King James Version isn't as bad as some make out.
Scholars tend to agree the NASB is has the crown for the most accurate translation from the original text of Hebrew and Greek.
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Scholars tend to agree the NASB is has the crown for the most accurate translation from the original text of Hebrew and Greek.
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Hello Amazed,
Would also agree with you about the King James Version; it as the first bible started with in my search for Christ. It had a lot of knowledge of God with-in the context, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Would say anyone who has studied and know the King James Version, and you bought a New Living Translation and started in Matthew, and the rest of the Gospels. You will be able to read it much more easier especially from you already understand about Greek words.
It is an easy reading version which the reading level is about a 6th grade with paraphrase language. Though knowing what was before hand will help you either understand better possible, but also start to retain more because the words are easier to speak and to go over.
Sorry in-depth translation guys, I got the Joe Biden version of the bible:
Haha wow look at that bible! Funny post Devin
KJV was the first bible I was gifted as a child. I enjoy it.
The NET bible is said to be very good in its translation due to the bible scholars that worked in union to produce a version also closest to the original texts in both old and new testament.
Amazed that is interesting, knew someone else who said that the NET 1.2 or something was what he had used and he also had spoke good comments about the translation. That is really nice when they get more closer to the real text, it is also help to have come greek background of understanding when it comes to some words.
Believe it helps everyone expound on the word, and how it applies along with the context as well. There was a man at a church named Steve who gave me a huge concordance one day, and took it home with me and it was a very interesting tool. Though do not really use it; using biblehub.com helps to find Greek words a bit easier.
Have now a Thompson Chain NJKV bible, from 1997 - This bible has a phonebook in the back of it, and analysis of all of the books from Genesis, to Revelation. It has Character Studies from Moses, to Daniel, to Jesus. It has a list of every scripture reference to back up any type of topic that is taught in and from the bible it self, that allows the read themselves to do their own study about whatever type of topic they desire. They are expensive bibles but they are well worth the information you receive. Glad God, had a plan for Mr Thompson that Christ Jesus through Mr Thompson, helped created this bible that he had spent believe 33 years of his life to accomplish.
Believe it helps everyone expound on the word, and how it applies along with the context as well. There was a man at a church named Steve who gave me a huge concordance one day, and took it home with me and it was a very interesting tool. Though do not really use it; using biblehub.com helps to find Greek words a bit easier.
Have now a Thompson Chain NJKV bible, from 1997 - This bible has a phonebook in the back of it, and analysis of all of the books from Genesis, to Revelation. It has Character Studies from Moses, to Daniel, to Jesus. It has a list of every scripture reference to back up any type of topic that is taught in and from the bible it self, that allows the read themselves to do their own study about whatever type of topic they desire. They are expensive bibles but they are well worth the information you receive. Glad God, had a plan for Mr Thompson that Christ Jesus through Mr Thompson, helped created this bible that he had spent believe 33 years of his life to accomplish.
Wrangler
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I think people confuse literal for accuracy. I prefer thought translations, which translate whole sentences and even paragraphs not merely words.
Here's what I found about NET version.
Home - NET Bible
Thank you for the information about the Thompson Chain version. I've not heard of that one before.
I went to look for information and found this site. It has the bible available for free too.
The Thompson Chain Reference Study Bible (Online) - The Wise Shall Understand
That was his 127 year old family bible.
Biden sworn in on enormous 127-year-old family Bible
Sadly, he doesn't have a personal history that would indicate he reads it.
"And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts 22:16).
Already dealt with.p in post #40.
Per Acts 3:19, it’s the repenting that gets our sins forgiven, backed up by Acts 10, where Peter says those hearing him preach had been filled with the Holy Spirit, and so could then be water baptized, in Acts 10:44-48.
The Holy Spirit is not given to the unsaved, thus they were saved by faith, before water baptism.
Water baptism is the outward washing of the body that can be seen, that is symbolic of the inward washing of regeneration from the Holy Spirit, that can’t be seen.
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Thus water baptism is for the already saved, and is not done to get saved.
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It’s the calling on the name of the Lord that does the saving - but you’d know that if you’d read every scripture on salvation, such as Romans 10:13 that says WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD, shall BE SAVED.
Water baptism is for those saved by faith , not to get saved.
Absolutely not, it’s the repentance that remits sins, not water baptism, which is the outward washing of the body that can be seen, that is symbolic of the inward washing and regeneration by the Holy Spirit, that can’t be seen.
You have to look at all scriptures on a subject, not just the ones you like.
Per Acts 3:19, it’s the repenting that gets our sins forgiven in Acts 2, backed up by Acts 10, where Peter says those hearing him preach had been filled with the Holy Spirit, and so could then be water baptized, in Acts 10:44-48.
The Holy Spirit is not given to the unsaved, thus they were saved by faith, before water baptism.
Water baptism is the outward washing of the body that can be seen, that is symbolic of the inward washing of regeneration from the Holy Spirit, that can’t be seen.
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Thus water baptism is for the already saved, and is not done to get saved.
Per Acts 3:19, it’s the repenting that gets our sins forgiven, backed up by Acts 10, where Peter says those hearing him preach had been filled with the Holy Spirit, and so could then be water baptized, in Acts 10:44-48.
The Holy Spirit is not given to the unsaved, thus they were saved by faith, before water baptism.
Water baptism is the outward washing of the body that can be seen, that is symbolic of the inward washing of regeneration from the Holy Spirit, that can’t be seen.
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Thus water baptism is for the already saved, and is not done to get saved.
Anon Chr female
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To the OP and whoever agrees with the OP, please know that you are in a serious cult everybody knows as "Oneness Pentecostal." They do not teach biblical salvation at all. Nor biblical baptism. All of their doctrines are evil and sinful. They do not please, glorify, or honor God at all.
The only way you will find out is by looking it up, and being humble enough to repent to God for it, and, attend a biblical church.
Blessed are those who love God more than their cult, and fear God enough to find out if they're in a cult, and don't continue to twist the scriptures to their own damnation and the stumbling of others.
The only way you will find out is by looking it up, and being humble enough to repent to God for it, and, attend a biblical church.
Blessed are those who love God more than their cult, and fear God enough to find out if they're in a cult, and don't continue to twist the scriptures to their own damnation and the stumbling of others.
Grailhunter
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LOL Duly noted Anon does not like Pentecostals. Annotated as such.
Cult stuff...Your definition of cult please?
CadyandZoe
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You are the one making it into a ritual. By suggesting that one must be baptized in water, while hearing or pronouncing the magic words "in the name of the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit", you have made baptism into a pagan ritual. God will not save a person or grant that individual his favor unless that person performs the holy acts and says the holy words. Isn't that what you are saying?
From my perspective, each person whom God is saving has a different salvation story. Even if someone goes through a ritual, that person will need to deal with God in the privacy of his or her own thoughts. The problem with rituals is this. We don't actually know if the ritual worked. Even if a person were to stand in the baptismal pool and confess Jesus is Lord and hear the words "I baptize you in the name of the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit" and even if that person is pushed under the water, he or she doesn't actually know the result. Will God favor that act or not? Maybe, if the person was sincere and his request was genuine. But there is always doubt.
The overall concept is this. God doesn't care whether or not someone is baptized per se. God judges the heart of a person. So for instance, if someone confesses faith in Jesus today, but tomorrow he suffers a fatal car accident on the way to his baptism, this will not thwart God from granting him salvation. If a woman in Africa, confessing that God exists and that he is the rewarder of those who seek him, not ever having heard about Jesus or the gospel, won't keep God from saving her. God can save anyone he wants anytime he wants. He is not constrained by "conditions" we must meet.
Acts 2:38 is not the end of the matter; it is only the beginning. In another post I described the process of salvation as an arrow in flight on a trajectory toward the target. We don't judge an arrow according to the instantaneous position at any one point along the way. We judge the arrow according to the entire path. Is the arrow headed in the right direction or not? That is the question. Remember the very person who said, "be baptized" is the same person who said, "if these things are present and increasing . . ." 2 Peter 1:8
Since we all have different salvation stories; the salient question is this. What is the direction of the arrow?
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