First you’d have to clarify (for yourself) what ‘beast’ & ‘image’ mean, or point to. Then the ‘mark on their foreheads or their hand’ will make sense, as will ’came to life’ & ‘the first resurrection’.
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To understand Resurrection(S), requires one to Know WHY there are Resurrections(S), and WHEN, and for WHO a Resurrection occurs.
Every earthly individual SHALL bodily die.
Every earthy individual SHALL be Judged according to WHAT they Believed at the moment of their Bodily Death.
Every earthly individual SHALL be Resurrected BODILY, to receive their Judgement.
The JUDGEMENT(S), are according to the Evidence written in Gods Books of Records.
The Evidence reveals Several things….
* The individual was naturally born
* The individuals specific beliefs at Bodily death.
* All works the individual did.
* IF the individuals soul was Saved, and WHEN
* IF the individuals spirit was Quickened, and when.
Beliefs ARE conditional considerations.
Meaning….Mindful beliefs carry no consideration….Heartful beliefs carry supreme consideration.
Beliefs are express conditions, with express results.
Heartful Belief IN God, on the day that body dies…..God shall SAVE, and raise that body in Glory…..First Resurrection…After Millennial Reign.
Heartful Confessed BELIEF IN God and IN Jesus lived, died, and God raised Him Up to resume Livings….on the day that body dies….God shall SAVE, and raise that body in Glory….First Resurrection….After Millennial reign.
Heartful Confessed BELIEF IN God, IN Jesus, IN Jesus IS the Christ, The Lord shall SAVE and raise that body in Glory….BEFORE First Resurrection.
First and Second Resurrection(S) are NOT LIMITED regarding Resurrection(S)….
Resurrection(S) of DEAD bodys have occurred Anciently,
(recorded IN Scripture); (1 Kings Chapter 17)
Historically (as recorded IN Scripture;
(John Chapter 11)
and modernly (as recorded in medical case journals, and papers and books of individuals)revealing their testimonies regarding their experience of being declared bodily dead, and then revived.
The First Resurrection Spoken of In Revelations….IS LITERALLY the Raising UP of the LAST REMAINING of ALL the SAVED who have not YET been Raised Up.
There IS Christ the Lord Jesus’ Resurrection…Calling UP His Church, His Bride TO Him in the Clouds. (1 Thes 4:16-17)
After Christ Jesus’ millennial reign, the rest of the Dead are Raised UP by God
(1Thes 4:14)…called the First Resurrection.
Which is the FIRST INSTANCE…ALL the SAVED SHALL be Gathered Together With and IN the Presence of Their God and SEE Him as He is…Spirit.
Rev 20:
[5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
To understand Resurrection(S), requires one to Know WHY there are Resurrections(S), and WHEN, and for WHO a Resurrection occurs.
Every earthly individual SHALL bodily die.
Every earthy individual SHALL be Judged according to WHAT they Believed at the moment of their Bodily Death.
Every earthly individual SHALL be Resurrected BODILY, to receive their Judgement.
The JUDGEMENT(S), are according to the Evidence written in Gods Books of Records.
The Evidence reveals Several things….
* The individual was naturally born
* The individuals specific beliefs at Bodily death.
* All works the individual did.
* IF the individuals soul was Saved, and WHEN
* IF the individuals spirit was Quickened, and when.
Beliefs ARE conditional considerations.
Meaning….Mindful beliefs carry no consideration….Heartful beliefs carry supreme consideration.
Beliefs are express conditions, with express results.
Heartful Belief IN God, on the day that body dies…..God shall SAVE, and raise that body in Glory…..First Resurrection…After Millennial Reign.
Heartful Confessed BELIEF IN God and IN Jesus lived, died, and God raised Him Up to resume Livings….on the day that body dies….God shall SAVE, and raise that body in Glory….First Resurrection….After Millennial reign.
Heartful Confessed BELIEF IN God, IN Jesus, IN Jesus IS the Christ, The Lord shall SAVE and raise that body in Glory….BEFORE First Resurrection.
First and Second Resurrection(S) are NOT LIMITED regarding Resurrection(S)….
Resurrection(S) of DEAD bodys have occurred Anciently,
(recorded IN Scripture); (1 Kings Chapter 17)
Historically (as recorded IN Scripture;
(John Chapter 11)
and modernly (as recorded in medical case journals, and papers and books of individuals)revealing their testimonies regarding their experience of being declared bodily dead, and then revived.
The First Resurrection Spoken of In Revelations….IS LITERALLY the Raising UP of the LAST REMAINING of ALL the SAVED who have not YET been Raised Up.
There IS Christ the Lord Jesus’ Resurrection…Calling UP His Church, His Bride TO Him in the Clouds. (1 Thes 4:16-17)
After Christ Jesus’ millennial reign, the rest of the Dead are Raised UP by God
(1Thes 4:14)…called the First Resurrection.
Which is the FIRST INSTANCE…ALL the SAVED SHALL be Gathered Together With and IN the Presence of Their God and SEE Him as He is…Spirit.
Rev 20:
[5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
GISMYS_7
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Correct Concept….suspect wording.
The Earth is without end.
As the Earth appears NOW, will be changed.
No more mountains, No more seas. No more death, diseases, wars, corruption, waste, sorrow.
Ronald Nolette
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Just 3 problems in your lengthy writing here.
The rapture occurs long before the resurrection described in Rev. 20. It happens before the tribulation 7 year period begins.
Believers have eternal security. Faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus is a one time act that saves forever.
Believers do not face teh great white throne judgment. We face the Bema judgment spoken of in Corinthians only.
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Your claim is "False" this earth will be "Dissolved" by fire to its very "Elements"
2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Many BELIEVERS will be LEFT BEHIND, BECAUSE a BODY MUST DIE Before it can RECEIVE Salvation.
And SOME will Chose to Believe, Confess their Belief DURING the Trib and bodily die, naturally or be killed. (Various methods)
Some Believers HAVE ALREADY GIVEN their BODY unto Death FOR the Lord God (crucified with Christ)….and HAVE NO appointment to be subject to the consequence of WRATH that will be prevalent during the Tribulation.
Other Believers WHO did not Accept the Lords OFFERING of Salvation Now, via being Crucified with Christ Jesus…..Will experience their Bodily Death During the Tribulation.
Ofcourse some shall experience, natural death as in old age, and murders, drugs, and diseases such as now and others from World Scale Chaos from Weather disturbances, (earthquakes, fires, etc.), some from starvation, many from wars.
OBSERVE the history of man created diseases, killing drugs, destruction of food sources, endless waste and the endless wars construed and conducted by men….(and the woes and sorrows that affects men here and there upon the Earth)…
AND THEN contemplate;
HOW MUCH MORE POWER…the Lamb, the Devil and God has to CAUSE Grand Scale World Destruction!
Uh Ya….Going THROUGH the tribulations Sent down from Heaven….will be horrific….
And NO, those IN Christ are NOT Appointed to Suffer those conditions.
Glory to God,
Taken
GISMYS_7
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The "catching up" IS the rapture!
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 NIV
Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be ""caught up"" together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words.
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Impossible. The rapture is complete and will not miss any believer. AFter the rapture, only marked non-believers will exist on the Earth and they will immediately suffer the wrath of God in the vials.
GISMYS_7
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Eph 3:
[21] Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
The EARTH is DRY LAND.
The EARTH’S , DRY LAND was DESTROYED by Water, causing ALL dry land to be wet.
The Water was assuaged, the Earth again became DRY, thus the Earth was restored.
The EARTHS Elements shall be burned with FIRE….trees, plants, minerals, oxygen, seas, etc. that are Necessary to Sustain a MORTAL MANS LIFE, shall be burned, dissolved, NO LONGER NECESSARY to Sustain the Life occupants of the Earth that SHALL BE IMMORTAL.
so what makes you think you have the correct theology with end times/rapture
IN Christ believers HAVE crucified their body with Christ Jesus.
IN God believers ONLY, IN Jesus believers ONLY….must physically give their body’s unto death.
Yes there will be Believers entering into the Tribulation Era and As well unbelievers who will become Believers and physically die in Belief, and Thus Saved.
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Ronald Nolette
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no. There is not one passage that even hints at this.
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"DISSOLVED"
2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
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GISMYS_7
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LOL!!! Read again very slowly===
Jesus will return for the believers that are looking for Him
So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save """those who are eagerly waiting for Him"""". Hebrews 9:28
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I assume you have scripture that describes that happening? I've read all the prophecies, gospels and Rev and have never seen anything like that written.
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