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Yes many dont like the answer, do you?? like I said before , what will you say to Him when you see Him standing on the right hand of God.
Look God your beside yourself.
WaterSong
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You replied to the wrong person.
My remarks were to Jaybird who does not believe Jesus was God incarnate.
teamventure
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Well neither do I my post was to you.
God denied Himself on the Cross and we killed God, really, satan couldnt.
You missed the truth in Christ guess who is the truth its in your bible written for you to read.
WaterSong
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teamventure
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No I didnt. The truth in Christ has set me free.
It IS written in the Bible so why do you deny it?
WaterSong
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Jesus was God. However, he was fully human and fully divine. As he said, if he wasn't meant to die on the cross he could have called a legion of angels to his rescue.
Talk about converting the whole bunch right there on the spot!
Jesus died on the cross because it was a symbol behind the act of his grace offering salvation to the world. The scriptures said, cursed is he who hangs on a tree.
Jesus took the sins of the world upon himself on the cross. God cannot be killed. However, the flesh that people saw as a condemned Blasphemer could be. And those who followed and believed his teachings witnessed the truth in them when he, unlike anyone who had ever been crucified before, resurrected from death three days later. And walked about and continued his ministry for another 40 days.
That then fulfilled the whole of his teachings. That there is no second death for those who believe. That whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but shall have immortal life.
He preached it and then he proved it.
Jesus is the truth. The bible, well as you see, read it to suit your self, why ask the one who is the truth, when you can make it whatever you desire it to be. Teh JWs, mormans sda catholics all created diverse religions built on the bible, all lies, yet they claim there religion to have the truth, God is not teh author of confusion,
Divinty He may have as part of Him was form God, but He i snot the father and could never be, for God Himself would have to stand against Himself on that one, just because men demand He be God does not make it so,
And glad you understand that second death thing few do, just ask the SDA who would prefer judgemnt to the first resurection.
Provided you are talking about the real and living Jesus, the Jesus of the Bible.
The Jesus that you don't believe in, @mjrhealth.
@WaterSong but I think you missed the most important bit, death is complete and utter seperation from God, God cannot separate Himself from Him self.
Dont have to believe in Him when you know Him as one could but like you dont want to, you have your idol teh bible. as if it can save anyman.
He is, indeed, the Father (come in human flesh)...Isaiah 9:6.
To deny this you have to engage in eisegesis and change the wording of the kjv, not once, but twice.
Why not?
See Luke 1:37.
Jesus said that the scriptures are "they which testify of me." (John 5:39-40).
But you are unwilling to come to the Jesus of the holy scriptures in order that you might have life.
Dont have to do anything, God reveals to the foolish the base things of this world, not those who are wise in their own eyes. It says so right there in your bible. Too much study very little Jesus.
jaybird
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but when you speak for someone else by definition you are speaking for someone else.
but you didnt answer the question. thats what we call dodging.
the bible does not say it, you inserting your assumption into the text does not count, sorry.
if the bible clearly says it then why in the world did the church have to burn people alive for a thousand years to force them into believing? Jesus and the 12 didnt do that btw.
It also says, you read them because you dont believe Him and still refuse to go to Him so you can have life in Him. Because than you would have to toss self out the window and all your learning and wisdom and go back to primary school, and you dont want Him to tell you your wrong.
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