the beginning of the 7 years of great tribulation.

There is no 7 years of the greatest ever troubles as you think of it, the 70th wee is troubles because in John 16:33 Jesus himself told us ALL TIME on earth is troubles. (Get it now? That means even the church age was great tribulation, just not the greatest ever which lasts 3.5 years or 1260 days, simple stuff). TBH, most do not understand the Seals only open up God's sealed up Wrath. The last seal is opened up over in Rev. 8 for a reason, God's wrath falls via the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact, which is Trumps 1-4. So, the 6th Seals is Jesus prophesying what will come when the 7th Seal is finally opened over in Rev. 8, and the first 5 seals is Jesus prophesying what the Anti-Christ will bring forth over the same 42 month period as God's wrath (he is a part of that wrath) when the 7th seal is opened. he 1.) Conquers for 42 months 2.) Brings Wars for 42 months 3.) His rule brings Famine for 42 months 4.) His rule will bring death/sickness for 42 months and finally 5.) He will kill the Gentiles who come to Christ for 42 months, the Jews who repent are protected by God Himself.

The truth is, you need to just leave prophesy all together. Just quit man.

 

[The Light]

For the rider of the white horse to be the antichrist is presumption on your part.

Not at all. Matthew 24 shows two false Christs. Revelation 13 shows a beast of the earth and a beast of the sea.

The antichrist will be around right up to the point of the battle of Armageddon.

Armageddon happens during the wrath of God. The Antichrist will be dead before the wrath of God begins.

 

[The Light]

The AC does not die until the end of the second coming, at Armageddon.

The second coming occurs at the 6th seal. The Antichrist will be dead before the wrath of God begins.

The 1st seal speaks of the AC conquering during the trib.

Yes it does.

None of that is actually happening when the seal is opened because the seals are prophecies.

This is incorrect. The first six seals are exactly the same thing that Jesus tells us happens during the tribulation. Armageddon happens during the wrath of God.

 

[ewq1938]

The second coming occurs at the 6th seal.

No. Nothing happened in the world when it was opened. Only John saw something about the future at that time.

The Antichrist will be dead before the wrath of God begins.

No the Ac is alive until the battle of Armageddon is over, and he is cast into the LOF.

 

[6 Stories]

Satan has spent much energy preparing the world for the disappearance of the Church. The immortal body will be caught up and disappear from this earth.

The video is now out on YouTube. There are 3 things to consider:
1 The resurrection. Bodies will come out of graves. See Matt 27:51-53. No change and no rapture are mentioned here.
2 The change. Bodies of both the dead that have come out of graves and bodies of the living will be made immortal in the twinkling of an eye. See Matt 17:1-5 The transfiguration happens in the twinkling of an eye. No resurrection and no rapture mentioned here. Also, there is no rapture in 1 Cor 15.
3. The rapture. Immortal bodies will visibly go up into heaven. Acts 1:9 People saw Jesus rise into heaven. Rev 11:12 People will see the 2 witnesses rise into heaven. This event does not take place in the twinkling of an eye.

"Hereafter" will be after the rapture of the Church

Consider the pattern of Daniel 2. In the vision of the 4 world empires that would exist before Jesus comes to rule the world, Daniel was told of events that would take place hereafter, just as John was told in the Revelation. Daniel's hereafter vision began with the kingdom of Babylon, which was already in existence. Compare Dan 2:29 with Rev 4:1.

Doesn't make sense.

John sees the slain Lamb in Rev 5. This is the moment in the 1st century that Jesus sprinkled his blood in heaven. This is what prepared heaven for mankind. John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." Before Jesus shed his blood in heaven, mankind could not enter. See Heb 9:11-28 for the full story.

The kings and priests of Revelation 5 is the Church in heaven. The 24 elders have crowns which shows that Jesus has come. The crowns are for Gods people as Revelation 3 shows.

Rev 5:
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The 4 beasts and the 24 elders sing this song about the slain Lamb, but at this point in the 1st century, mankind is not yet in heaven. This is the transitional moment that allows mankind to become kings and priests for our reign on earth during the millennial kingdom.

Most pre-trib equate the 24 elders to the church.

Antichrist is the rider on the white horse.

Antichrist will be a world conqueror after the type of Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, and Rome. These noisome beasts (Ez 14:21) had authority to put to death anyone anywhere, 100%. For the past 2000 years there have been many 'antichrists' who have wanted to conquer the world, but have had their authority to put people to death limited to 1/4 of the earth. The rider on the white horse pictures these limited antichrists (conquerors, beasts) who have caused war, famine and pestilence since the 1st century. Example - Hitler.

The 5th seal is the Great Tribulation. Most of the tribulation saints will be the Jews across the earth as the 144,000 first fruits from the twelve tribes' attests.

John is still picturing events of the 1st century. These martyrs, since the time that the Holy Spirit was sent, are what kept a world power from rising after Rome. Martyrs have also prevented another world power from arising for 2000 years. Example - Allies vs Axis powers.

The events of the 6th seal occur at the end of the great tribulation. The wrath of God begins when the 7th seal is opened starting with the 1st trumpet. Jesus returns at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars.

I agree that the earthquake of Rev 6:12 ends the great tribulation because immediately after this earthquake; the sun, moon, and stars are darkened as stated in Matt 24:29. The wrath of God is the period of time immediately after this earthquake. The wrath of God in the book of Revelation is always described as "the wrath of God." The 6 seals ends with the appearance of both the Throne of God and Jesus. This is the end of this story about Rev 1:7 " Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."

Rev 7:1 - Rev 8:5 is a totally new story that ends at the time of Rev 1:7. Rev 8:5 " And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake." Voices, thunderings, and lightnings are come from the throne of God - See Rev 4:5. When voices, thunderings, and lightnings are pictured together with an earthquake, it is because the throne of God has come to earth as pictured in the 6th seal.

When the armies of the 6th trumpet reach Jerusalem, the 3.5 years, 42 months, 1,260 days, time, times, and a half; of great tribulation will begin. After the period of great tribulation comes the period of God's wrath. Only the 7th trumpet shows the wrath of God, including the voices, thunderings, and lightnings; pictured together with an earthquake.

It matters not whether there is a consensus it only matters what is correct.

I couldn't agree with you more on this point!